I can't win a single match

[Slayze ツ]

I learnt a combo for Bob, and some of his moves. watched a bunch of guides and tutorials, but I can't win a single match. The enemy just completely annihilates me, I don't even get a chance to attack because they are constantly bursting me down so I can't do a single thing. This is extremely discouraging, because I play against people who are the same rank as I am, 1st dan

[TequilaSunrise]

have you tried spamming b2, 2? His poke string. You can also finish the string for a juicy ch from time to time, and mix it up with throws. That simple strategy probably would destroy most low rankers lol.

Also don't forget his 3 hit string that deals high damage(starts with a headbutt into spin backfist and then punch).

Add some low hits to the mix also.

[Slayze ツ]

Originally posted by EnemigoPublico:

have you tried spamming b2, 2? His poke string. You can also finish the string for a juicy ch from time to time, and mix it up with throws. That simple strategy probably would destroy most low rankers lol.

Also don't forget his 3 hit string that deals high damage(starts with a headbutt into spin backfist and then punch).

Add some low hits to the mix also.

I mostly press random buttons because there is no way I can remember all those combos...
Also the enemy always gets like a 15 hit combo on, I only know a 5 hit combo. Another issue is that I constantly get launched, while if I get lucky I can get 1 launch in the whole match

[Renka]

Its because you dropped alisa </3

[Slayze ツ]

Originally posted by Renka:

Its because you dropped alisa </3

I guess I'll try her again cause I was doing okay with her

[Mike]

I mentioned in your first thread how daunting this game can be for new players and I also stated that you will lose A LOT when starting out. I know it may seem really hard at the beginner levels but after each match try to see why you lost against that character and go into practice mode to find ways to counter those moves.

It very rare in this game that one can just jump online and do well thats why practice is so important in Tekken. Don't get discouraged stick with it and you will see your self gradually get better, thats is with some dedication ;)

[Grottowalker]

don't be pressing random buttions.
you are new at the game so it will take some time to get the hang of any characters movelist...
but give your self some time in practise mode to get the hang of a few basics... things like
basic poke comobs - they are usually something like 1-1 / 2-2 / 2-1 / 2-2-1
what attacks happen when you are in while riseing state (when you are comming up from a crouch but are not fully standing yet your attacks are not the same as when you are standing

don't worry about the 10 hit combos at the end of the movelist, these should be used sparingly, if at all...
look up online something like 'top 15 moves for each character in tekken7' check out the ones for bob, it will give you a good understanding of what hes good at.

you don't need to have frame data memorized, but think of it this way

attacks have like 3 phases,
first phase is when the attack is just starting and it does not do dammage, like the begining of a kick
the second phase is the attack its self, some attacks have a longer attack phase, in that the attack does dammage for longer... like a slide kick will start being an attack pretty early on, then proceed to be an attack for most of the slide.
the third phase is the recovery, its how long it takes for the attack to finish, so you can do something else, typicaly blocking.


as a new player you have to understand that certan moves are more risky and ither have a really slow start up or a really slow recovery - ither of these can be intereupted with fast moves, or even with a meduim speed move[a launcher]

getting hit befor the start of a slow attack will pretty much stop you in your tracks, and having some one block a move with slow recovery will open you up to eating hits.


when attacking you want to use some of your fast attacks as pokes, typicaly some of your punch strings like 1,2,1 or something like that. and kinda get a feel for the rythem of your oppenent.
throwing out something risky when you think it could land...
back dashing to make your oppenent miss a risky attack then going in with a quick attack to punish the attack.

[The Nameless One 3:16]

Originally posted by Slayze ツ:

I learnt a combo for Bob, and some of his moves. watched a bunch of guides and tutorials, but I can't win a single match. The enemy just completely annihilates me, I don't even get a chance to attack because they are constantly bursting me down so I can't do a single thing. This is extremely discouraging, because I play against people who are the same rank as I am, 1st dan

This kind of a stuff happened to all of us. Don't be discouraged by loses. Keep playing and wins will come.

[Hunzh]

dont play bob thats my advice

[Grottowalker]

Originally posted by HuangDi:

dont play bob thats my advice

bob is a pretty solid char. even more so since most people don't playhim.
not alot of people have good matchup knowlage for bob

[Alcratz]

All the way up until maybe upper greens, winning games is just a matter of learning the basics of your own character. You honestly don't need to worry much about memorizing what the other player is doing and how to beat it, though it can make a difference. Just stick with a character, be it Bob or Alisa (though iirc Bob doesn't have very good non CH launchers, so he can be a bit of a struggle), and you'll get there eventually as you familiarize yourself with your character's moveset and basic strategies

Just work on memorizing the top 15 moves of your character (just Google tekken top 15 moves), an easy juggle or two, and a quick block punish. The block punish is the big thing, because lower level players spam a lot of random strings, and many of them are unsafe. use a safe 10f or 12f punish whenever you block a string, you'll get a lot of mileage and players that are used to mashing will fall apart. Even if a string you blocked is safe, this will keep them from pressuring you

A whiff punish with good range is also really useful, since people at lower levels will miss their moves a lot, and that's free damage if you can capitalize on it. If you can backdash, make a move whiff, and then whiff ones that move, your already better than a majority of the players at that level

[mingy]

Learn some frame data of the moves of Bob.

Knowing frame traps will easily get you to green ranks.

Be patient too.

[AGA | prinnyuber]

Dont always rely on the one combo. People have eagle eyes and will counter everything you do. You got to make a back up plan on the fly when things dont go your way.

[Eternal Wanderer]

You have got to memorize a good bunch of moves and combos (eventually almost all moves of your main character). There is no other way. You should gradually arrive at a point where you don't even need to think about pulling off the right move at the right time.

As others said, it might be a little daunting if you are new to Tekken.

The unfortunate thing is that you started playing at a time when most newbies have already given up. A lot of the players you stumble upon will be decent. And a certain number of them will be advanced players. I can see how you might feel hopeless.

But try to endure. Once you get the hang of Tekken, it will be fun and enjoyable. If I were you, I'd try to find friends to roll some local couch multiplayer. You can motivate each other and have a good time in the process.

[rat ☭]

i think for absolute beginners it helps to simplify a ton. don't even worry about combos until you understand when a launcher will work.

to start just work on properly using 4 moves:

1) jab (as a 'get off me' move when you are blocking them)

2) a 'keepout' move that you will use at a range where you think they will rush in

3) a long range move for you to get in with

4) a 3 hit string that will get you damage against mashers

these things are obviously not foolproof but you have to start extremely simple and work on understanding basic offensive and defensive principles as well as general game flow. add in layers a little at a time. fighting games are worth it, good luck!

[Sirlion]

Bob is one of the easiest and funniest characters in the roster. I literally got Grand Master just by doing the same 3 strings over and over, not even learned a single combo. He's aggressive and powerful. At 1st Dan the first thing you should learn rather than combos is to BLOCK and PUNISH. Once you get those two out of the way, the ladder becomes way less difficult to climb. You are mashing buttons by your own admission. Well, DONT. You need to remember his basic strings. 1,3,3 is fantastic for spacing. f12 keeps people out of your range \ discourages them from launchng you immediately. f34 makes you roll forward and b34 makes you roll backward, so you can avoid attacks more easily and get some breathing space. It is also a stance from which you can launch multiple attacks. db34, 4 is my favorite troll move because keeps people out of range and tricks them into thinking there's a mid.

Knowledge is power. No matter who you pick, you wont go anywhere if you dont practice.