Penalty for not using required Tyres

[DirectoR]

Hi,
i did the race at Austin in career mode today.
I was able to start the race on the Soft Tyres since I could make it through Q2 with them.
In the race i switched to the Super Soft but got disqualified going into the last lap for "not using the required tyres".
I'm wondering what I've done wrong, especially because the AI did the exact same strategy just reversed, starting on Super Soft and switching to Soft.

Any idea?

[M4rt1n93]

I have not done Austin in this game so im not sure about tires choises there, but maybe soft and medium was the mandatory tires? But dont know if the AI also did super soft and soft...

[76561198324649021]

You had to use one of the mandatory sets reserved for the race, in your case- White (medium).
{LINK REMOVED}http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/news/2016/07/11/pirelli-announces-compound-choices-and-mandatory-sets-for-the-2016-grand-prix-of-united-states/

[lolschrauber]

You used the correct COMPOUND, but not the correct SET.

It's a little confusing, as there was no such thing in the old games.

[DirectoR]

Originally posted by elpi:

You had to use one of the mandatory sets reserved for the race, in your case- White (medium).
http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/news/2016/07/11/pirelli-announces-compound-choices-and-mandatory-sets-for-the-2016-grand-prix-of-united-states/

But why was the AI able to do the same thing then (not using the Medium)?

[DirectoR]

Originally posted by lolschrauber:

You used the correct COMPOUND, but not the correct SET.

It's a little confusing, as there was no such thing in the old games.

How is this possible since the Q2 set would be mandatory to start the race with?

[cloister56]

You need to use one of the two tyres at the far right of your tyre selection for the weekend.. These are the mandatory sets. They can be of the same compound or different.
From what I've been able to test the game will not allow you to set up a strategy at the start of the race that will break the rule. I would assume that the engineer suggestions would not break it but I don't know for sure.
The easiest way is to think of your tyre allocation as tyre sets 1-13. Sets 12 and 13 are your mandatory tyres and must be used at some point during the race.
So in your race you and the AI both started on your Q2 tyres called them tyre set 9. The mandatory tyres must have included at least one soft set.
So when you pitted you went onto supersofts which were not a mandatory set, called them set 8. To fufil the rules you would need to pit again to use tyre set 12 or 13.
The AI pitted and went onto a mandatory set (12 or 13) so did not have to pit again.

[DirectoR]

Thanks to you guys, espacially to cloister. I got it now :)

[yusupov]

its not at alll freaking confusing u ovErly complicating things.

every race there is a required tire. if u dont use it, u lose it (the race)

[Paul]

Im haveing a bit of trouble with it also i basicly ignored the tyres (carrier mode on all easy) and was happy to win the first two races then came china and driveing rain and all i had was soft and med tyres and ended up 17Th im not sure why i couldnt equip wet or intermed tyers but i think it has something to do with all the precrice laps i did. If i use all my tyers on the practice (tyer managment) does that mean i have none for the race then?

[cloister56]

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Originally posted by yusupov:

its not at alll freaking confusing u ovErly complicating things.

every race there is a required tire. if u dont use it, u lose it (the race)

Well it's not quite that simple there are 2 tyres of which you must use one. The problems most people are running into are:

1) It is a new rule and I must admit I thought it was just the compound that was mandatory not a specific set of tyres.

2) It's not explained by the game or emphasised, so the first time you run into it is when you are about to break the rule. As this comes on the last few laps of the race it often ruins your race.

3) That when you change the tyre for your next stop in race there is no way to check if it is one of the mandatory tyres. A few people have said they have stopped for example a soft tyre (when a soft set was one of the mandatory tyres) but that the game did not fit the mandatory set. Thus they have had to stop again for another set of softs to get the mandatory set.
I've not run into this but it would seem to be a bit unfair and pretty easy to fix.

[cloister56]

Originally posted by Orboc:

Im haveing a bit of trouble with it also i basicly ignored the tyres (carrier mode on all easy) and was happy to win the first two races then came china and driveing rain and all i had was soft and med tyres and ended up 17Th im not sure why i couldnt equip wet or intermed tyers but i think it has something to do with all the precrice laps i did. If i use all my tyers on the practice (tyer managment) does that mean i have none for the race then?

Even if your practice was all wet there is a set of intermediates and full wets that you can't touch in practice and are reserved for the race so these should have been available for you. Not sure why you couldn't choose them. Did they not appear on the little pop up menu during the race as a green I and a blue W?
I would have thought your engineer would have suggested them too, did you see or hear any messages to change?

[Paul]

When im setting up the strategy befor the race i can only select soft or med. then when raceing the pit guy asks if i want to change the plan because its going to rain, well sure sounds great but what buttons do i need to push to change the plan (as im in the middel of a race here) i just ignore the guy i dont know how to change the plan of the fly pooring rain bald tires and you ask me to look at plans wtf? and if i do pit theres still no option for wet or inter ryers (maybe because i need to change the plan?) Idk.

[cloister56]

Depends on the controls you are using. For a xbox 360/One controller you can access a menu in the bottom right corner during the race by pressing any direction on the D-Pad.
You can then scroll through it using the d-pad up/down and change values with left/right.
The menu includes:

- Fuel Mix: Lean/Regular/Rich (with Rich being more fuel faster car and lean for when you need to save fuel)

- Forward Brake Bias: I'm not an expert, others can probably explain what this does. The explanation I had was:
Forward (higher percent) - Shorter stopping distances and the car will want to stay straight under braking.
Rear (lower percent) - Longer stopping distance but the car will turn more under braking.

- Differential - percentage (not really clear what effect this has, apparently it is for adjusting the power distribution between the rear tyres)

- Downforce - number higher means more downforce better cornering but more drag (I assume this relates to your front wing and will be only changed on pitting)

- Tyres - Here you can cycle between the available tyres to select the one for the next stop. Wet and intermediates should be on here too. What ever one is displayed will be the one you get when you next stop. (agreeing to change strategies when the engineer suggest will change it)

[Zantonny]

I would highly advice using a microphone and learning the voice commands. It is SO much easier than navigating menus while racing and the voice recognition is pretty perfect.