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Is leo a weak character?
Almost 150 matches played with him, know to use every move he have in his list, know to use the optimal combo, and i cannot surpass Grand master............

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON, i started playing this game with a friend, he taked catarina and he reaches juggernaut.................................

PD:
Thank u guys for the responses, i was obsessed with rank and i wasnt enjoying the game, now i will take it step by step
Last edited by Hacedor de Heces; Jul 9, 2020 @ 4:15am
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Hacedor de Heces Jul 4, 2020 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Diamond Girls:
I never won any single Leo players match up, when I can beat some Tekken gods. Go figure XD

Kidding aside, I think you have problem with match up. So as usual, practice each char that gives you a hard time in the lab then figure it out how to defend against them.

my friend only taked catarina and stomps all the matchus he got, he and me never touched tekken before
Hacedor de Heces Jul 4, 2020 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Diamond Girls:
Also, I wont be envious with my friend. I would be happy for him or her and be inspired by him or her.
u like to be stomped on every game u play? i think NO ONE .....
無明 Jul 4, 2020 @ 11:54am 
you have to figure out his cheap mix ups, like the one where he either launches you or stomps your foot. stuff like that.
I think I know your problem, so I'll quote Zane:

Originally posted by Hell Kaiser:
Knowing how to use a card and knowing how to play it are two different things

You know how to make the moves, how to perform them, but not how to use them.

Basically, what you did is try to run before you can walk, you lack the basics.

What are Leo's best pokes? What about punisher? Do you know your important moves? What are your safe moves?

Knowing how to do the most optimal combo means nothing when you can't get to start it because you're in the blank when it comes to basics.
Last edited by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫; Jul 4, 2020 @ 12:39pm
ah yes. katarina. the classic case. https://youtu.be/ONT42TNv2Cg regarding you, i'd like to see for myself how you are in a match.
Rikkore Jul 4, 2020 @ 11:01pm 
most of the time it's not the character but the player that's weak
Hacedor de Heces Jul 5, 2020 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by Naedrin:
ah yes. katarina. the classic case. https://youtu.be/ONT42TNv2Cg regarding you, i'd like to see for myself how you are in a match.

I didnt said im good, but if my friend reach that rank easily i suposed to do that too, btw this is not my 1st fighting game, i know the basics
Trippy Drug Jul 5, 2020 @ 4:18am 
Leo is a character which has been left behind in season 3. His thing used to be crazy good wall carry in sacrifice of overall combo damage, but now everyone has really good wall carry so the only thing he has going on for him is solid pokes.

Not to mention he isn't the easiest character either. If you want to do some actual combo damage instead of the like, 54 that his df2 gives him for example, you need to learn knk cancels, which have a considerably high execution skill requirement. Meanwhile his pokes, albeit good, no doubt, aren't something that an experienced player will fall.

Yeah, on lower levels you can troll people with him, but that's true for pretty much almost all of the characters in the game. 150 matches is not really that much either, not to mention that each person learns at his own pace, and that you have to keep in mind fundamentals too.

tl;dr season 3 overbuffed a lot of certain characters, Leo was not one of them, so he does usually require a little bit more work to work. Nevertheless, if you like the character that shouldn't stop you from keeping up practice in order to overcome the gap between overall character strengths. Just because he isn't great doesn't mean you can't compete with him.
Originally posted by Hacedor de Heces:
Originally posted by Naedrin:
ah yes. katarina. the classic case. https://youtu.be/ONT42TNv2Cg regarding you, i'd like to see for myself how you are in a match.

I didnt said im good, but if my friend reach that rank easily i suposed to do that too, btw this is not my 1st fighting game, i know the basics
did you watch the video..? because the response to what you just said would be that video. you only need to listen to half of it to get the picture.
pablonesmrtelny Jul 5, 2020 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Hacedor de Heces:
Almost 150 matches played with him, know to use every move he have in his list, know to use the optimal combo, and i cannot surpass Grand master............

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON, i started playing this game with a friend, he taked catarina and he reaches juggernaut.................................
Leo has only one weakness - he has too many similarly good moves. This causes players to play him inefficiently.

You gotta create a simple gameplan with a few moves (a few lows/mids/highs) for all positions (wall/open/pressure/whiff punishment/OKI) and try to make it work. THEN you can slooowly add more and more moves when you get experienced.

Leo has b1,4 which is completely OP on beginner level (honestly you could propably spam your way to purple ranks just by spamming that but dont do it). He also has a great df2 and hellsweep which are powermoves. For safe mid he has the qcf2,1 or something - those two delayable rangy almost homing punches where second hit launch on CH. For low poke he has d4 I think.

Then he has the stance which is slower but can be used to great effect if you set it up (the 2 from the stance the mid launcher is best propably)

The she has tons of different strings. She has one delayable hitconfirmable mid mid db1+2,2 or something. That is godlike on wall - you do first hit and if it connects you do the second hit and wallsplat. If they block first hit you do not do the second hit. You gotta practice that hitconfirm.

Then he has about million and two thousand other useful tools but you gotta select those you wanna use carefully because you don't wanna spend time thinking what you should use. That has to be natural.
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YT/@GamerGobind Jul 6, 2020 @ 3:25am 
Leo is between average and strong character. If you are having trouble then go for characters which are top tier and also easy. You can refer this video for help: https://youtu.be/xeQiEe2bYl4
Tone Jul 6, 2020 @ 3:35am 
Originally posted by Hacedor de Heces:
Almost 150 matches played with him, know to use every move he have in his list, know to use the optimal combo, and i cannot surpass Grand master............

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON, i started playing this game with a friend, he taked catarina and he reaches juggernaut.................................
You're just bad, for some reason. Maybe you overthink this, maybe you've seen too many guides, but there is no a character so bad that you can't get over Grand master with it. Especially Leo, who has scary mixups and is not well known.
Originally posted by Ryoda:
Also... Leo is a girl not a boy. Thank you.
thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
You know, in a way I kinda find these people funny.

They aren't bad persay, they just lack fundamentals and have a high ego. (You aren't special kid, accept it)

I spar with a friend who's hard stuck dan 1/3, he's supper aggressive so it's nice practice on how to stop them hyper aggressive players. I try to give him tips on how to finally get to teal ranks, but all I get as reply is "the others care only to win an not to have fun, that they use too many characters with gimmicks instead of fair ones (he mains Feng and Yoshimutsu) and all the regular excuses telling me how he knows how to play and all.

Sure, he's clearly not a 1 Dan player, he's OK, but he's just too stuck up and such to be able to get out of lower ranks.

OP may be in a similar place, blames the character not the player as he blames the character instead of himself for not knowing the basics.

For reference, I got to green ranks in 50 wins (total game count around 80 something) without combos, just basic poke, keepout and 1,2 punish.
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