King's b1 ???

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Why does he get a move like that ?

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Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

I like that move on counterhit. It's fast and can be a combo starter. But it's high so the opponent can duck.

I guess any character has b1 move.

Well, yeah, but he also has: good throw, good low, good frame trap and all, his b1 is only 1 frame faster than steve's b1. Safe on block, + 3 on normal hit, and yes you can duck it, but not when king is using it as keep out tool

[Trax]

is this another of those bait "king is op and brain dead" threads? pls be more creative and come up with something more original, so we normal people can laugh at something new about your patethic trolling skills

[DonVISIONe]

Dont spam buttons when its not ur turn, problem solved

[Yosogoto]

Originally posted by DonVISIONe:

Dont spam buttons when its not ur turn, problem solved

No, see, that's a short-term mindset

I mean, learn to play around it while we still have to play Tekken 7, but King really doesn't need a move like that.

It's a product of the "Tekken is bloated" thing that people are starting to realize. Every character has tools that fit every situation, so they all cover their bases and sorta do the same things

People didn't complain about it in Tag2 (I think it CH launched in Tag2 anyway) because King couldn't do much damage solo, and stepping was way better in that game

It's easier to complain about stuff in Tekken 7 because everything in this game is turned up to 11, unless your character sucks, then you just can't really hang with the ones that don't suck

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by DonVISIONe:

Dont spam buttons when its not ur turn, problem solved

Yep, his b1 is a good move but still its a pretty standard tool. And not even THAT useful for king honestly because if he has enough frames to hit you with b1 he has enough frames to throw you.

Not sure why King's b1 should cause anyone problems really.

[Be_Proud (Heritage)]

Originally posted by Oxygen Thief:

Originally posted by DonVISIONe:

Dont spam buttons when its not ur turn, problem solved

No, see, that's a short-term mindset

I mean, learn to play around it while we still have to play Tekken 7, but King really doesn't need a move like that.

It's a product of the "Tekken is bloated" thing that people are starting to realize. Every character has tools that fit every situation, so they all cover their bases and sorta do the same things

People didn't complain about it in Tag2 (I think it CH launched in Tag2 anyway) because King couldn't do much damage solo, and stepping was way better in that game

It's easier to complain about stuff in Tekken 7 because everything in this game is turned up to 11, unless your character sucks, then you just can't really hang with the ones that don't suck

Lol no. This question is like asking why some characters have a magic 4, d/f1, or a d/f2. Simple, it's a generic counter-hit tool that has no range, is unsafe with extender, and can be whiffed or side-stepped. King's is -8 on block. That means the attack is safe, but you've effectively lost your turn (unless you go for the unsafe extenders). Besides, there are better moves you should be worrying about when you're fighting King. His mid aren't the quickest or have good frames, so if you're getting pressured up-close by a King, you've got other things to worry about than his b1.

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My point is that many character are doing everything well, when it's not their speciality, i don't know, maybe instead of a b1 ch, make it a parry into a throw mixup

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Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

There is no workaround for that other than not rematching him if u feel he has unfair advantage.

I'm not talking about unfairness, i'm talking about character identity

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Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

There is no workaround for that other than not rematching him if u feel he has unfair advantage.

Like, just think about if steve had a 15 f hopkick, it would make no sense.

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Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

Sure, Steve shouldn't have hop kick bcoz he is a boxer. But King is a wrestler. Im sure u watched WWE. They stunned on punch even though it's scripted. But in real life u can be stunned by sudden jab especially on CH.

Well, if it's like that, every punch should ch launcher

[The Fabled Englishman]

Originally posted by Kyle Watson:

Originally posted by Diamond Girls:

There is no workaround for that other than not rematching him if u feel he has unfair advantage.

I'm not talking about unfairness, i'm talking about character identity

The idea that there are distinct character archetypes in Tekken is utterly specious. Some have marginal strengths in some areas and weaknesses in others but most characters function broadly the same way in this game and share the same tools (e.g. df1, magic 4/b1 CH launcher, generic d4s etc). In King's case, he has stronger throws but weaker lows, a slower df1 etc.

If you were to make King a dedicated grappler he would be a trashcan simply because throws are so weak in this iteration of Tekken.

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Originally posted by The Fabled Englishman:

Originally posted by Kyle Watson:

I'm not talking about unfairness, i'm talking about character identity

The idea that there are distinct character archetypes in Tekken is utterly specious. Some have marginal strengths in some areas and weaknesses in others but most characters function broadly the same way in this game and share the same tools (e.g. df1, magic 4/b1 CH launcher, generic d4s etc). In King's case, he has stronger throws but weaker lows, a slower df1 etc.

If you were to make King a dedicated grappler he would be a trashcan simply because throws are so weak in this iteration of Tekken.

Yeah, i know, but i'd like that in the next tekken, they innovate a little, because i have the impression to play against the same type of character every game

[Trax]

Originally posted by Kyle Watson:

Originally posted by Trax:

is this another of those bait "king is op and brain dead" threads? pls be more creative and come up with something more original, so we normal people can laugh at something new about your patethic trolling skills

So, are you saying that as many person complain about a character, it means that it's a bait, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

well, i remember you complaining about some other marginal thing in the past, so you are a scrub or, seeing that we have a lot of threads complaining about king recently, a troll. pick whatever you like best ;)

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Originally posted by Trax:

Originally posted by Kyle Watson:

So, are you saying that as many person complain about a character, it means that it's a bait, what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥

well, i remember you complaining about some other marginal thing in the past, so you are a scrub or, seeing that we have a lot of threads complaining about king recently, a troll. pick whatever you like best ;)

Wow, people like you actually exist, thinking that because someone has a different point of view than you, he is a troll or a scrub, that's some idiotic way of thinkin.

[Trax]

Originally posted by Kyle Watson:

Originally posted by Trax:

well, i remember you complaining about some other marginal thing in the past, so you are a scrub or, seeing that we have a lot of threads complaining about king recently, a troll. pick whatever you like best ;)

Wow, people like you actually exist, thinking that because someone has a different point of view than you, he is a troll or a scrub, that's some idiotic way of thinkin.

crying about a counter hit launcher, a move that has the exact same effect as tons of other moves in the game = different point of view? if you say so...