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Most of people play copying pro players, sticking to their strategy, using only a few moves that " work " on characters. Why not to try to fully enjoy a game by doing some more risky stuff, trying to be more creative with the kit. Is that really fun just to spam openers, doing juggles all the time( juggle is one of the biggest mistakes in tekken series, seriously ) just playing like AI programmed to do few things. I refuse to play like that, even if that means i'm going to lose all online games. I rather actually enjoy a game, and full move list of a characters.
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pharmacist12 Dec 15, 2018 @ 5:33am 
Originally posted by azzra1:
Most of people play copying pro players, sticking to their strategy, using only a few moves that " work " on characters. Why not to try to fully enjoy a game by doing some more risky stuff, trying to be more creative with the kit. Is that really fun just to spam openers, doing juggles all the time( juggle is one of the biggest mistakes in tekken series, seriously ) just playing like AI programmed to do few things. I refuse to play like that, even if that means i'm going to lose all online games. I rather actually enjoy a game, and full move list of a characters.
Create lobby, and play with people that have the same mindset, problem solved.
Sirlion Dec 15, 2018 @ 5:38am 
You must be a special kind of loser. Not the offensive term directed at you personally mind you; I think you simply cant accept losses and try to justify them with this lolfest of a post.
Which is cool, just find casuals near you and play some lobbies. Spam stuff, have fun. Who cares.
Tshask Dec 15, 2018 @ 7:42am 
Yesterday I played against someone of a much higher rank and he was punishing everything I did. I had to quickly limit myself to using only safe moves to even have a chance.

Those matches didn't feel as fun, but also throwing out unsafe moves and consistently losing as a result would have been even less fun.

Does this mean Tekken becomes boring at higher skill levels? I'm not there yet so I don't know.
Alcratz Dec 15, 2018 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Tshask:
Yesterday I played against someone of a much higher rank and he was punishing everything I did. I had to quickly limit myself to using only safe moves to even have a chance.

Those matches didn't feel as fun, but also throwing out unsafe moves and consistently losing as a result would have been even less fun.

Does this mean Tekken becomes boring at higher skill levels? I'm not there yet so I don't know.

i got baited into this thread, and this is what i wanted to touch on

tekken is an absurdly complex game, and a lot of low level play is going to be dominated by exploiting the lack of matchup knowledge and fundamental skill and judgement of other players. thats just sort of the way it is, its annoying for sure, but you should be compelled to learn the game so that you DONT lose to stuff

when you start playing against better players, and theyre able to anticipate some of your moves and punish your unsafe stuff on reaction consistently, that means you need to start thinking more about what youre doing. instead of spamming and praying for stuff to hit, you have to become familiar with the nuances of playing the neutral so that you dont get hit, and actually making effective use of your moveset and understanding what certain moves are good for

its not necessarily that youre not using all of your moves, but you use them for their designed purpose and you have to play smartly and creatively to open the other player up to your more damage options. either that, or you use effective use of movement or you can make a read or something, and the other player hangs themselves by giving you opportunities to punish them for using unsafe moves or whiffing stuff

high level tekken is where the actual fun comes into play, because people know how to play matchups and not just get hit all the time. you actually have to think
Trax Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Dave Darko:
I enjoy playing against people who "fully experience" their characters, so I can triple perfect you all day long

i agree with this gentleman. keep "fully experiencing" your game, in the meantime i'll take those sweet ranked points from you for my own enjoyment bwahahaha

seriously, this is some strong scrubquotes shìt we have here. blaming people that play properly because you fail to do the same. goal of the game is to win and outplay your opponent, not to get as many style points as possible by performing useless but flashy combos. go play DMC if that is your goal, although i bet you would complain anyway because the game is too hard for you.

also, i really don't understand all this hatred for juggles. they are combos. do you get so mad when you get comboed in 2d fighting games? it's the same thing. or do you complain anyway, but in that case is "duuuh, this guy isn't letting me play, all he does is pressure me and spam combos, what a tryhard"?
User Dec 15, 2018 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by azzra1:
Most of people play copying pro players, sticking to their strategy, using only a few moves that " work " on characters. Why not to try to fully enjoy a game by doing some more risky stuff, trying to be more creative with the kit. Is that really fun just to spam openers, doing juggles all the time( juggle is one of the biggest mistakes in tekken series, seriously ) just playing like AI programmed to do few things. I refuse to play like that, even if that means i'm going to lose all online games. I rather actually enjoy a game, and full move list of a characters.

Well glad im not the only one who get tossed into the air every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ round and beaten to death like a total loser. But i love this game.
Thanks for commenting on thread. Some of you made a few good points, that kinda open my eyes on few things. I never truly got into online tekken, that may be part of the issue. It's like some of the players do same stuff all over again, which is not fun. I think that's my biggest issue. Where i try to approach game with mindset " i will try to do stuff that looks fun, is risky sometimes, and try not to repeat same moves " some people may be " i'm going to practice this set of moves, so i can master it ". I think i rushed into judging people based of few matches i just got recently. Maybe it was a bad luck i got this kinda of people, or maybe i was outmached so badly that it make me not enjoy the game. Allthough, thanks for sharing your opinion ( to people that actually made effort talking with sense, not those toxic idiots ).
Xero_Daxter Dec 15, 2018 @ 11:36am 
Winning isn’t everything, that’s true.

