New players should not be allowed to play Xiaoyu

[Dave]

Period. These new players are learning absolutely nothing but bad habits from this character. I've not seen a single Green Xiaoyu player who had any clue how to play the game, yet most of them have ~2000+ wins, no movement at all, horrible defense, and all they try to do is rely on Xiaoyu's gimmicks only to then cry that the game is too damn hard when it doesn't work. Lock this character until people reach red ranks or something.

The amount of idiotic Xiaoyu mains who can't even play any other character at this point yet still amass thousands of wins is beyond me. It's not even fun fighting these guys, even if they are a free victory.


Guys, my salt is already over. Stop commenting already.

[Unknown]

Meanwhile at SEA, new players actually gets queued up against TGPs...

[vindicta feet smeller]

Make xiaoyu a dlc character.

[Nyxs]

Dave の投稿を引用：

Period. These new players are learning absolutely nothing but bad habits from this character. I've not seen a single Green Xiaoyu player who had any clue how to play the game, yet most of them have ~2000+ wins, no movement at all, horrible defense, and all they try to do is rely on Xiaoyu's gimmicks only to then cry that the game is too damn hard when it doesn't work. Lock this character until people reach red ranks or something.

The amount of idiotic Xiaoyu mains who can't even play any other character at this point yet still amass thousands of wins is beyond me. It's not even fun fighting these guys, even if they are a free victory.

By that standard you have to lock all chars because I've not seen a single Green player who had any clue how to play the game, yet most of them have ~2000+ wins, no movement at all, horrible defense...

Ling players will use too much gimmicks.
Kazuya people will just spam electrics and unseeable low launchers randomly.
King players will be jumping all day and trying low sweeps.
...
Whatever the char it won't be great tekken... it's actually the point of the rank.
Green level players lack everything, movement, knowledge and so on.

[Eldril Sidewinder]

People should play a fighter they enjoy. Without doing that first, they will lack the dedication to play enough to get any wins in this game.

[Stryder]

you're drunk Dave, go home.

[Dave]

DatBoiYoshi の投稿を引用：

you're drunk Dave, go home.

no u

[Aldrakir]

a e s t h e t i c の投稿を引用：

2k+ wins on green rank explain everything about your desperate rant of how bad those players. If they are so easy for you, just pass them for next ranks section 4Head and play with someone from higher skill cap. Green ranks in general are terrible to watch, because in most scenarios you will see safe/unsafe launchers spam and limited predicted strings

Two things. First off. Dave is last time I remember Byakko or Seiryu with Gigas.

Second. The point he's making isn't that he's salty about losing to Xiayou. Granted Dave gets salty all the time.

It's that Xiayou players, and everyone else who plays non-traditional characters that rely on something like gimmicks, setups, etc etc, purely. Makes you a player with extremely bad habits, that doesn't really make you improve, develop fundamentals, or knowledge of when to attack or defend.

It makes you good at mind games if you can keep it up until you hit a high rank, sure. You get good at mind games and knowing how the hitboxes of your gimmicks and cheese works, that's it. Wanna know where that gets you? Nowhere. Eventually you have to learn fundamentals. And for the people who's relied on cheese, trolling, and gimmicks for several thousand games, that's not something that's likely to happen, and even if. They'll just get frustrated and return to relying on gimmicks and cheese.

Trust me. I've seen it happen.

I'm saying this as someone who's won several locals in Tag2 in Denmark. And one pretty big local in Denmark in Tekken 7.

Currently I am Fujin with Law, who is not even my main.

I hope that gives me some credibility as to what I am talking about.

Granted I don't think any character should be blocked. Definitely not. I would say that it's unfortunate some characters make some people never develop into better Tekken players.

[X]

i think if you found people like that you should've just add them and teach them i think...
me myself a xiaoyu player since tekken3
and u know, i dont know sh#t about xiaoyu and i play xiaoyu and julia just because i like them
and then there's 3 people who actually add me and teach me well (when tekken7 was just in arcade and some prople add me in steam too), how to counter and how to use aop and other moves in right time..

u know.. some people play tekken just for fun and refreshing not for competitive play, so we can't say they're wrong... even i found a player still a beginner kazuya with win more than 1000 and they can only do the damn hellsweep and electric and nothing else.. and a alisa player in genbu if i remember with a damn f#cking 25000 wins.. with spamming d3 and the chainsaws.. XD

[Tshask]

It's not limited to just Xiaoyu mains, in fact most people I saw stuck in green ranks were playing other characters.

But of course Dave is being Dave.

[Donutello]

Everyone plays the game their own way, so why even carrying about other peeps habits.

[Dave]

DunkinDonuts の投稿を引用：

Everyone plays the game their own way, so why even carrying about other peeps habits.

Because it irks me to no end how certain characters(e.g. Xiaoyu or Hwoarang) are holding back a lot of players from actually becoming half-decent, instead just teaching them bad habits for days.

[Kuriishi]

Dave の投稿を引用：

DunkinDonuts の投稿を引用：

Everyone plays the game their own way, so why even carrying about other peeps habits.

Because it irks me to no end how certain characters(e.g. Xiaoyu or Hwoarang) are holding back a lot of players from actually becoming half-decent, instead just teaching them bad habits for days.

Maybe they don't want to become half decent.
Maybe they get more enjoyment out of playing the game the way they do over how you play it O_o

[strike478]

Dave の投稿を引用：

Period. These new players are learning absolutely nothing but bad habits from this character. I've not seen a single Green Xiaoyu player who had any clue how to play the game, yet most of them have ~2000+ wins, no movement at all, horrible defense, and all they try to do is rely on Xiaoyu's gimmicks only to then cry that the game is too damn hard when it doesn't work. Lock this character until people reach red ranks or something.

The amount of idiotic Xiaoyu mains who can't even play any other character at this point yet still amass thousands of wins is beyond me. It's not even fun fighting these guys, even if they are a free victory.

Let peoples play who they want. PERIOD.

[fengmain46]

imo steve is a good character for a beginner to learn fundamentals, got myself from 3rd dan to byakku in under 170 wins

[Grizzled Grizzly]

Dave の投稿を引用：

Period. These new players are learning absolutely nothing but bad habits from this character. I've not seen a single Green Xiaoyu player who had any clue how to play the game, yet most of them have ~2000+ wins, no movement at all, horrible defense, and all they try to do is rely on Xiaoyu's gimmicks only to then cry that the game is too damn hard when it doesn't work. Lock this character until people reach red ranks or something.

The amount of idiotic Xiaoyu mains who can't even play any other character at this point yet still amass thousands of wins is beyond me. It's not even fun fighting these guys, even if they are a free victory.

Ok Mr. Authoritarian.