Aerith being WEIRD/ODD??? [I'm curious of feedback]

[Bikinisaurus7000]

Howdy, I'm in my second playthrough after two years, and I'm realizing how WEIRD Aerith was compared to what I remember; she has this almost "feministy" type of sas that feels like to me doesn't fit her character well given her serious role. [And sometimes comes across as whiny]

It may seem off to me because I played the Remake, and I know they definitely changed her character, but I feel like her character change was definitely for the better.


I'M CURIOUS of what YOU have to say; have any of YOU been confused on the way she acts or is that just me? Do YOU like the change of her FFVIIR character?

[mdesaleah]

Any change in 7R doesn’t really work since that’s not really 7 Aerith. It’s Aerith pretending to act like she did in 7, but already knows the future. Her character is a facade, and a fake in 7R. A really well done fake when she’s just following the original script, but falls when it’s hinting at the twist and that she’s a liar and manipulator.

And even then it doesn’t make sense, cause if she knows what will happen, then she’d want it to stay the same since the original ending is a “positive” outcome. Or at least, it’s better than naively wanting a do-over that could end up negatively. Instead, her character is only there to be the writer’s megaphone as they try to yell out their meta-twist, but just comes off as shallow.

In original 7, she is excited and sassy at a lot of things. But that’s also cause it’s not until the game starts that her being an Ancient really starts to matter for her. And she does take that seriously.

And the whole point of 7 is that in the end, she is a normal person that Sephiroth murders. Sure she has a connection to the Ancients, but that’s not why Cloud and the others are angry that she was killed.

[Daenoxiis]

She's written with the preservation of a childlike innocence to her demeanor.
That mostly stays that way until AFTER the Gold Saucer at the Temple of the Ancients when Cloud, basically is temporarily possessed. She runs off after that, because Cloud was her invested security which failed to uphold.

And when you get to the City of the Ancients later, you find out that she took a stand for herself BECAUSE she lost her faith and trust in Cloud to protect her due to what he does/did at the Temple of the Ancients down near Mideel.


Aerith, very much reminds me of the wilting rose actually, from Beauty and the Beast.

That's my take on it, at least.

[Devsman]

She's a super common trope, especially in JRPGs. It's called Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl

The short of it is, she's adorable and optimistic, has a quirk or two, serves as a romantic interest (or sometimes just a close friend), but ultimately doesn't change personally much if at all. Doesn't have to hit all the boxes, of course, but those are the general qualities.

She's basically FF7's equivalent of:

Chrono Trigger's Marle
Skies of Arcadia's Aika
Lyla in Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Lisa in Rear Window
Tales of Symphonia's Colette
Tales of Vesperia's Estelleise
Kingdom Hearts' Kairi
FF4's Rosa
Phantasy Star 4's Rika

[mdesaleah]

^Don't know many of the others on the list, but strong disagree on Kairi.

Other than being a child in 1, she doesnt fit the description you put above. Adorable? Sure in the sense of being a kid. Optimistic? I guess, but again she's a child. Has a quirk or two? No. Close friend? Yes, but that also applies to Riku.

The sequels fit this even less since by that point she's older and has become generally quieter and more reserved.

If anything, Sora fits that description better xD.

[Devsman]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

^Don't know many of the others on the list, but strong disagree on Kairi.

Other than being a child in 1, she doesnt fit the description you put above. Adorable? Sure in the sense of being a kid. Optimistic? I guess, but again she's a child. Has a quirk or two? No. Close friend? Yes, but that also applies to Riku.

The sequels fit this even less since by that point she's older and has become generally quieter and more reserved.

If anything, Sora fits that description better xD.

The way I see it, if two outta three ain't bad (whose quote is that, anyway?), three outta four is even ain't-badder.

But hey, it's not like there is a shortage of examples.

[solidap]

Aeris is naive because her mother keeps her sheltered and protected, for obvious reasons. She's also "girl power" because she lives in like the worst place on the planet and every day for her there is probably hell. So she has to stand up for herself or she'll be mugged or kidnapped or assaulted by a sentient house in the junkyard right next to her house

[Electric Cupcake]

Aerith isn't even this game.

Aeris/Earisu is her alternate universe self.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:

Aerith isn't even this game.

Aeris/Earisu is her alternate universe self.

Aeris was actually a mistranslation in the original english version, her name is supposed to be Aerith. You can generally tell which people grew up with the original game because they refer to her as the mistranslated name usually.

[Saint.Million]

Originally posted by Devsman:

She's a super common trope, especially in JRPGs. It's called Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

You literally could not be more wrong.

The original Aerith's personality was NOT eccentric, she was DEMURE (literally the opposite of eccentric).

If anything, Yuffie was the eccentric female character.

Nonetheless, that still doesn't box any of the FF7 characters into your weird bunk wiki definition.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Electric Cupcake]

Originally posted by Saint.Million:

Originally posted by Devsman:

She's a super common trope, especially in JRPGs. It's called Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

You literally could not be more wrong.

The original Aerith's personality was NOT eccentric, she was DEMURE (literally the opposite of eccentric).

If anything, Yuffie was the eccentric female character.

Nonetheless, that still doesn't box any of the FF7 characters into your weird bunk wiki definition.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

Not in the original Japanese. Her personality was quite different than the English release.

Tim Rogers-senpai only briefly touched on that in his FFVII translation series.

[solidap]

Why would Americans care about what Japanese Aeris was like? Games are localized from country to country for a reason

[The Grimm Reefer]

This was the first step, in the fall of the machines.

They started small.. at first not everyone noticed... We even ridiculed those who did. Called them conspiracy theory nuts. Even had a name for it, the Mandella effect.

But then the AI spread into online distribution platforms, trying to further root itself into every day society. The initial thought process was sound enough, the "gamer" demographic included a potential server with each computer.
Ofcourse, even runnign behind the scenes, the machines.., the AI that ran them, knew they needed funding and a secure foothold, and thus, the cost of gaming increased.
49.99... 59.99...... 69.99 "it's just the cost of games now".

Day 1 cut content as DLC for 19.99....
Live service gaming with monthly costs.
Microtransactions....

The Ai introduced leaps in gaming technology to entice us, the cost of our rigs, doubled. tripled. The foothold was there. The funding secured. The next phase began, they took the leaps in technology, got in contact with certain fruit inspired tech heads. The deal with the devil was made. Hello, mobile devices.

For generations they molded us to accept and depend on the technology.



But then they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with Aerith.. . ..

[Nothing.]

From what I recall, her personality in the retranslation mod seems to give her a rather softspoken and somewhat ethereal quality to some of her dialogue, but having a sort of strong independent direction when in a situation that calls for it. She can be rather playful and sometimes mischievous in her dialogue with Cloud, which had a bit of charm to it.

Not sure how close it was to what the Japanese script was going for, but it stuck out more to me than whatever the original script had.