What's with all the DLC characters?

[epic FUZZ]

I've been gone from Tekken 7 for better part of a year if not more, came back, downloaded the patch and see a tonne of DLC characters. So I go to the game's DLC listing and it's £5 for one character. Really? I'd rather just play and unlock them like previous Tekkens did it. Dead or Alive has this same problem, although there it's cosmetics adding up to thousands of pounds. I'd go as far as to say DLC/season passes ruined fighting games (or go a long way to. Arguably the other thing is that I can't play to unlock characters which removed one reason for playing in the first place). Anyway, that's just my opinion on how the game looked when I launched it

[Tshask]

I'm ok with the existence of DLCs in general, but the problem is, apart from Season 1 they haven't been releasing any content apart from characters. No cosmetics, no new game modes. Nothing. Only frame data display DLC if you want to count that.

I'm sick of new characters at this point, we have enough already. A pack of new quality stages and outfits would be much more interesting.

[Toods]

With every DLC they should add a small amount to the base game, like an outfit piece or an attack effect. I appreciate the extra content, I just can't keep throwing money at this game.

[RKoz¦90N]

Nah, gimme all the characters from the start. I don't want to play 10 hours of story mode just to unlock a character, like in dbfz.

Also: Why would they release new characters for free, years after the game has launched? It's
just not standard practice in the industry.

[Zako]

RKoz の投稿を引用：

Nah, gimme all the characters from the start. I don't want to play 10 hours of story mode just to unlock a character, like in dbfz.

Also: Why would they release new characters for free, years after the game has launched? It's
just not standard practice in the industry.

not everyone is ready to spend money on a videogame just to be able to deal with dlc characters and not get rekt

[RKoz¦90N]

Zakkr01_ITA の投稿を引用：

not everyone is ready to spend money on a videogame just to be able to deal with dlc characters and not get rekt

Okay? Not rly sure why you write that at me.

[Zako]

RKoz の投稿を引用：

Zakkr01_ITA の投稿を引用：

not everyone is ready to spend money on a videogame just to be able to deal with dlc characters and not get rekt

Okay? Not rly sure why you write that at me.

pretty easy to guess actually,you want dlcs right?im telling you why people wouldnt want them, this whole thread is about him not liking dlcs in the first place so you coming out here saying " Nah, gimme all the characters from the start. I don't want to play 10 hours of story mode just to unlock a character, like in dbfz."make me wonder if you care about what others might think and perhaps if you dont you are just wasting your time on this thread or maybe i just misunderstood you and you dont want dlcs?

[DJukor]

Someone has to pay for new characters to get made.
Especially years after the games original release.
People modeling them programing them balancing them play testing them animating them do not work for free.
And most of the people who actually play fighting games and are not flavor of the month casuals are actually happy to get more content for a fighting game years after release.
Not to mention you can alweays wait for a sale and get characters for less.

Also season passes have actually saved fighting games not ruined them. Because of them we get actual updates and balance patches regularly instead of having to buy a new version of a game just to get a balance patch.
Hell Tekken season 3 is so much different than vanilla that is borderline a new game.
Tekken 5 and 6 are more similar than 7 vanila and 7 season 3.
Before this generation you where lucky if a game had even a single new balance patch.
Especially in a game like tekken that gives you a ton of characters out of the box even wo having to buy a season pass.

Harada himself stated Namco would not give them money to make balance patches unless the game could sell additional content after release as it's just not profitable.

I do think thou that DLC characters should be free in Training mode in fighters just to give people an ability to lab a character and not have to pay money for it.

[JChills]

I don't mind the DLC characters, my only issue is that you have to purchase these characters to lab them. I don't really want to spend money on characters that I'm not going to use, but it would be nice if I could lab Ganryu and Zafina.

[DJukor]

JChills の投稿を引用：

I don't mind the DLC characters, my only issue is that you have to purchase these characters to lab them. I don't really want to spend money on characters that I'm not going to use, but it would be nice if I could lab Ganryu and Zafina.

Yea i agree that dlc chars should be free in traning mode.
I mean even games like Heroes of the storm lets you try out a character.

Hell i often get a huge urge to play a character online after playng them in training mode i think making them free in it would actually make more people want to buy them.

[RKoz¦90N]

OP wants two things: Not pay for dlc and more offline content by having to unlock some characters through arcade mode.

Free DLC isn't gonna happen. The developer/publisher still puts money into this game and expects a return on this investment. Demanding payment for new content aka new characters is just common sense.
Unlocking all characters in practice mode, for free, would be great though and seems like a reasonable demand. But the OP never brought that up.

