Kunimitsu is so unfair and cheesy

[VeniVidiVinoVici]

Shes one of these characters that you get destroyed by because you have no match up knowledge or too slow reaction. Just plain cancer

[Z i o ⚡]

That's too bad.

[Yosogoto]

Those things that you mentioned are actually problems that can happen against every character if you just aren't particularly good at the game

[VeniVidiVinoVici]

Originally posted by Oxygen Thief:

Those things that you mentioned are actually problems that can happen against every character if you just aren't particularly good at the game

Thats a horrible excuse

[Awsomeshocks1]

if you lab her as i did for about 10 or so hours (ps4) shes actually not very cheap with mix ups unlike characters like Lei/Xiouyu/Raven she is mostly setting herself up to get launched if you look at the right things. the 10 hours is only because i main this character it takes like at most an hour if you memorize what the problem moves look like.

[Mr. 101]

Just go to the character-specific discords and ask politely about tips to beat Kunimitsu with your main, there's plenty of friendly people to help you. You can find these through the Tekken subreddit.

[Sixxo5]

the whole cast is unfair and cheesy if you're a ♥♥♥♥♥. the character is new to you, eventually you'll know what to expect

[Dave]

Originally posted by I:P アヌビス:

And what's the problem?

There's a bunch of non-DLC characters that are pretty much in the same boat as Kunimitsu, but since she's new, she's more common than them, but that doesn't change it at all.

You got Eddy, Raven, the Bears, Chloe, Lili, Gigas, and others that will simply make you bend over if you don't know the match-up, but are quite easy if you do, and Kunimitsu is the exact same.

Crying that you can't beat a character without match-up knowledge just shows you are a scrub.

I wouldn't say Gigas is that matchup-dependant(at least for the one not playing him), considering he can't really mix you up that well.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by I:P アヌビス:

And what's the problem?

There's a bunch of non-DLC characters that are pretty much in the same boat as Kunimitsu, but since she's new, she's more common than them, but that doesn't change it at all.

You got Eddy, Raven, the Bears, Chloe, Lili, Gigas, and others that will simply make you bend over if you don't know the match-up, but are quite easy if you do, and Kunimitsu is the exact same.

Crying that you can't beat a character without match-up knowledge just shows you are a scrub.

I wouldn't say Gigas is that matchup-dependant(at least for the one not playing him), considering he can't really mix you up that well.

It's not only about mix-ups, but look at those + frame shennanigans you were doing against me, since I didn't knew those are + on block, I was trying to press buttons and get demolished. Considering Gigas has quite a few ways to enter Golem Stance, and most are + on block, if the opponent doesn't know which transition is + and which is -, they will either not punish or get crushed for pressing buttons.

While true that it does require the Gigas to know more than the opponent, "more" is relative.

[Dave]

Originally posted by I:P アヌビス:

Originally posted by Dave:

I wouldn't say Gigas is that matchup-dependant(at least for the one not playing him), considering he can't really mix you up that well.

It's not only about mix-ups, but look at those + frame shennanigans you were doing against me, since I didn't knew those are + on block, I was trying to press buttons and get demolished. Considering Gigas has quite a few ways to enter Golem Stance, and most are + on block, if the opponent doesn't know which transition is + and which is -, they will either not punish or get crushed for pressing buttons.

While true that it does require the Gigas to know more than the opponent, "more" is relative.

But then the question arises: Why were you pressing buttons in an unknown situation? Just quick rise and be ready to press 1+2.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by I:P アヌビス:

It's not only about mix-ups, but look at those + frame shennanigans you were doing against me, since I didn't knew those are + on block, I was trying to press buttons and get demolished. Considering Gigas has quite a few ways to enter Golem Stance, and most are + on block, if the opponent doesn't know which transition is + and which is -, they will either not punish or get crushed for pressing buttons.

While true that it does require the Gigas to know more than the opponent, "more" is relative.

But then the question arises: Why were you pressing buttons in an unknown situation? Just quick rise and be ready to press 1+2.

