FINAL FANTASY VII

FINAL FANTASY VII

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Vayne Apr 16, 2021 @ 5:12pm
FF need female protagonist
So FF16 is confirmed to have another male protagonist.... really? 16 FF and we only got 2 female protagonist? This is unfair
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Xengre Apr 16, 2021 @ 9:23pm 
FFX-2 has a female protag and honestly Celes is more of a MC than anyone else for the most part in FFVI, while Terra (not as good of a char imo) still has a fairly solid role. FFIX has Beatrix which is a incredible female supporting character, shame she doesn't get more screen time, and Dagger has some decent growth though I feel she is somewhat a weaker character in terms of story utilization. FFX also features Yuna which is honestly a dual story of Tidus and Yuna and she actually does okay as a character, esp on second run and beyond when you understand nuances in the story better. FFXIII's Lightning is apparently rather good but that entire trilogy is hit or miss depending on who you ask... Never played it, yet... one day I will..., so can't comment personally.

It would be nice if they had some more relevant and well done female characters. Check out Project Athia, aka now dubbed with its official title Forspoken iirc. It's main character is a female and that one looks like Square Enix is really going all out on.

If you want some other games with well done female chars, esp main female characters check out these:

Xenosaga - Shion is the MC in episode I with strong support from KOS-MOS. Focus shifts a bit from being centralized on her in episode II & III but she remains relevant and shifts more towards the entire group and KOS-MOS' story. Episode 1 was especially amazing but II & III are okay (suffer from development issues and reduction in story but still enjoyable).

Legendary Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Chapter 1 has two main chars one female and one male. Both are okay but Estelle is the main focus as this is ultimately her story. In episode I she shows a lot of growth as a newbie but is somewhat dependent as she first starts out on the male char and others guiding her and helping her grow as she stumbles. Episode II she becomes a much more independent and capable character and really comes into her own. I can't comment on III as I haven't gotten around to it, yet.

Shadow Hearts Covenant is a story about a male MC and a female MC. There are other characters in the cast, and the story leans a bit more towards the male MC as the true MC but the female really isn't far behind as a key character. What is unique in this is how they treat her role as more than just a female romantic interest, especially one of the greatest twists and handling of a female character at the end of the game any game has ever seen.

Ar Tonelico 1 & 2 - Imo, 2 is definitely superior to 1 though 1 is not bad. These games, contrary to all the ignorant copy pasta reviews that clearly haven't actually played the game and just looked up video gameplay and other reviews are not remotely ecchi/fan service. Their stories are actually quite serious, though it has good lighter moments as well. There are definitely "dating sim" elements, however, and tons of optional side quests/story expansion if you like that kind of thing but it adds some great value. The female cast in these games (even Cloche or w/e her name is that seems like a brat at first, ends up being my fav char in the entire franchise actually) are actually very well done with some of the absolute peak character depth and development of any JRPG. Never played 3, yet, but definitely will check it out one day. Honestly, surprisingly amazing series for JRPG fans.

Tales of Xilia has leading female char IIRC. Can't comment never played so look up that one if you want to see worth your interest.

Tales of Vesperia - Male MC but three strong supporting females. The purple hair girl is just a really good character, though I wish they did even more with her as she could have been even better imo. Pink hair girl I believed would have been obnoxious considering her initial type... she is not and she grows in the story appropriately. Pleasant surprise, though not my fav char. Orange hair girl great supporting char with excellent humor, too.

Tales of Berseria - apparently amazing main main char who is a woman and also for once takes the role of a villain. The gameplay and story are both very well received. I haven't played it, yet, but intend to at some point. I suggest checking out some reviews for yourself.

Tales of Abyss - Tear grants is not the main char but she is a strong supporting female with excellent development, good amount of relevance in the game, and her personality is superb. This is all bolstered by the fact she is arguably the best character in the game with bonkers support capability, solid offensive options, and can even play as a controlled character a bit into the game with her offensive assassin attacks and magic if you know what you are doing. Ros- whatever her name is is also a rather well done female character, a young woman, who proves surprisingly capable. She doesn't get near the story relevance of Tear but she is still a good supporting character.

Grandia (first game) - has a male main character and Leen a supporting, practically second main char. She is a good character and while the story isn't complex it is a fun ride with an interesting combat system. The game is of pretty good length, too, similar to Tales of games.

Parasite Eve - Aya is the main female character there. Enjoyable game with some interesting concepts. It isn't particularly long nor is the depth significant but it is worth checking out.

Legend of Legaia 2 - mute female supporting character is a female lead and an interesting twist in a few ways I wont spoil. The game is not a top tier JRPG but it is a solid length, plenty of extra stuff and an interesting combat system. Not a bad game and lesser known.
skydeka Apr 17, 2021 @ 12:10pm 
Don't like female protagonist. Is's ♥♥♥♥, like ff13. Can't associate me and hero.
DBZ_KAKAROT Apr 17, 2021 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Vayne:
So FF16 is confirmed to have another male protagonist.... really? 16 FF and we only got 2 female protagonist? This is unfair

Lets see FF6, FF9(Garnet), FFX-2, FFXI, FF12(Ashe), FF13, Lightning Returns, FFXIV... ain't you SJW's ever satisfied?

