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Irigy Kutya 2020 年 1 月 1 日 上午 8:51
Tekken is cancer, but remember, what Bruce Lee said
“Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless like cancer. Now you put cancer into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put cancer into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put cancer in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now cancer can flow or it can crash. Be cancer my friend.”

So basically choose Hwoarang and never stop pressing those buttons.
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Beyond 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 2:09 
引用自 poop
引用自 Jack of All Trades
There's no accountability. It's not like Steam is an arcade, where everybody knows each other to some degree and there is a sort of a community. You can talk ♥♥♥♥ and face no consequences, apart from being made fun of by the others.

You can say the most insane stuff out here and, as it seems to me, it's accepted as a norm by now.

IMO, online environments make people detached from reality in a way.

Arcades have consequences? Sure, Ask Daigo. When he was a kid some adult beat him up cuz he couldn't beat Daigo at a video game. Is that the consequence you want?

Talking crap with no consequences happens IRL every minute of every day. That's life. If you try to beat someone up over words you go to jail. How bout them apples? We have free speech, it's part of our constitution. It's not up for debate.
Sure, free speech and all, just don't ask me to validate anything someone else might say. I'm not telling him to shut his trap, I'm just saying that be aware of how others may perceive you.

If you whine a lot, you get a certain stench about you, get it? Especially if your complaints aren't backed up by anything solid or repeat themselves over and over again. I rarely post, but sometimes I can't help but mock such posters in a cheeky way.

最后由 Beyond 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 2:09
poop 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 2:17 
I just don't understand what consequences you'd like...mocking them is not enough?

If someone says something stupid all they deserve is to be ignored or corrected. It's not a reason to straight up ostracize someone. I get these repeat offenders should be permabanned (they are spamming, same thread different day) but that's up to the property owners...Valve or Namco can come here and permaban posters. But they do not. It's useless really since Steam accounts are free and you don't need to own the game to post here.

Our hands are tied as players. We either accept the other players or kill the game.
Beyond 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 2:20 
引用自 poop
I just don't understand what consequences you'd like...mocking them is not enough?

If someone says something stupid all they deserve is to be ignored or corrected. It's not a reason to straight up ostracize someone. I get these repeat offenders should be permabanned (they are spamming, same thread different day) but that's up to the property owners...Valve or Namco can come here and permaban posters. But they do not. It's useless really since Steam accounts are free and you don't need to own the game to post here.

Our hands are tied as players. We either accept the other players or kill the game.
I've never implied something as drastic as beating someone up. I'm just saying: "Act like a fool, be treated like a fool". Not to say that people should be treated like this forever either. We all make mistakes in judgement.
Irigy Kutya 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 2:40 
引用自 Midknight Battler
引用自 Jack of All Trades
There's no accountability. It's not like Steam is an arcade, where everybody knows each other to some degree and there is a sort of a community. You can talk ♥♥♥♥ and face no consequences, apart from being made fun of by the others.

You can say the most insane stuff out here and, as it seems to me, it's accepted as a norm by now.

IMO, online environments make people detached from reality in a way.

What consequences? Like how Stalin shoots anybody who criticize the great Soviet leader? Does everyone who post a meme about CNN has to be doxed?

If people bash a character, that means something is wrong. It didint come out of no where, something triggered it. Same goes for Leroy.
That's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ true. Literally everyone hates Hoe-wrong. Why him? Why there is no hate on Kazuya, not even on Devil-Jin who is officially an OP char. Why noone hates him? Cuz he's not brainless, like Hoe where you just press those buttons like an idiot and it's always his turn. I'm so sick of it that I can beat 30 dan players but not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yellow Hoe cuz he's just pressing and pressing. BS!!! And no matter what I lab about him, it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible to play against that piece of crap.
Pretzel von Schnitzel 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 3:06 
Everyone has the right to have personal opinion, guys and girls. You can agree with someone or not as much as you want. Nothing will change. I don`t want to offend anyone, so don`t take it personally but this conflict of opinions is a real joke. If some players won`t grow up and learn how to live with opposite opinions then this community won`t have future. Tekken 7 or any other online PvP game "experts" often have opinions that don`t reflect real situation in game.
Average player can say: "This character is too stupid. He can mash buttons all day and is too safe"
More skilled player will respond: "He is too hard. Most of his moves are unsafe and at high levels no one is playing as him".
Truth is - Both of those opinions are different sides of the same coin. It`s what i personally call "Two extremes". Both of them are only partly right. One doesn`t want to learn a bit more about the character to understand that he is not invincible and the other one is too ignorant or stubborn to accept the fact that this character is bad only at certain rank/skill level. All characters have pros and cons since this is still a fighting game. However, some characters can have better strengths than others and their weaknesses are not as bad as others. If someone wants to pretend that he/she is one big muddafukin expert in any PvP game then please, before saying something "smart" think of things like rank, skill difference and so on. It`s the minimum of what you should take in mind. I don`t know if the source of toxicity is pride or psychological trauma.

The more people will understand this, the better PvP environment will be. More players will be happy with the game and that means bigger playerbase for us and more money for publishers/developers. Not going to lie. I do have a strong feeling that i wasted time for nothing.

