Heihachi rant

[Ariakas6]

Ok so Heihachi doesn't have a block punisher as a launcher except ewgf. But pulling that off as block punishment is ♥♥♥♥ing hard. Other punishers are♥♥♥♥♥♥show like df/1,2 does 34 damage or so. He lacks panic, evasive moves. His counters are not like magic 4. You can't rely on them while pressured. His hellsweep is not good enough to get people's head. Only good low move is db2 which is way risky. He doesn't have any gimmicks. He is not a good first/second/third character but i ♥♥♥♥ing mained him. There you go /end rant.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Don't forget to hit confirm the last hit on 1,1,2 otherwise you are getting launched.

[xunlaiAgent]

He has evasion with db1+2. It's punishable but goes under some mids too.

[TequilaSunrise]

Originally posted by Salazar:

Originally posted by TequilaSunriseES:

Heihachi is one of the most oppresive characters when played well, his pressure can be insane.
If he had a hellsweep like DJ he would be broken.
How about 112 and df1, 2. You can stop pressure with those, for example. Also downjabs are good and every character has them.

Yeah i started to use mids. The pressure is real.
I recorded some matches if you want to cooment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_qqFsQEu4

Not bad, you play quite safe, but maybe thats kind of a problem too.(nothing ventured, nothing gained)
You're not giving the enemy a reason to duck, should try to incorporate crouch df4(low sweep from crouch move), that move is great, and the oki from it is savage, if they get up inmediately you can get a ff2 into a full juggle every time. Which makes them stay on the floor. And then you hit them in the floor anyway, so it's always more damage than just the move.
Situations where you can do it: after a db2, after landing a downjab, after landing a d4, or after blocking a non plus frame move that leaves you on crouch. And also just crouching and doing it sometimes. Then mix with mids to avoid being predictable too.

Also f4, you're not doing enough. It's plus frames on block and it serves to frustrate and annoy people into pressing buttons, then they get launched or counter hit. Also uf3, 4 or whatever is also plus on block.
Like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCa-dtMKSJ0

And practice electrics, a lot. Heihachi without a good execution on EWGF and sidestep EWGF isn't as menacing.
That's one of the reasons I wouldn't play a Mishima, because it requires far too much practice to be really good at them on a gamepad. Maybe if Kazumi played like DJ I would, but her style doesn't appeal to me and I prefer to play waifus.

It's good that you learn to read the opponent, bait whiffs, block and punish, but eventually you'll have to get good at using pressure a lot, because that's one of Hei's strongest points.
Btw, your backdash is pretty good, better than mine but I don't practice it that much, if ever.

[gigaturok]

Originally posted by Salazar:

Originally posted by TequilaSunriseES:

Heihachi is one of the most oppresive characters when played well, his pressure can be insane.
If he had a hellsweep like DJ he would be broken.
How about 112 and df1, 2. You can stop pressure with those, for example. Also downjabs are good and every character has them.

Yeah i started to use mids. The pressure is real.
I recorded some matches if you want to cooment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_qqFsQEu4

After watching, I can see on which stuff you might need to work with Heihachi(you may or may not take the advice because I would consider myself a scrub):

1. Electrics. Out of all the godfists you did, only 6 or 7 were electrics. They are just too good of a move to not master, especially if you have your opponent at the wall(Electric into df1 or another electric at the wall). And because most online players think it's safe to press a button after blocking a electric while thinking that you can't do the next one fast enough.

2. Run-ins. Instead of using the generic slash kick, I would go for ff2 or uf3,4 to catch people doing either inprecise side-steps or side-walking while getting a combo on hit.

3. Punch parry. After the season 2 buff to Raijin Stance, it is too good of a tool to not use, after finding out your opponents tendencies of course.

Movement is secondary in this case, as most players develop their movement by just playing the game while being aware of those concepts.

[Lord Pendragon]

Remember folks a Bear won the TWT and Kazumi won evo japan i can say with out a shadow of a doubt most of what people are saying about whos crap and whos not crap is absolute bull.

[Xero_Daxter]

Heihachi is fine the way he is. If they make his lows stronger and strong punishes then he would be OP. Remember... he is a pressure character. Kazuya gets the blessing of punish since he has no hopkick, can’t parry, and can’t poke (or at least poke well).

Truth be told... my greatest pleasure is punishing with Kazuya. I love his WS1,2. 1,1,2. B1,2. 🥰😍🥰😍

[Damokles]

Eh??? what about you spend more time with the char then write your rant ok

[Ariakas6]

Originally posted by Damokles:

Eh??? what about you spend more time with the char then write your rant ok

low effort bait. Try harder.

[Froz7y]

Originally posted by Salazar:

Originally posted by Midknight Battler:

If Gigas was a quarter good as Heiachi, i would be happy.

Gigas is fun. Heihachi is strong but boring. ♥♥♥♥ this i better switch him.

Gigas is a character for real men!!! No gimmics!

[Xero_Daxter]

Originally posted by Midknight Battler:

Originally posted by Salazar:

Gigas is fun. Heihachi is strong but boring. ♥♥♥♥ this i better switch him.

Gigas is a character for real men!!! No gimmics!

*Both Low HP*

*Gigas uses his 50/50 Rage Drive*

*Opponent uses Rage Art*

*Gigas Dies*

GG

[Eternal Wanderer]

Originally posted by Midknight Battler:

Originally posted by Salazar:

Gigas is fun. Heihachi is strong but boring. ♥♥♥♥ this i better switch him.

Gigas is a character for real men!!! No gimmics!

You know we wouldn't really call you names if you switched. Switch to Big Nibba. It won't make you a traitor to the friendly meathead. He will probably even mumble out moans of support for you.