Leroy is severely underpowered

[babbty]

im outraged! They nerfed the coolest character in the game His stick now only does 35 damage when it can only be used once?! what a joke. Before his damage was fine, now I see no point using his stick when u can just 2,1,2,1 and get 61 damage.
His one-inch punch was also nerfed heavily, now it has 17 damage and fingertip range.
d2 has too many frames, also a dead move now.
but the worst of all is his hermit stance, it gives u no benefit, if u go from a combo into hermit u are at a frame disatvantage and will lose the next strike exchange.
And leroys db1, 1+2 (when enemy is lying down) does also too little damage
its already a hard move and can be dodged. And then df 2, is just ridiculus at -3 f. Other characters get -1 for the same uppercut on block.
His parry recovery frames are too high.
Oh yeah, and shall I add, that the nerf also ruined uf 3+4?
pretty funny that it is at -14f on block, while Law's 3+4 (which is basically the same move) is only at -12 and not launchable. He does wing chun hes supposed to have the fastest hands in the game. No character can endure being nerfed 3 times, not even Leroy.
d1+2 is complete joke now (-7 on block and does not launch on CH), 1,1,1+2+,1+2 is completely punishable now and very risky, b1+2 and his parries recover much longer this time, db,1 is no longer a high crush move, d3,2 only does 20 dmg now and is alot easier to punish, pimp cane does a fraction of the damage it used to do, and even more nerfs that I wasn't able to mention.
here more criticism about Leroys nerfs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS4YLmBfJfA&t=362s

[🔞𝕂𝔸𝕋𝔸ℕ𝔸🔞]

引用自 I'll make u hate the game：

im outraged! They nerfed the coolest character in the game His stick now only does 35 damage when it can only be used once?! what a joke. Before his damage was fine, now I see no point using his stick when u can just 2,1,2,1 and get 61 damage.
His one-inch punch was also nerfed heavily, now it has 17 damage and fingertip range.
d2 has too many frames, also a dead move now.
but the worst of all is his hermit stance, it gives u no benefit, if u go from a combo into hermit u are at a frame disatvantage and will lose the next strike exchange.
And leroys db1, 1+2 (when enemy is lying down) does also too little damage
its already a hard move and can be dodged. And then df 2, is just ridiculus at -3 f. Other characters get -1 for the same uppercut on block.
His parry recovery frames are too high.
Oh yeah, and shall I add, that the nerf also ruined uf 3+4?
pretty funny that it is at -14f on block, while Law's 3+4 (which is basically the same move) is only at -12 and not launchable. He does wing chun hes supposed to have the fastest hands in the game. No character can endure being nerfed 3 times, not even Leroy.
d1+2 is complete joke now (-7 on block and does not launch on CH), 1,1,1+2+,1+2 is completely punishable now and very risky, b1+2 and his parries recover much longer this time, db,1 is no longer a high crush move, d3,2 only does 20 dmg now and is alot easier to punish, pimp cane does a fraction of the damage it used to do, and even more nerfs that I wasn't able to mention.
here more criticism about Leroys nerfs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS4YLmBfJfA&t=362s

1. if thats u talking ? solution stop beeing a virgin :)
2. Leroy needs massive buss, so strong they delete him out of the game, like the guy that opens this thread should get his internet deleted (should call his mom)
3. WOAAAAW 5head funny.

[F_F]

Aight. So you think Leroy is underpowered. Lets compare his moves with some similar moves from other character.

Leroy's orbital is the fastest in the game and launch on normal hit. Ling has an orbital with the same frames but it only launches on CH.

Leroy can parry EVERYTHING. Ragearts, ragedrives, elbows, swords, fireballs etc. The only other character that can parry ragearts is Geese, and only Jin and Maven can parry swords of other characters.

Leroys Hellsweep is homing with good range. The closest hellsweep to him is Leo, but hers have bad range.

You also cried about his staff. his 35 damage launcher staff that acts like a second ragedrive and is safe on block.

Also. Hopkick is better than orbital? WTF are you smoking. Hopkick's are generally used for launch punishing and are unsafe on block. most are -13f on block and some are even -15f (such as Lucky Chloe) Hopkicks startup frames vary between 15 and 16 frames.

Orbitals are safe on block and launches on natural hit for the most part. Their startup frames vary from 23f to 29f. They are used to fish for opponent doing lows or dashing in.

Lastly Leroys stance autoparry lows, and It's one of the most oppressive stances in the game. If you think Leroy is bad you are probably not blocking at all.

