wifi 5g vs wifi 4g for fighting games?

[aki_finch]

I heard that 4 was more stable.

[👑THE STORM QUEEN👑]

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

BTW: Some wifi mesh systems cost thousands of dollars and are expensive in large homes.

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Maybe it's a social issue and not a technical issue. Can we dream of building local communities around Tekken and then have tournament style set ups walking distance from this Tekken Commune and we can forever banish the evil of lag?

[Supa]

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

"wifi", "smarthomes"

Even if you're using 4g or 5g you should still connect your PC to your router with an internet cable. Like I can understand if you can't get a good connection to the house where you live but the cable is just gonna cost you few gold and always be an improvement.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by ★Lame 50/50★:

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

BTW: Some wifi mesh systems cost thousands of dollars and are expensive in large homes.

P

Maybe it's a social issue and not a technical issue. Can we dream of building local communities around Tekken and then have tournament style set ups walking distance from this Tekken Commune and we can forever banish the evil of lag?

Good question. :-)

EDIT: I wonder if I might expand local comunities around 'all fg's and other online games'
If a group of people want to get even a friendly 'local' going for a few hours on a weekend, then is that faster to set that up with wifi?

If so, then how could that wifi be more stable?

But I'm also talking (following the OP) more about remote play wifi to lan, one to one, across that 'gamer cyber village' we call a town, or city.

Yes, I tend to agree that the community of gamers; the social aspect comes first, then the tech follows to support that gamer community, or any meaningful positive social community for that matter.

But still :P ......what would make wifi more stable!

I hear ya i think.

[👑THE STORM QUEEN👑]

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

Originally posted by ★Lame 50/50★:

Maybe it's a social issue and not a technical issue. Can we dream of building local communities around Tekken and then have tournament style set ups walking distance from this Tekken Commune and we can forever banish the evil of lag?

Good question. :-)

EDIT: I wonder if I might expand local comunities around 'all fg's and other online games'
If a group of people want to get even a friendly 'local' going for a few hours on a weekend, then is that faster to set that up with wifi?

If so, then how could that wifi be more stable?

But I'm also talking (following the OP) more about remote play wifi to lan, across that 'gamer cyber village' we call a town, or city.

Yes, community of gamers; the social aspect comes first, then tech to support that.

I hear ya i think.

HONESTLY? Depending on the median age of a countries population the likelihood of never enjoin retirement is undisputable

By massively lower living standards for the elderly and living in communal housing as opposed to independent living could be one of the ways we could financially balance an aging population

more over there is a likelihood these communes would be divided by gender would lead me to believe something like " tekken " would help ease the tension and stress of such communities by building in economically efficient services such as " gaming " to encourage the social lives of the residents of each commune

DISHONESTLY? We are very likely to die at work from the years 2050-2080

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfdo-mlU7k&ab_channel=DWNews

[C.D.J. Grazza]

I think we may be talking about two different things.
IDK.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Supa:

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

"wifi", "smarthomes"

Even if you're using 4g or 5g you should still connect your PC to your router with an internet cable. Like I can understand if you can't get a good connection to the house where you live but the cable is just gonna cost you few gold and always be an improvement.

Yes, true. 100 percent agree.
But if my friend thinks 4g or 5g with wifi alongside is faster due to advertising. And won't budge on that belief.

Rather than not play against said person using wifi to their router, would it not be workable to offer some technical suggestions for helping his/her wifi to run more reliably? (as they have control over their wifi setup, and router to some degree?)

Rather than just not play tekken with my friend on wifi?

Apologies, there is some confusion of terms for me also.
(Cause 4g, 5g exists from router to ISP, and wifi has different standards from PC to router)

IF NO:
1. Ethernet cable to router.
and no
2. fibre to ISP.

Point is, how to make wireless tech more reliable?!

It seems to me that OP asked a simple question, but there is not a simple answer for wireless.

[Damien]

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

This sounds like some good evidence based data above.So to clarify you're saying 5g is ok?
But of course cabled pipeline is best, but 5g is good in your experience? (or 6g)
And when you run this setup online for tekken in Finland, is the 25ms, stable enough?
Is there anything else you do to keep the wifi stable?
Do you allow/utilise wifi for online tournaments or are you talking about just ranked or casual play online?

When I played with my friend on a clear sky and he doesn't live that far from their support mast, the ping was rock solid 25ms. As soon as there was chance of rain and clouds it wen't up to 35-55ms region and added 1 delay. So everytime there's weather obstruction it takes a hit. There's no way to enforce it to be stronger but letting the next standard to be developed, thus mentioning 6G which is now in development but won't come available to consumers in years.

I'm oldskool and I would never recommend a LTE connection especially with fighting games that are fast paced games where commands are constantly traded between the connections. But if that's all you have then that's all you have. Back in the day 10ms in CS was good if you played behind 25ms con you were already loosing. If Tekken would have constant input delay and rollback helping it like MK11 this would be a non-issue. But it doesn't so the input delay that can go up to 4 frames can really mess up your game play if you aren't used to adapting to it.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Damien:

Originally posted by C Dojo: average internet - GGs:

This sounds like some good evidence based data above....snip

If Tekken would have constant input delay and rollback helping it like MK11 this would be a non-issue. But it doesn't so the input delay that can go up to 4 frames can really mess up your game play if you aren't used to adapting to it.

This.