Barret is not black!

[twiggy]

so i was checking my characters in the game menu and i noticed barrets in-game portrait, and he actually looks like a dark skinned asian guy, not black.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/a/ac/Barret_PortraitNB.png/revision/latest?cb=20130203032221

notice how he has straight hair, slanted eyes, a small-ish pointed nose, and his head shape looks more asian-ish.

it makes sense that he would actually be asian instead of black, since the game is japanese. but i wonder why they straight up made him a black guy in the every other portrayal of him after ff7? what do you think?

[Zerasie]

Haha wtf is this thread, IQ 50. What a troll post

[twiggy]

exz1tar a écrit :

Haha wtf is this thread, IQ 50. What a troll post

me? i actually have a 3.6 gpa but thanks for showing yours

[xXìpèéïñpöølsgødXx]

ciaradesu a écrit :

exz1tar a écrit :

Haha wtf is this thread, IQ 50. What a troll post

me? i actually have a 3.6 gpa but thanks for showing yours

[DBZ_KAKAROT]

ciaradesu a écrit :

it makes sense that he would actually be asian instead of black, since the game is japanese.

Either you're extremely ignorant or you're an asian apologist, just because a game is made in japan doesn't mean the characters within are japanese! I heard this stupid reasoning before, trying to force this flawed logic to get people to see your way is extremely arrogant. That's like saying Liu Kang is white because the game was made in america. FF7 was made with westerners in mind in order to be a successful hit in the states. The characters are exactly what they look like and nothing more, Barret is black, Cloud is white, Yuffie is asian. To further prove this point, FFXV was changed with western settings because Japan didn't think the game would be successful in the states being primarly japanese like it was FF Versus XIII. So stop being an apologetic fool, and use common sense.

[twiggy]

i know not all the characters are asian, you can tell that cloud, aeris and tifa are not asian by their facial features. however, please explain how barrett is black? he has STRAIGHT HAIR, slanted eyes and his face, headshape, hairstyle and facial hair, all resemble a mongolian or some other similar kind of dark skinned asian.

[Kaldarasha]

Barrett isn't meant to be an asian. If you say to an asian artist he should create a western looking guy and he is doing it for the first time you get usally a very asian like character. The same way I would fail, if I should paint an asian character. If you have seen FFVII AC you will notice that every character you mentioned above are looking very asian/japanese like.

[twiggy]

Kaldarasha a écrit :

Barrett isn't meant to be an asian. If you say to an asian artist he should create a western looking guy and he is doing it for the first time you get usally a very asian like character. The same way I would fail, if I should paint an asian character. If you have seen FFVII AC you will notice that every character you mentioned above are looking very asian/japanese like.

please dont bring up the disgrace to the final fantasy 7 legacy that is advent children.

also its artists' job to familiarize themselves with other races physical attributes and appearances in order to make a comepelling piece of art. i think its pretty obvious to anyone that black people dont naturally have straight hair.
also the artist would be getting paid lots of money and have his job and career on the line in order to draw/design barrett as a proper black guy. its absurd that you think he accidentally or unknowingly drew him to look asian on all accounts.

[twiggy]

Sid2Vicious a écrit :

ciaradesu a écrit :

it makes sense that he would actually be asian instead of black, since the game is japanese.

Either you're extremely ignorant or you're an asian apologist, just because a game is made in japan doesn't mean the characters within are japanese! I heard this stupid reasoning before, trying to force this flawed logic to get people to see your way is extremely arrogant. That's like saying Liu Kang is white because the game was made in america. FF7 was made with westerners in mind in order to be a successful hit in the states. The characters are exactly what they look like and nothing more, Barret is black, Cloud is white, Yuffie is asian. To further prove this point, FFXV was changed with western settings because Japan didn't think the game would be successful in the states being primarly japanese like it was FF Versus XIII. So stop being an apologetic fool, and use common sense.

except Liu Kang is an asian name and the model in mk1 is an asian guy and he has continued to look and be asian in every subsequent mk game, movie, show, etc... you cant compare that to barret looking like a dark skinned asian guy in the in-game character artwork and his freaking in-game portrait, which you see every single time you look at him in the game menu, and having him look straight up like a black guy after every spin off after ff7.
you fail to realise that he looks asian in the detailed artwork, but you just assume hes a black guy cause he has brown skin, uses slang to talk, and looks like a black guy in the less detailed, in-game polygon chibi model. if anyone here is racist its people like you who assume someones race by their skin color and speech.

also youre wrong about ff7 being made with westerners in mind. japanese generally dont care about other audiences besides their own. want proof? ok, so explain why the english and other language translations were so bad for such a major game?

[DBZ_KAKAROT]

ciaradesu a écrit :

except Liu Kang is an asian name and the model in mk1 is an asian guy and he has continued to look and be asian in every subsequent mk game, movie, show, etc...

And Barret Wallace is a English name, your point? Oh you don't have one, because Barret continued to look black in every subsequent ff7 game, movie, remake, ect...

you cant compare that to barret looking like a dark skinned asian guy in the in-game character artwork and his freaking in-game portrait, which you see every single time you look at him in the game menu, and having him look straight up like a black guy after every spin off after ff7.
you fail to realise that he looks asian in the detailed artwork, but you just assume hes a black guy cause he has brown skin, uses slang to talk, and looks like a black guy in the less detailed, in-game polygon chibi model. if anyone here is racist its people like you who assume someones race by their skin color and speech.

Barret was created to look and speak like Mr. T. What are you surprised? or is he before your time? Some of his quotes are straight up racist and discriminating towards Cloud, such as "Get your spikey white ass over here" or "I'll go upside your spikey white head and bring you back to normal!". An asian guy wouldn't say stuff like that, that's what a black guy would say to a white guy.

also youre wrong about ff7 being made with westerners in mind. japanese generally dont care about other audiences besides their own. want proof? ok, so explain why the english and other language translations were so bad for such a major game?

You're totally clueless and have no idea what you're talking about. It's a fact that FF7 was created with westerns in mind, it's one of the many reasons why it was such phenomenon global hit, they deliberatly created a multicultural world to appeal to every race. And what's this? You state you have proof yet you want an explanation? lol ok. I'm starting to think FF7 was before your time or you weren't even born when it was released, at the time it was well known that translations weren't perfect, why do you think they redone Chrono Trigger script or other past FF translations as well? This isn't proof of anything other than in those days translation wasn't a big deal, heck they even called FFIV > FFII and FFVI > FFIII. In those days JRPGs weren't big hits in the states, FF7 was the first revolutionary breakthrough hit in the states that changed everything! And the multicultural aspect played a significant role towards that success.

[xXìpèéïñpöølsgødXx]

methinks op may like to be racist as a joke

[Kaldarasha]

What are you talking? I have as artist every freedom I want. Which culture does belongs Cloud to? Probably the moon race according to the look of his inhuman hair and no signs of facial hair. You also forget that Nomura needed to be minimalistic in his design because they needed port it over to 3D. And at that time they only started to understand what they are able to do. They simply hadn't the experience to use textures with the low memory of the PSX.

[The Jagji]

If you whatch the PS4 trailer, it is VERY VERY clear that he is ment to be black. lol

[Capybarasan]

ciaradesu a écrit :

but i wonder why they straight up made him a black guy in the every other portrayal of him after ff7

Hmmm, I wonder.

[The Role Player]

hes black as hell

[Mopey bloke]

If they really wanted the man to be Asian, why would they name him Barrett Wallace? I'm not sure how he looks any more Asian black than African black either. I pity you fools!