I really hope the characters are actually balanced in Tekken 8

[Badman*Kazuya]

Im sick of absolute scrubs playing with Paul or Neegan or Akuma and just cheesing all day long. No way should a character be able to take off major damage with one punch. Paul may be a joke character but its unfortunately not very funny.

T8 at least seems to have toned down the damage.

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i hope in tk8, there won't be any true 50/50 anymore

but thats very slim chance to happen

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by =\P/=:

i hope in tk8, there won't be any true 50/50 anymore

but thats very slim chance to happen

Lows are already buffed in tk8 and they introduced more and more homing hs in the game. More aggression eqauls being in the face of your opponent often and being forced to guess especially after heat

[Hidebehind]

That feeling when a person complains about Paul for too much damage, and you still remember the game where the fight lasted until the first missed hit.
P.S. Dude, in your review you complain about Kazumi, one of the most honest characters in the game.

[=\[P]/=]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by =\P/=:

i hope in tk8, there won't be any true 50/50 anymore

but thats very slim chance to happen

Lows are already buffed in tk8 and they introduced more and more homing hs in the game. More aggression eqauls being in the face of your opponent often and being forced to guess especially after heat

yeah......thats sad

[Diamond Girls]

Balance does not exist in Tekke

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Balance does not exist in Tekke

To create truly balanced game it would need to have like 8 chars max with no one being a real counter to each other

[=\[P]/=]

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Balance does not exist in Tekke

actually, most fighting game since Street fighter 2 has balance issue

the game only balance if the game has only identical character

but for me, Tekken is near balance than other fighting games
the lowest tier character still has a chance to win major tournament

[Diamond Girls]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Balance does not exist in Tekke

To create truly balanced game it would need to have like 8 chars max with no one being a real counter to each other

If u want a balanced fighting game, give Asuka decent 10f punisher like other characters in the roster.

[Diamond Girls]

Originally posted by =\P/=:

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Balance does not exist in Tekke

actually, most fighting game since Street fighter 2 has balance issue

the game only balance if the game has only identical character

but for me, Tekken is near balance than other fighting games
the lowest tier character still has a chance to win major tournament

DOA is an example of balanced fighting game. Every character has a parry. But it's boring that way.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

To create truly balanced game it would need to have like 8 chars max with no one being a real counter to each other

If u want a balanced fighting game, give Asuka decent 10f punisher like other characters in the roster.

She was given that already

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

To create truly balanced game it would need to have like 8 chars max with no one being a real counter to each other

If u want a balanced fighting game, give Asuka decent 10f punisher like other characters in the roster.

Each character should have strengths and weaknesses.

Xiaoyu has low combo damage because if she gets you in her setups, you're gonna die. If she'd have higher combo damage she'd be a monster of a character.

Anna has bad punishments, arguably the worst in the game, and her frames if she guesses wrong on the mixups are bad, with all her options being punishable on block, especially if she didn't condition you as her mixup is from FC, unlike Scrubzuya's -2 AND forcing crouch mid normal hit launcher, but if things go her way, she has the 2nd highest comeback potential in the game, only behind Akuma.

Characters need weaknesses, and while it's true that for some characters, the few weaknesses they have don't make up for their strengths, I'm looking at you, employee of the year at Robery.inc, Criaglist Marfuk, that doesn't mean your character's weaknesses should be removed. You've seen what happened to Fucking Endangered Neanderthal Guy when they removed his low combo damage weakness.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

If u want a balanced fighting game, give Asuka decent 10f punisher like other characters in the roster.

Each character should have strengths and weaknesses.

Xiaoyu has low combo damage because if she gets you in her setups, you're gonna die. If she'd have higher combo damage she'd be a monster of a character.

Anna has bad punishments, arguably the worst in the game, and her frames if she guesses wrong on the mixups are bad, with all her options being punishable on block, especially if she didn't condition you as her mixup is from FC, unlike Scrubzuya's -2 AND forcing crouch mid normal hit launcher, but if things go her way, she has the 2nd highest comeback potential in the game, only behind Akuma.