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I wouldn't say leory is underpowered or overpowered.
The only part that makes him "powerful" is how little effort he is

[Pasta]

can we go to 900+ comments like the previous leroy thread?

[Pasta]

I say the only way to legit nerf characters like Leroy and Fahkumram is to restore movement back as it was in previous Tekken titles.

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引用自 Blind Guy：

I say the only way to legit nerf characters like Leroy and Fahkumram is to restore movement back as it was in previous Tekken titles.

Look at this tekken 5 fanboy

[babbty]

引用自 F_F：

Aight. So you think Leroy is underpowered. Lets compare his moves with some similar moves from other character.

Leroy's orbital is the fastest in the game and launch on normal hit. Ling has an orbital with the same frames but it only launches on CH.

Leroy can parry EVERYTHING. Ragearts, ragedrives, elbows, swords, fireballs etc. The only other character that can parry ragearts is Geese, and only Jin and Maven can parry swords of other characters.

Leroys Hellsweep is homing with good range. The closest hellsweep to him is Leo, but hers have bad range.

You also cried about his staff. his 35 damage launcher staff that acts like a second ragedrive and is safe on block.

Also. Hopkick is better than orbital? WTF are you smoking. Hopkick's are generally used for launch punishing and are unsafe on block. most are -13f on block and some are even -15f (such as Lucky Chloe) Hopkicks startup frames vary between 15 and 16 frames.

Orbitals are safe on block and launches on natural hit for the most part. Their startup frames vary from 23f to 29f. They are used to fish for opponent doing lows or dashing in.

Lastly Leroys stance autoparry lows, and It's one of the most oppressive stances in the game. If you think Leroy is bad you are probably not blocking at all.

Hopkick crushes jabs.
Leroy doesnt low parry ANYTHING because u dont stand still in hermit and wait for enemy to attack.
Hellsweep doesnt end in juggling combo.
Leroys parry is trash, im sorry to disappoint u, but it is what it is,.

[F_F]

引用自 Ryoda：

引用自 I'll make u hate the game：

Hopkick crushes jabs.
Leroy doesnt low parry ANYTHING because u dont stand still in hermit and wait for enemy to attack.
Hellsweep doesnt end in juggling combo.
Leroys parry is trash, im sorry to disappoint u, but it is what it is,.

And orbital crushes mids.
Despite the obvious nature of that stance, he's still one of the only people that can parry weapon lows.
And of course he can low parry like everyone else as well.
Hellsweep doesn't need to end in a combo to be good. In fact, most hellsweeps aren't combo starters and are still really good moves.
You can't even step it.
And if you truly think a parry that can literally parry EVERYTHING is trash, then the problem isn't Leroy, it's you-
You're just a weak player that can't even make this insane character work. You'd probably struggle to make fahkumram work too.

Don't bother telling him, he's wrong I guess. Hes not willing to listen to any players, I reached TGP and hes telling me i'm wrong.

[MaleficVisions]

As i saw from another thread, youre a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll.

Begone trash.

[Dan Smith]

引用自 Jesus is King：

As i saw from another thread, youre a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll.

Begone trash.

Jesus is not king. Unless he replaces king in tekken 8.

[Dave]

引用自 Dan Smith：

引用自 Jesus is King：

As i saw from another thread, youre a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ troll.

Begone trash.

Jesus is not king. Unless he replaces king in tekken 8.

Take this Holy RDC, sinner.

[babbty]

leroys db1 used to high crush. Whjy isnt it anymore? Thats a sign of overnerf

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引用自 Ryoda：

And yet he's gonna get nerfed more. And that despite you, the world renowned yellow rank expert, telling people that he's already pretty much the worst character in the game.
These ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pro players with their major titles have no idea what they're talking about when they say leroy is still too good. They think that over a decade of experience qualifies them to comment on balance, when in reality only people hardstuck in yellow should be allowed to make balance judgment.
I agree with you 100%, leroy is literal garbage, worse than gigas.

I still dont know what leory's neutral game is because I asked and people still send me videos after saying I dont want to watch videos

[N00BMASTER]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZdHUomkCg You obviously know more about this game in your 30mins play time then this guy does, gg. Who you gonna believe? a well respected expert or some random nobody that talks sh*t all the time??

[N00BMASTER]

Can we not all agree that if you're complaining that you can't win/ use one of the most busted character in the game, then that's a reflection on them as a player more then anything else?