Is Aerith still "Aeris" in this version?

[PhantomReaper]

Or did they fix that little translation error when porting it over to Steam?

[Xengre]

It is Aeris in this version and, despite common misconception, Aeris is not a translation error. It has to do with the language not supporting "th" sound. While there is some very very minor related context, which is Square Enix' reason for eventually making Aerith the official translation in later materials Aeris was widely used in a lot of material prior and is the most appropriate translation of her name. The context is basically her relation to Earth, or aka the planet really as even Earth wouldn't be a proper term in that world which further invalidates its meaning. Additionally, it could also be pointed out Gaia or planet are more appropriate terms rather than Earth but the entire issue was simplified by intended context, aka it only mattered after a point of the game's release when it was swapped over once again reinforcing Aeris was not a incorrect translation.

[Electric Cupcake]

Her name is and has always been Earisu or Aerisu... baka.

[Visi]

It's a travesty that SE went with the lispy "Aerith" as the official name in the years following FFVII's release. "Aeris" was and always will be superior.

Originally posted by Xengre:

It is Aeris in this version and, despite common misconception, Aeris is not a translation error. It has to do with the language not supporting "th" sound. While there is some very very minor related context, which is Square Enix' reason for eventually making Aerith the official translation in later materials Aeris was widely used in a lot of material prior and is the most appropriate translation of her name. The context is basically her relation to Earth, or aka the planet really as even Earth wouldn't be a proper term in that world which further invalidates its meaning. Additionally, it could also be pointed out Gaia or planet are more appropriate terms rather than Earth but the entire issue was simplified by intended context, aka it only mattered after a point of the game's release when it was swapped over once again reinforcing Aeris was not a incorrect translation.

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[Xengre]

I also prefer Aeris, tbh. I think it sounds much prettier. I wish they offered both options in the remake. Aerith lisp definitely bugs me.

[NBOX21]

Originally posted by Xengre:

I also prefer Aeris, tbh. I think it sounds much prettier. I wish they offered both options in the remake. Aerith lisp definitely bugs me.

That's why in the original FF7, you got to choose the name of all the characters that join your party. Even if you don't like either Aeris or Aerith, you can call her whatever you want.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Aerith is an anagram of “I Earth”

In a slightly more serious note. They may have changed it because Aeris sounds like Eris, who is a Greek goddess of chaos and disorder. And that doesn’t really fit the character.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Aerith is an anagram of “I Earth”

In a slightly more serious note. They may have changed it because Aeris sounds like Eris, who is a Greek goddess of chaos and disorder. And that doesn’t really fit the character.

Yeah covered the anagram aspect above. That was the reason they ended up choosing it over Aeris in the long run, but not the reason it was initially used. Kinda funny since that planet isn't Earth, too, so even that context provokes issue.

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Aerith is an anagram of “I Earth”

In a slightly more serious note. They may have changed it because Aeris sounds like Eris, who is a Greek goddess of chaos and disorder. And that doesn’t really fit the character.

Yeah covered the anagram aspect above. That was the reason they ended up choosing it over Aeris in the long run, but not the reason it was initially used. Kinda funny since that planet isn't Earth, too, so even that context provokes issue.

Wait... that’s actually the reason they chose Aerith?

[Xengre]

Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Yeah covered the anagram aspect above. That was the reason they ended up choosing it over Aeris in the long run, but not the reason it was initially used. Kinda funny since that planet isn't Earth, too, so even that context provokes issue.

Wait... that’s actually the reason they chose Aerith?

Yup, because of her connection to the "planet" and thus the relation of Earisu. However, there is no "th" sound in Japanese and "su" typically translate to an 's' but can be "th" per context even if it isn't normally correct. Due to Aerith being a near-anagram to Earth they eventually made it the official even though that is, technically, a post release decision and actually incorrect entirely since 's' is the proper translation and that is not the planet Earth so that relation can't actually exist. The proper reference would be "planet" or at distance a loose use of "Gaia" and not "Earth". Therefore, in technicality Earth is completely incorrect and so that reference does not at all exist. However, there is extremely loose reference of "earth" as in the planet's material (soil, etc.) and there is a spell that uses that translation... but that isn't actually an accurate use of the term earth and also is a completely unrelated reference from "planet" or "Gaia" so it would still be incorrect. Basically, just a huge disaster of incorrect translation and usage resulted in it and it has become official, even though the reasoning is actually completely mistaken. Silly, but I'm sure most can understand the intended context even though it is wrong lol. Personally, I prefer Aeris so it is a shame we got this lisp sounding Aerith, imo.