Good luck.
最后由 Pretzel von Schnitzel 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 3:15
SEATEK The_LEFTY 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 3:24 
I can agree with poop as well. Other than banning, there isnt much else that can be done. I guess I hope regulars remember the idiotic posts and bait topics and post a educational suggestion (many do btw) and we all move on.

It seems like when others or myself reply to problems or complaints, there isnt normally a positive response. If you let someone know that a move or situation has a weakness, they attack you for being a tryhard, noob, spammer, etc..

I have tried breaking things down in videos or podcasts as well, and it seems to fall on the deaf and blind.

Obviously, my sution would be to not help players in steam... but that doesn't seem to be an adequate response to ignorance and trolling. It feels like if I stop helping players on here I am contributing to the problem.and the disservice this board sometimes allows as a sounding board for untrained players.

My two cents.

This seems like a much better topic rather than Bruce Lee quotes being twisted into hating on hwoarang...

Irigy Kutya 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 3:33 
Guys, I did a quick test. I've just gone online, ranked, picked Hwoarang without learning anything about him, I don't know moves, combos, nothing, and I won my first match against a yellow Marduk. :DDDDD I will learn this mofo for sure, free trolling, free wins. xD

https://i.ibb.co/Kz5ThL0/20200102002224-1.jpg
SEATEK The_LEFTY 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 5:05 
We understand Hwoarang can be easily abused at low levels. What is an issue for that character however is once you start playing educated players who know the matchup and ways to beat the gimmicks (namely d+3,4 and random spam into RFF / backlash) the character suddenly plateaus. THat is why you don't see them in higher ranks. TYhere is only a handful that I know of honestly that can play him competently past the breakpoint.

This is the type of conversation you should probably have on the boards, because if the Hwo is beating you with spam, you may need to lab it some more. I know I continually revisit the character for matchup exp. This would help the OP as well as other players that may be too afraid or don't know what to ask.
SEATEK The_LEFTY 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 5:09 
引用自 Hidan
Guys, I did a quick test. I've just gone online, ranked, picked Hwoarang without learning anything about him, I don't know moves, combos, nothing, and I won my first match against a yellow Marduk. :DDDDD I will learn this mofo for sure, free trolling, free wins. xD

https://i.ibb.co/Kz5ThL0/20200102002224-1.jpg

Creating another thread with the exact same content is spam.

引用自 Hidan
So, I've just made an experiment. I picked Hoe-wrong, gone to online ranked without knowing ANYTHING with him. I don't even know combos. And I won my first match against a Marduk in yellow ranks. :DDDDDDD xD Jesus. I will learn this character cuz it's easy win. :D
最后由 SEATEK The_LEFTY 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 5:11
Lesnoy Bolvan 2020 年 1 月 1 日 下午 9:40 
“Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless like cancer. Now you put cancer into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put cancer into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put cancer in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now cancer can flow or it can crash. Be cancer my friend.”
ofey3 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 12:16 
引用自 SEATEK The_LEFTY
This wasn't a good joke post honestly.

Why does everyone hate on each eachothers characters on this message board particularly? You dont see this nearly as often on more popular forums

I see new topics pop up every week on here either complaining about a character, naming and shaming someone with little or no verifiable proof of anything, incorrect assumptions of other characters tools with no research or proof, as well as toxic behavior with little context to anything relevant or based in reality.

Could it be that the toxic behavior and overall poor communication of relevant facts is because this message board is a self fulfilling process of failure to learn and failure to teach over and over again? I think it might be.

I my opinion there is no reason to reply at these topic when someone complain about character especially when the same person make another post to complain about something.
It looks that they do not need any advice or help, they just need to complain to feel better.

These complaining topics are not harmful till they do not try offend another person. If they do this, i just report them.
Maybe this should be special topic for thesese coplainers on the top of the boards. Then they won't need create another new post in time when they want to complain.
Froz7y 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 4:19 
引用自 SEATEK The_LEFTY
Midnight, we have discussed lots of topics together. How can you realistically say that players that I am describing have legitimate complaints? I get your background with Gigas, but do you honestly believe that every other person that posts on here is justified in incorrect information or no facts to justify their claims?

It depends what they say, i will refute them with reasoning. I dont have to preach how the world is filled with ignorant people who dont share my own thoughts. However in this situation i do think Hwoarang is a rotten character.

Bamco gives Hwoarang everything, the sun and the moon, they buffed him in S3 to become the most annoying character when he has already potential to do so. Mean while they nerf the Pandas.

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pandas!

Thing is the Hwo players get away because nobody has properly break down the character..


Froz7y 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 4:22 
https://twitter.com/BTS_J1N_/status/1212411459126407175

https://twitter.com/Speedkicks/status/1209358615548612608

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_U2oNC1C3o

Dont believe these Hwo players begging sympathy.. they are counting on the fact that this character is complicated and hard to break down, but when you do, he has a lot of bs stuff that he gets away.

Namco gives this character so many things, and you have to punish them in so specific way and a ton of his stuff is just bs safe and give him advantage like Leroy.

最后由 Froz7y 编辑于; 2020 年 1 月 2 日 上午 4:22
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