I blocked something, doing a jab after a blocking something, especially a stance transition does 90% beat out many options.

Look at Kunimitsu for example, regardless of what stance she wants to go in, IF you block the move that transitions into the stance, she's at least -8, or, in regards to KAT, you are still faster, so a 1,2 will beat every single option option from her stances.

Or Hwoarang's Flamingo transitions, while he's at +3, his fastest move is a jab at i13, so again, a 1,2 from you will stop his momentum by trading or outright beating him, sure, he has a high crush, but that one seems to be used almost exclusively when you know the opponent knows he can beat Flamingo and isn't afraid to trade either.

So after blocking something, a 1,2 will, most of the time be a good indicator if you can or can't press buttons, especially in stance transitions.

[Forza Piadina]

There are so many cheesy characters in this game that if you don't have a cheesy yourself you are ********.. With noctis you can play just spamming the same 2 pokes the whole match and it's ***** hard or almost impossible to sidestep that, if you make it wrong you can say goodbye +70(probably much more because he will get every time a wall combo on almost every stage) of your health bar. Noctis is considered the easiest character in game, now think that Kunimitsu is just an update version of noctis and you got your answer. It's worthless to complain about that because you will only receive replies by ********* Kuni players. Now think about fahkrmom, the hobbo wing chun and all the 2D ********* characters being still OP even after tons of nerfs.
Against these boring cheesy characters just lean steve and destroy them.

[Tshask]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by I:P アヌビス:

And what's the problem?

There's a bunch of non-DLC characters that are pretty much in the same boat as Kunimitsu, but since she's new, she's more common than them, but that doesn't change it at all.

You got Eddy, Raven, the Bears, Chloe, Lili, Gigas, and others that will simply make you bend over if you don't know the match-up, but are quite easy if you do, and Kunimitsu is the exact same.

Crying that you can't beat a character without match-up knowledge just shows you are a scrub.

I wouldn't say Gigas is that matchup-dependant(at least for the one not playing him), considering he can't really mix you up that well.

Yes he is. Whenever I fight Gigas I get destroyed, like last night, that Gigas player kept destroying me with BS, because I didn't understand what he was doing. So I kept getting launched (or thrown). Can't approach him because he has that safe long-range mid that he can keep spamming as much as he wants. I can't use AoP or RDS either because he can reach me with his long arms at any time.

You can't defeat Gigas without knowing the matchup. It's not possible.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Bibmo:

There are so many cheesy characters in this game that if you don't have a cheesy yourself you are ********.. With noctis you can play just spamming the same 2 pokes the whole match and it's ***** hard or almost impossible to sidestep that, if you make it wrong you can say goodbye +70(probably much more because he will get every time a wall combo on almost every stage) of your health bar. Noctis is considered the easiest character in game, now think that Kunimitsu is just an update version of noctis and you got your answer. It's worthless to complain about that because you will only receive replies by ********* Kuni players. Now think about fahkrmom, the hobbo wing chun and all the 2D ********* characters being still OP even after tons of nerfs.

You could... Idk... Lab those 2 moves that Noctis does and find a weakness?

I would say you should get good, but considering you're the guy that claims to have gotten 30 perfects in a row against "S+++++++ tier players", I would take any of your comments with a bag of salt.

[Dave]

Originally posted by Tshask:

Originally posted by Dave:

I wouldn't say Gigas is that matchup-dependant(at least for the one not playing him), considering he can't really mix you up that well.

Yes he is. Whenever I fight Gigas I get destroyed, like last night, that Gigas player kept destroying me with BS, because I didn't understand what he was doing. So I kept getting launched (or thrown). Can't approach him because he has that safe long-range mid that he can keep spamming as much as he wants. I can't use AoP or RDS either because he can reach me with his long arms at any time.

You can't defeat Gigas without knowing the matchup. It's not possible.

Oh please, you just let him destroy you, just like you let Anna destroy you.

[Dave]

Originally posted by Scumimitsu:

I dunno, how people keep losing to Dave. He is as smart as a box of crayons. :D

Eh, you're not wrong.