But losing is nothing.
User Dec 15, 2018 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Winning isn’t everything, that’s true.

But losing is nothing.
Winning definitely isnt everything. Experience is what matters to me.
TequilaSunrise Dec 15, 2018 @ 4:22pm 
If you work hard you can get to Tekken God Prime. Like the scrubby Alisa I fought today... she sure worked hard on her skills... on her save editing skills that is. xD
Zenkie Dec 15, 2018 @ 7:02pm 
Originally posted by azzra1:
Thanks for commenting on thread. Some of you made a few good points, that kinda open my eyes on few things. I never truly got into online tekken, that may be part of the issue. It's like some of the players do same stuff all over again, which is not fun. I think that's my biggest issue. Where i try to approach game with mindset " i will try to do stuff that looks fun, is risky sometimes, and try not to repeat same moves " some people may be " i'm going to practice this set of moves, so i can master it ". I think i rushed into judging people based of few matches i just got recently. Maybe it was a bad luck i got this kinda of people, or maybe i was outmached so badly that it make me not enjoy the game. Allthough, thanks for sharing your opinion ( to people that actually made effort talking with sense, not those toxic idiots ).


OK, great to know that you are approaching this with an open mind.

Now, for those opening spammers. When in a match, take note of the first move they do. Did they hit you with a quick low kick? Now you have an info on him. Since he hit you with a low on the first round, maybe he'll try it again. On the second round, try parrying it. There's going to be two outcomes:
First scenario, you "read" (guessed right) his opener and you parried his low. Give him the proper treatment and juggle, yes JUGGLE him all the way to the wall.
Second scenario, you guessed wrong and he did a mid-attack, or maybe even a mid launcher. Welcome to Tekken's mind games.

For juggles, believe me, most of the enjoyment is not in the juggles itself but from the starter and to the OKI-game that follows.

To juggle your opponent, you have to, quoting you, "do some risky stuff". Most launchers are risky and it's always a gamble (EXCEPT FOR EFFING BRYAN'S!). You get the satisfaction/enjoyment from the launch because you got rewarded for taking the risk. After you do the mandatory juggle combo and your opponent lands, both of you are now in the mind game. He will have to guess if you will do a low, mid, a plus-frame high or a throw. He can even opt, again quoting you, "to be more creative with the kit" and do a counter attack so you are not only thinking of attacking but also defending. This is where the enjoyment of Tekken comes from.

I hope you improve more in Tekken and enjoy the game.
Last edited by Zenkie; Dec 15, 2018 @ 7:04pm
Zenkie Dec 15, 2018 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Tshask:
Yesterday I played against someone of a much higher rank and he was punishing everything I did. I had to quickly limit myself to using only safe moves to even have a chance.

Those matches didn't feel as fun, but also throwing out unsafe moves and consistently losing as a result would have been even less fun.

Does this mean Tekken becomes boring at higher skill levels? I'm not there yet so I don't know.

Just wanted to share my experience.

Back in season 1, I encountered a Vanguard Kazuya. As a Brawler rank, I am used to an all out fight, minimum dash, almost no side-stepping but this guy is just turtling, waiting for me to attack and just punish me afterwards. I lost the first two matches 0 to 3. I was like, man, I can't break his defense. I wanted to launch him but nothing is getting through. He's making me go after him but it's either I get punished or he's ready when I'm in range.

On the third match, I decided to get a bit creative. I delayed some of my mix-ups, did only safe moves and poked him. When I'm ahead in life bar, I never approached him. I won two rounds this time but those two rounds felt like an eternity (also because the timer was down to 10 seconds). For me it was the first time I truly played Tekken. I was forced to rely on fundamentals to even stand a chance. Oh and those five rounds on the third match, not one launcher was involved. I left after that because I was so stressed but at the same time felt so happy even if I lost the match. As a Tekken player, those two matches were a "light bulb" moment for me. A few days after, I encountered this video. It made me so much better at the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRbYYtcEqrA
Wavekid Dec 15, 2018 @ 8:40pm 
Having no will to learn is way more pointless
Sirlion Dec 15, 2018 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Winning isn’t everything, that’s true.

But losing is nothing.


A great man once said "Death is nothing, but to live in defeat is to die every day".
I stand by this statement.
xunlaiAgent Dec 17, 2018 @ 9:19am 

Originally posted by azzra1:
Most of people play copying pro players, sticking to their strategy, using only a few moves that " work " on characters. Why not to try to fully enjoy a game by doing some more risky stuff, trying to be more creative with the kit. Is that really fun just to spam openers, doing juggles all the time( juggle is one of the biggest mistakes in tekken series, seriously ) just playing like AI programmed to do few things. I refuse to play like that, even if that means i'm going to lose all online games. I rather actually enjoy a game, and full move list of a characters.

Play a character that is supposed to be creative, e.g. xiaoyu or lei. Check out sodam from youtube and you will see that this game can be played like that. He will still of course use juggles, but it wont be the optimal damage one every time because he uses them for setups and tricks.
Last edited by xunlaiAgent; Dec 17, 2018 @ 9:26am
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