The best Final Fantasies are the ones with the male protagonists, so cope with it.
Vayne Apr 17, 2021 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:
Originally posted by Vayne:
So FF16 is confirmed to have another male protagonist.... really? 16 FF and we only got 2 female protagonist? This is unfair

Lets see FF6, FF9(Garnet), FFX-2, FFXI, FF12(Ashe), FF13, Lightning Returns, FFXIV... ain't you SJW's ever satisfied?

The best Final Fantasies are the ones with the male protagonists, so cope with it.
FF9 is zidane, X-2 isnt main entry, FF12 is vaan

So only 2 ff6 and 13

Did you ever play FF?
DBZ_KAKAROT Apr 17, 2021 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Vayne:
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:

Lets see FF6, FF9(Garnet), FFX-2, FFXI, FF12(Ashe), FF13, Lightning Returns, FFXIV... ain't you SJW's ever satisfied?

The best Final Fantasies are the ones with the male protagonists, so cope with it.
FF9 is zidane, X-2 isnt main entry, FF12 is vaan

So only 2 ff6 and 13

Did you ever play FF?

I played them all, you probably haven't because Garnet is a major character, same with 12, they might as well be protagonists for what I care.
DBZ_KAKAROT Apr 17, 2021 @ 3:23pm 
Damn I forgot FFXIII-2, how can I forget Lightning dumb sister.... :lunar2020stubbornhorse:
Vayne Apr 17, 2021 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:
Originally posted by Vayne:
FF9 is zidane, X-2 isnt main entry, FF12 is vaan

So only 2 ff6 and 13

Did you ever play FF?

I played them all, you probably haven't because Garnet is a major character, same with 12, they might as well be protagonists for what I care.

You are not the creator of the game genius

FF9 ZIDANE
FF12 VAAN
DBZ_KAKAROT Apr 17, 2021 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by Vayne:
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:

I played them all, you probably haven't because Garnet is a major character, same with 12, they might as well be protagonists for what I care.

You are not the creator of the game genius

FF9 ZIDANE
FF12 VAAN

Neither are you, that's why you made this begging sexist topic. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
Vayne Apr 17, 2021 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:
Originally posted by Vayne:

You are not the creator of the game genius

FF9 ZIDANE
FF12 VAAN

Neither are you, that's why you made this begging sexist topic. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Look up on google or wiki
シップマル Apr 18, 2021 @ 12:23am 
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:
Originally posted by Vayne:

You are not the creator of the game genius

FF9 ZIDANE
FF12 VAAN

Neither are you, that's why you made this begging sexist topic. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
FF IX protagonist is indeed Zidane, not Garnet. Same goes with FF XII, the protagonist is Vaan. Sure both Garnet and Ashe are important, major character, both they are not the main protagonist. Never is. And i don't think OP are sexist, OP simply wanting to have female main protagonist (still doesn't make it right for him to call the game as unfair though).

And to you OP, Some game are more focused on female character as their main (for example Neptunia series), and some more focused on male character. But none of them are being unfair with the gender, it just simply how they worked. And even the female character are not the main protagonist, they were still giving a big impact to the story in the FF. Nothing is unfair in here.
DBZ_KAKAROT Apr 18, 2021 @ 12:40am 
Originally posted by シップマル:
Originally posted by DBZ_KAKAROT:

Neither are you, that's why you made this begging sexist topic. :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
FF IX protagonist is indeed Zidane, not Garnet. Same goes with FF XII, the protagonist is Vaan. Sure both Garnet and Ashe are important, major character, both they are not the main protagonist. Never is. And i don't think OP are sexist, OP simply wanting to have female main protagonist (still doesn't make it right for him to call the game as unfair though).

Me thinks OP is a disgruntled feminist, make me change my mind. Also I never denied on who the protagonists are, it's obvious, but don't undermine the female roles in those games, Garnet is on the front cover of the steam home page for ♥♥♥♥ sake! :lunar2019laughingpig:
Last edited by DBZ_KAKAROT; Apr 18, 2021 @ 12:46am
Xengre Apr 18, 2021 @ 9:24am 
I gave a perfectly good list if you want to enjoy good female MC or even strong supporting female MCs. This argument I'm seeing is a little silly.
kakiss4 Apr 18, 2021 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Vayne:
So FF16 is confirmed to have another male protagonist.... really? 16 FF and we only got 2 female protagonist? This is unfair

Sorry, but this is just trolling.
We have so many important female Characters in Final Fantasy.
You are ignoring that the Games focus on the whole Group and give so much love to tell their Stories.
It is so evil ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a Game that isn't even out yet and also a Series that had leading and important female Characters since the 90s, taking the curve to Diversity, having also Characters as Barret and Sazh with a really nice Backstory, because they weren't implemented in the Sake of having them.

But yes, it is easier to ignore Facts to spread the own Ideology.
asnjas19 Apr 18, 2021 @ 2:59pm 
It doesnt need to be fair.

There is a lot of catagories of main characters that have never been a main char. This is not a problem.
Vince Apr 22, 2021 @ 8:34am 
If it's such a problem.....then create your own game.
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