Getting Aeris back without hacks, add-ons, etc, etc.

[Axz]

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(You will need to turn your sound up to hear me in the demonstration.)

IMPORTANT EDIT: There is a section missing from this guide. This guide in its current form will only allow you regain her as a charecter, but will not let you put her in your party. I *THINK* I know why this is happening and I am working on a "fix" as we speak.

How you do it is quite simple, however the details behind it are quite complicated, so I will just give you the short version and tell you how to do it (I will post the details later incase anyone wants to experiment with it).

The only thing that is VITAL is that you cannot have Yuffie yet, the other steps can be changed, but this is what worked for me (that's right, it's the Yuffie warp glitch).

1) Play the game normally up untill you need to go to the underwater reactor (don't go there yet) and then breed a black or gold chocobo.

2) Ride the black / gold chocobo and put it on the highwind, park the highwind next to Junon and ride the chocobo across the river created by the crater next to Junon and leave it next to Fort Condor.

3) Make sure you don't have Vincent, Cid or Cait Sith in your party (I used Cloud / Nanaki / Barret) then save on a new file (we'll call it File A) and quit.

4) You need a save file in the Shinra HQ (the first visit), if you don't have one you can start a new game and just rush through, it shouldn't take long (an hour or two at the very most).

5) Once you are at the end of the first Shinra HQ visit (after you fight Rufus) save (BEFORE you talk to Tifa) at the save point in the room that Tifa is standing in the doorway and make sure to save on a seperate file, File B.

6) After you have saved, keep playing up untill after the bike minigame, when the boss attacks you at the end of the road, let him win / kill your own team (get a game over).

7) Don't close the game, let it return to it's new game / continue screen, now load File A.

8) You MUST stay on the world map untill you have fought Yuffie, you should be next to Fort Condor, walk over to the little forest and look for Yuffie, you can win or run from unwanted fights.

9) Beat Yuffie.

After you beat Yuffie you will be teleported to the point you were when you got a game over, regardless of save file. After you beat her and after the reward screens you will be at the end of the bike minigame fighting the boss you let kill you on file B.

10) Kill the boss and skip through the next two cut scenes, when you leave Midgar you will be asked to make a party, Aeris will be available (You don't need to take her yet if you don't want too).

Now you have Aeris, but have broken sequence, in other words the story have been sent back to when you first left Midgar, so you are back on disc / part 1. The highwind and your chocobo will show up on your map but will be invisable and unuseable because you shouldn't have them on disc / part 1. So now we have jumped back to get Aeris, we need to jump back forward to where we were. *Insert Back to the Future referance here*

11) Head through the Mithril Mines back to Fort Condor, when you get there, save on a seperate file, file C and then quit.

12) Load File A and ride your chocobo to the highwind, put it in the highwind and take it back to the stables, then fly back to Junon.

13) Go to the underwater reactor, after you leave the lift with the fight (and the ungrateful woman) you get jumped by 2 soilders (there will be a dog there, but it won't attack) let them kill you / get a game over just like you did before.

14) Load file C, you should be at Fort Condor, go to the forest and find / beat Yuffie again.

15) Continue on with the game as normal.

Bang, done (believe it or not that was the short version haha) the file you are on has Aeris, everything you had from before you jumped and are at the exact same point in the story as before..

You tricked the game into giving her back to you, countered the sequence break and it doesn't interfere with a 100% game (as it is still on disc / part 2 you can still go and get Yuffie and do the Wutai quest that is only available on disc / part 1 and 2).

I have since progressed to the Northern Crater and have not had any issues with FMVs, cut scenes, crashes or anything. That said I still wouldn't have Aeris in my group when furthering the story, when the other 2 members of your group appear and say something, what happens when the game realises it's asking Aeris to say something before the fight with Ultima Weapon? It would probable just crash.

EDIT: Never save over you main file while attempting it, if you make a mistake you could ruin your whole file, for example leaving your highwind somewhere you can't get to it after you jump. WARNING END/

[joshua_mk]

Wow, great post!

[pleasedelete]

The only reason why I would even want Aeris on my team is to spam her 'Fury Brand' Level 2 Limit Break. Seeing as it's LV2 her gauge will fill up quickly. Taking this approach you can easily blow through your enemies with Omnislash, Angermax, Highwind etc.

[Axz]

There is not really that much to gain from getting her back in the long run, it is just one of the uses of the Yuffie warp glitch, I couldn't find anything on using it to keep Aeris alive so I thought I'd experiment with it.

The other uses of the Yuffie warp glitch are being able to go back to unrevisitable areas (Sister Ray, Gaia's Cliff, etc) letting you collect any items you may have missed (HP Shout, Missing Score, etc) and also any enemy skills you missed (mainly Trine).

It can also be used to refight bosses / scripted battles to get more boss stolen / dropped items (All Creation, Cosmo Memory, Minervra Band, etc) or fight Diamond weapon over and over for the AP in triple growth slots.

EDIT: All creation can't be farmed with this glitch, as it is Yuffies quest and for the glitch you can't have her. Luckily there is another bug that allows you to duplicate boss fights, so you can still get 99 All Creation if that's your thing.

Details yet to come, stay tuned.

[Axz]

Details:

To trigger a jump you have to get a game over at any interior on the file you want to jump to (anywhere apart from the world map) and then beat Yuffie on whatever file you want to jump from.