[Peelsepuuppi]

It doesn't matter whether Aeris was a translation error or not. It's pretty much canonized as Aerith now. Also what is this lisp nonsense? Do you also pronounce Sephiroth as if you had a lisp?

[Xengre]

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

It doesn't matter whether Aeris was a translation error or not. It's pretty much canonized as Aerith now. Also what is this lisp nonsense? Do you also pronounce Sephiroth as if you had a lisp?

Sephiroth doesn't have the lisp Aerith does. As for the technical break down in the difference that would be better suited for someone better educated on such speech topics. I can tell you many spot the lisp with Aerith, however, and if you Google "aerith lisp" its an extremely prevalent topic. Yup, sadly Aerith was canonized. I do wish they gave us both options to select from. Oh well.

[darxide23]

You kids whine too much over a couple of letters. Just rename her. I named mine Pooppants and that's a superior name to the -s/-th argument and you can't tell me otherwise.

[Peelsepuuppi]

Originally posted by darxide23:

You kids whine too much over a couple of letters. Just rename her. I named mine Pooppants and that's a superior name to the -s/-th argument and you can't tell me otherwise.

Inferior Tifa.

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

It doesn't matter whether Aeris was a translation error or not. It's pretty much canonized as Aerith now. Also what is this lisp nonsense? Do you also pronounce Sephiroth as if you had a lisp?

Sephiroth doesn't have the lisp Aerith does. As for the technical break down in the difference that would be better suited for someone better educated on such speech topics. I can tell you many spot the lisp with Aerith, however, and if you Google "aerith lisp" its an extremely prevalent topic. Yup, sadly Aerith was canonized. I do wish they gave us both options to select from. Oh well.

That depends entirely on how you decide to pronounce it. And no it's not an extremely prevalent topic just your usual whining on your typical nerd websites like Gamefaqs.

[amathy]

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

That depends entirely on how you decide to pronounce it. And no it's not an extremely prevalent topic just your usual whining on your typical nerd websites like Gamefaqs.

it makes sense because i would assume sweaty nerds that would bother complaining about this would be the ones most likely to have a lisp

[Xengre]

Originally posted by ToveriJuri:

Originally posted by darxide23:

You kids whine too much over a couple of letters. Just rename her. I named mine Pooppants and that's a superior name to the -s/-th argument and you can't tell me otherwise.

Inferior Tifa.

Originally posted by Xengre:

Sephiroth doesn't have the lisp Aerith does. As for the technical break down in the difference that would be better suited for someone better educated on such speech topics. I can tell you many spot the lisp with Aerith, however, and if you Google "aerith lisp" its an extremely prevalent topic. Yup, sadly Aerith was canonized. I do wish they gave us both options to select from. Oh well.

That depends entirely on how you decide to pronounce it. And no it's not an extremely prevalent topic just your usual whining on your typical nerd websites like Gamefaqs.

If you Google: aerith lisp
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=kDe4Xo7dHdHKswX-irToAw&q=aerith+lisp&oq=aerith+lisp&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzICCAA6BQgAEIMBUK0PWNcbYO8daABwAHgAgAE6iAGIBJIBAjExmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpeg&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiO5eHu5qnpAhVR5awKHX4FDT0Q4dUDCAk&uact=5
You literally get hundreds of links going pages and pages of people on numerous sites talking about her lisp. In fact, only two of them appeared to be from Gamefaqs when I did a quick check out of hundreds. Honestly, a quick Google would have told you that what you said was wrong in even just 5 seconds...

Also, no there are no alternate ways to pronounce "Aerith", much less the tail end where the lisp occurs "th". The issue gets more complicated when you bring in the fact her original English translation was 's' at the end rather than "th" and the change from original to current is actually a genuine lisp, aka substituting "th" for 's'. This also brings forth issues with reverse lisp as well, another prevalent issue with her name.

Originally posted by darxide23:

You kids whine too much over a couple of letters. Just rename her. I named mine Pooppants and that's a superior name to the -s/-th argument and you can't tell me otherwise.

I always use the name Aeris in the original game, though in the remake you can't change the voice overs so it gets stuck with Aerith which doesn't sound as good to many.