Characters need weaknesses, and while it's true that for some characters, the few weaknesses they have don't make up for their strengths, I'm looking at you, employee of the year at Robery.inc, Criaglist Marfuk, that doesn't mean your character's weaknesses should be removed. You've seen what happened to Fucking Endangered Neanderthal Guy when they removed his low combo damage weakness.

And scrubzuya has to condition you to respect his mix up and learn wave dash or you can step him or poke him to death. If they left the old hellsweep buff however (version 3.20 or something like that) that would kill identity and make his 50/50 a real nightmare

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Each character should have strengths and weaknesses.

Xiaoyu has low combo damage because if she gets you in her setups, you're gonna die. If she'd have higher combo damage she'd be a monster of a character.

Anna has bad punishments, arguably the worst in the game, and her frames if she guesses wrong on the mixups are bad, with all her options being punishable on block, especially if she didn't condition you as her mixup is from FC, unlike Scrubzuya's -2 AND forcing crouch mid normal hit launcher, but if things go her way, she has the 2nd highest comeback potential in the game, only behind Akuma.

Characters need weaknesses, and while it's true that for some characters, the few weaknesses they have don't make up for their strengths, I'm looking at you, employee of the year at Robery.inc, Criaglist Marfuk, that doesn't mean your character's weaknesses should be removed. You've seen what happened to Fucking Endangered Neanderthal Guy when they removed his low combo damage weakness.

And scrubzuya has to condition you to respect his mix up and learn wave dash or you can step him or poke him to death. If they left the old hellsweep buff however (version 3.20 or something like that) that would kill identity and make his 50/50 a real nightmare

I don't really care about that, if he has frames, he can mix-up, that's a fact, because if you don't respect his frames, you die to d/f2 over and over.

Anna can't get you to respect her mix-up with frames, hell, even after her RD that puts her in FC at +5, unless you die to ws4, you've got no reason to respect and not press your own ws4, because if she tries to mix you up after it, she dies. If the player doesn't get you to respect the FC, the character even at +5 in FC can't get you to respect it because all you're taking is a poke. If Kazuya is at +5, d/f2 will get you to respect his frames so he can do his mix-up.

And meh, this is a stance I always held, no mid nh launcher should be safe, all should be at least -10, and from there you add more negative frames based on speed, evasion and other properties.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C.C. アヌビス:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

And scrubzuya has to condition you to respect his mix up and learn wave dash or you can step him or poke him to death. If they left the old hellsweep buff however (version 3.20 or something like that) that would kill identity and make his 50/50 a real nightmare

I don't really care about that, if he has frames, he can mix-up, that's a fact, because if you don't respect his frames, you die to d/f2 over and over.

Anna can't get you to respect her mix-up with frames, hell, even after her RD that puts her in FC at +5, unless you die to ws4, you've got no reason to respect and not press your own ws4, because if she tries to mix you up after it, she dies. If the player doesn't get you to respect the FC, the character even at +5 in FC can't get you to respect it because all you're taking is a poke. If Kazuya is at +5, d/f2 will get you to respect his frames so he can do his mix-up.

And meh, this is a stance I always held, no mid nh launcher should be safe, all should be at least -10, and from there you add more negative frames based on speed, evasion and other properties.

You can't seriously bring ff3 as first example of safe mid launchers. Jfsr is safe mid launch and faster or asuka 16f SAFE MID launcher 1+2. DF2 doesn't stop from pressure as it is to slow for things below -4 and it is -12. He can't mix up cause he doesn't have frames and get's killed if you know how to counter him with stepping and pressure (or if his wavu is trash/timing gets predictable)

[Diamond Girls]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

If u want a balanced fighting game, give Asuka decent 10f punisher like other characters in the roster.

She was given that already

1,3 still far from being decent 10f punisher.