Gating characters behind an offline mode is just a lazy way to extend playtime. No thanks. Imagine having to play treasure battle with Shaheen, just so you can unlock Lee

[Zako]

RKoz の投稿を引用：

OP wants two things: Not pay for dlc and more offline content by having to unlock some characters through arcade mode.

Free DLC isn't gonna happen. The developer/publisher still puts money into this game and expects a return on this investment. Demanding payment for new content aka new characters is just common sense.
Unlocking all characters in practice mode, for free, would be great though and seems like a reasonable demand. But the OP never brought that up.

Gating characters behind an offline mode is just a lazy way to extend playtime. No thanks. Imagine having to play treasure battle with Shaheen, just so you can unlock Lee

that would be awful i dont think anyone wants that(having to unlock characters)besides op.but i dont give a damn if they invest to make new characters i would rather have them not investing anything and me not having to pay(but obviously i dont want free dlcs),its crazy that you have to pay in order to be able to deal with characters. people who like to spend extra money on games are gonna pay anyway why not give the possibility to use them in practice mode for those who arent?

[MLupo]

The difference is past characters you unlocked where in the game from the start and the locked characters where introduced post released. Past situation would be like half the roaster locked and no more new characters until a new game. You can't demand service without paying people. This is not how the world works.

[poop]

Zakkr01_ITA の投稿を引用：

RKoz の投稿を引用：

OP wants two things: Not pay for dlc and more offline content by having to unlock some characters through arcade mode.

Free DLC isn't gonna happen. The developer/publisher still puts money into this game and expects a return on this investment. Demanding payment for new content aka new characters is just common sense.
Unlocking all characters in practice mode, for free, would be great though and seems like a reasonable demand. But the OP never brought that up.

Gating characters behind an offline mode is just a lazy way to extend playtime. No thanks. Imagine having to play treasure battle with Shaheen, just so you can unlock Lee

that would be awful i dont think anyone wants that(having to unlock characters)besides op.but i dont give a damn if they invest to make new characters i would rather have them not investing anything and me not having to pay(but obviously i dont want free dlcs),its crazy that you have to pay in order to be able to deal with characters. people who like to spend extra money on games are gonna pay anyway why not give the possibility to use them in practice mode for those who arent?

I guess you don't remember how easy it was to unlock characters in earlier Tekken games.
All you had to do was beat arcade mode on easy with a different character. And you could play up to the last match with your main and just throw the fight to get back to character select.
Or if you didn't have a main back then just pick Paul and smash everyone or pick Eddy and just mash 3,4. Unlock new chracter every 5 minutes. That didn't extend play time nearly as much as the unlocks themselves did.

[RKoz¦90N]

poop の投稿を引用：

Zakkr01_ITA の投稿を引用：

that would be awful i dont think anyone wants that(having to unlock characters)besides op.but i dont give a damn if they invest to make new characters i would rather have them not investing anything and me not having to pay(but obviously i dont want free dlcs),its crazy that you have to pay in order to be able to deal with characters. people who like to spend extra money on games are gonna pay anyway why not give the possibility to use them in practice mode for those who arent?

I guess you don't remember how easy it was to unlock characters in earlier Tekken games.
All you had to do was beat arcade mode on easy with a different character. And you could play up to the last match with your main and just throw the fight to get back to character select.
Or if you didn't have a main back then just pick Paul and smash everyone or pick Eddy and just mash 3,4. Unlock new chracter every 5 minutes. That didn't extend play time nearly as much as the unlocks themselves did.

So what was the point then, if not artificially extend play time?

[Zako]

poop の投稿を引用：

Zakkr01_ITA の投稿を引用：

that would be awful i dont think anyone wants that(having to unlock characters)besides op.but i dont give a damn if they invest to make new characters i would rather have them not investing anything and me not having to pay(but obviously i dont want free dlcs),its crazy that you have to pay in order to be able to deal with characters. people who like to spend extra money on games are gonna pay anyway why not give the possibility to use them in practice mode for those who arent?

I guess you don't remember how easy it was to unlock characters in earlier Tekken games.
All you had to do was beat arcade mode on easy with a different character. And you could play up to the last match with your main and just throw the fight to get back to character select.
Or if you didn't have a main back then just pick Paul and smash everyone or pick Eddy and just mash 3,4. Unlock new chracter every 5 minutes. That didn't extend play time nearly as much as the unlocks themselves did.

seems legit but fortunately tekken 7 is my first, watching tmm videos about previous games i consider myself pretty lucky that i didnt play those cancer games