How does CH work?

[Chief]

As the title states,

I'm still relatively new to the game but i have always wondered how this mechanic work in tekken 7. As in, counter hitting....

I know each fighting game counter hit system is unique to their own but how does tekken 7 work? Is it when you hit the button as your opponent hits theirs? Is it after they have hit theirs then you do it after?

[albax]

if i am throwing a move with 17 frames start up at you, and at the same time you doing your ch attack that has < 17 frames start up you gonna get a ch.

[Chief]

Originally posted by albax:

if i am throwing a move with 17 frames start up at you, and at the same time you doing your ch attack that has < 17 frames start up you gonna get a ch.

How would you know whether the move your opponent is throwing is 17 frames etc? Or when they will press it for you to do it at the exact time?

Its seems so luck based then if your solely relying on counter hitting? I'm just saying since characters like heiachi and steve fox (as examples) are CH orientated.

[Discane]

CH happens when you hit an opponent with his attack.
You may or may not get hit by an opponent. For example, if your attack was faster? or he misses somehow - you will not get hit.


Many fo attacks become much stronger on CH, you may read about them in frame data

http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/

Counter hit frame

[albax]

Originally posted by DatChief:

Originally posted by albax:

if i am throwing a move with 17 frames start up at you, and at the same time you doing your ch attack that has < 17 frames start up you gonna get a ch.

How would you know whether the move your opponent is throwing is 17 frames etc? Or when they will press it for you to do it at the exact time? Its seems so luck based then if your solely relying on counter hitting?

You dont know that, you should make a read, that is the beauty of the fighting games. You should observe what your opponent is doing and find the pattern. Or you can bait it, i gonna make an example :

When i play claudio i like to harass the opponent with f,f,f 2. This attack is +6 on block, so if he blocks it, i just gonna throw my fastest string 1,2 (10f) just to test if he is pressing buttons or not. If he does, next time i gonna do a setup: after he blocks f,f,f 2 i just press my ch attack d/f 2 and a get a free combo ;)

[Skiptro]

A CH is not something you do on reaction, you set it up by conditioning your opponent with other moves or by fishing for it using spacing and/or pressure.

[Chief]

Originally posted by GungZA:

A CH is not something you do on reaction, you set it up by conditioning your opponent with other moves or by fishing for it using spacing and/or pressure.

So its much harder to CH at higher level since opponents generally press less buttons?

[albax]

Originally posted by DatChief:

Originally posted by GungZA:

A CH is not something you do on reaction, you set it up by conditioning your opponent with other moves or by fishing for it using spacing and/or pressure.

So its much harder to CH at higher level since opponents generally press less buttons?

Yes, cuz good people respect opponents + frames. But it is still very doable, as i said before you have to make a read or condition your opponent to press a button