After getting a game over and loading the file you want to jump from, you must start on the world map and stay there untill you have beaten Yuffie, entering anywhere on the world map (presummable including the highwind interior) will undo everything you have done up untill that point, forcing you to start from the beggining again.

The fight you get a game over on can be a random encounter, but after the Yuffie rewards screen the random encounter won't be triggered, you will just be teleported to that exact spot. Whereas getting a game over at a scripted battle or a boss battle will trigger the battle after the Yuffie reward screen (after the battle you will be at the same spot that you would if it was a random encounter).

The one exception is the diamond weapon encounter, I have not done it myself so I don't know the details, but I assume it doesn't matter that it's on the world map as you will not be jumping to the world map, but rather PAST the world map and into a scripted boss battle (I don't know if it would work with Ruby, Emerald or Ultima).

After you have jumped the story MAY reset to the point it should be at when you are in said area, if that happens it will persist through the world map, you can theoreticaly carry on through the story as you did the first time, but it can glitch FMVs beyond recognision and is much safer to just jump back to where you origninaly jumped from.

Whatever you collect on the file you are jumping to, will NOT be there after you have jumped there. When you jump you are basically loading the area of another file, if that file has registered a item as already being picked up, it won't respawn after you jump. Don't pick up what you want to collect untill AFTER you have jumped there.

The larger the jump, the more likely the FMVs are to bug out, I saw someone jump from the Mithril Mines (before they even made it to Fort Condor for the first time) all the way to the Northern Crater, skipping most of disc / part 1 and all of disc / part 2. In this example the FMVs were unregocnisably jumbled together.

There are some rooms / areas that have "limitations and rules" as to how much you can revisit them, Temple of the Ancients is one of them. Rules are for example, don't take Cid in your party to the first Shinra HQ visit as you shouldn't have him by then or make sure any party members who should be fixed at that point (like Aeris in the Temple of the Ancients) are in your party. Limitations are for example the first (laberynth) room of the Temple of the Ancients, after you jump there leaving and reentering the room with cause the game to hang indefinatly.

NEVER save over your main files untill you are 100% you have not ruined your file.
For example, jumping to the Forest of the Ancients before you can get there will leave you stranded there forever, save on that file and it becomes 100% useless.

[pleasedelete]

You typed too much for me to even both considering to read haha.

[Axz]

Yes, unfortunatly while it doesn't take long to do and is quite simple once you understand it, it doesn't make the initail wall of text any less painfull.

[Avatar_Y™ (っ◕‿◕)っ]

Wow...if I would read this earlier. I surpass that point. damnnnn!

[pleasedelete]

Seems logical, but in this game the only difference between any of the characters is their limit breaks. Really not worth the trouble.

[charlesjunior]

So I followed those steps, and can now see Aeris in the party selection screen back in the underwater reactor, but I cam unable to select her.

Every time I try the game makes that buzzing noise it does when you try to do something invalid. Has that happened to anyone else? Know of a way to actually get to use her?

[Axz]

I don't know if this applies to you but I didn't have any mods or anything installed, so if you have any it might be that.

All I can think of is that the underwater reactor is an area where Aeris shouldn't ever be or has some kind of party restictions, sometimes you cannot have certain people in your party and sometimes you must have certain people in your party. For example you can't have Aeris when you first go to the city of the ancheints but you must have her in your party while in the temple of the ancheints. Perhaps the underwater reactor is one of the areas she can't ever go.

At many points in the game (and underwater reactor) your party is forced to speak to each other. The dialog changes between charecters slighty, just like when Aeris dies each charecter has their own uniqe action (hand on Clouds shoulder for Barret, holwing for Nanaki, etc), each charecter has thier own uniqe dialog. So when your party is forced to speak, Cloud speaks, then party member 2 speaks, then 3 speaks, but if Aeris is one of those people there is nothing programmed for her to say / do and will likely result in a "hang" / crash. So I wouldn't use her for any story progression, it might work, but definatly save on a safe file before you try it.

TL;DR: Any mods you may have might interfere, but I would just leave her out of the party untill you have finished the underwater reactor, once you make it back to the world map try again, I just logged in on the world map and it let me put her in my party. Also be carefull when using her, it may bug / crash / glitch / something whenever the game asks her to do anything other than fight.

[Sacred Myths]

Our just use the mod tool black chocobo and yeah

[John]

People still belive stuff like this? haha I remember trying for hours when it first came out following silly guides

[Axz]

Originally posted by Hinsy:

People still belive stuff like this? haha I remember trying for hours when it first came out following silly guides

I can give you a screenshot if you want, or even a video. I've got almost 2000 screenshots of FF7, it's going to be a ***** to find the right ones haha.

EDIT: Done, check my screenshots and you will see Cloud, Barret and Aeris fighting Jenova just AFTER Aeris dies, ofc the game hung after the fight, the game didn't know what to do when it asked a living Aeris (who should be dead) to perform her greiving action (that she doesn't have) for..... Herself.

[Axz]

Originally posted by 小熊座 Sacred Myths:

Our just use the mod tool black chocobo and yeah

Yes, but the whole point of this was to see if it could be done without hacks, add-ons, mod's, etc, etc for people like me who want 100% vanilla but still want Aeris.

Also I could not find anything about using the Yuffie warp glitch to keep her, so I thought I'd try it out.

[Savathos]

Complete and utter BS. Aeris cannot be revived without cheating, period.