nEgaN dOeSn'T bElOnG iN tEkKeN {ExplaIn?}

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Ok maybe its because im new to tekken but can someone please explain to me why Characters like Alisa, Yoshi & Master Raven belong but Negan doesnt bc he has a bat? Like Alisa Has chainsaws that come out of her body and she can detach her head and shoot rockets from her arms (dont even get me started on this compared to 2d chars).

[Pinocchio]

SLAYER původně napsal:

Oh, yeah, when you break it down like this, I can clearly see how that boring piece of sheet -who was created just to feed people's recent hunger for relatable villains- fits right in. I totally get how an insanely boring character from an insanely boring and overrated TV show/comic belongs in Tekken.

You people simply don't want to get it. It's not only the violence. That guy sticks out like a sore thumb. He is like that one pissbag who hits the car horn repeatedly in traffic while nobody else would.

>Says the problem is the violence.
>Gets shown that Tekken was always violent.
>Says it has nothing to do with violence.

Ok buddy sure, all I see is that he's an amazing character and I'm having a hella lot of fun with him. He stands out ? Maybe, but to be honest, all of the Season 2 DLC characters stand out. Julia looks like a guest character to me.

Now, if you wanna start ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and whining because of a damn video game character, alright, but at least bring any argument to this. "Oh but the guest character doesn't fit in !" Gee, I wonder what the "GUEST" stands for. Besides, the only thing he stands out for is how much charisma his moves try to give. He's probably the only character to have so many lines, especially the counter-hit Bat moves, and his model looks much more polished than the others, and for me, it makes it an even better Negan than we could have hoped for. The character is known for standing out and stealing the show, that's exactly why he has so much charisma, that's exactly why even those who didn't watch TWD still know who Negan is, that's how much his character is BASED on stealing the show. But sure, your opinion is the divine truth and Negan is boring. But well, you play Gigas so you're used to garbage I guess.

As for Bob, the Design Shop episode on Fat characters might get you interested.

[Eternal Wanderer]

Is your skull really so thick?

- This is a thread that invites people to share their thoughts as to why they don't like a certain new char.
- I shared my thoughts.
- I basically said he doesn't fit in and there was one iteration of the word "violent", which you really seem to love and love and love to base your whole attack on.
- I added that my opinion probably doesn't matter at all, that Bamco selling their product is ultimately what matters in the end.

So...

Are you really going to be so dense? Or do you probably love endless pointless banter?

[Pinocchio]

SLAYER původně napsal:

Is your skull really so thick?

- This is a thread that invites people to share their thoughts as to why they don't like a certain new char.
- I shared my thoughts.
- I basically said he doesn't fit in and there was one iteration of the word "violent", which you really seem to love and love and love to base your whole attack on.
- I added that my opinion probably doesn't matter at all, that Bamco selling their product is ultimately what matters in the end.

So...

Are you really going to be so dense? Or do you probably love endless pointless banter?

Right, this thread is asking WHY does he doesn't fit in, and the only argument you're able to give is "hurr durr violence". When you'll have anything else to back up your ♥♥♥♥ then go on. And keep in mind there's a difference between standing out, and not fitting in. But yeah, keep acting like you're all winning.

[Eternal Wanderer]

Ok, I don't even.

[Tshask]

Oh, Excerrent ! původně napsal:

>Says the problem is the violence.
>Gets shown that Tekken was always violent.

You haven't shown anything. Maybe I would somewhat agree with you if it wasn't for Negan's counter hit and rage art.

Show me which other character hits you with a baseball bat, gets his baseball bat lodged in your head because the barbed wire has pierced your skull, so he has to push you away to take it out.

And then the rage art. Gives me instant thoughts of broken skull, paralysis, coma and death.

Marduk or Miguel have a violent style but this is on another level. I would be totally fine with this if it was Mortal Kombat, but your're bringing it to Tekken.

Maybe I'll get used to it but right now I kinda feel like the game has been ruined for me.

[Pinocchio]

Tshask původně napsal:

You haven't shown anything. Maybe I would somewhat agree with you if it wasn't for Negan's counter hit and rage art.

Show me which other character hits you with a baseball bat, gets his baseball bat lodged in your head because the barbed wire has pierced your skull, so he has to push you away to take it out.

And then the rage art. Gives me instant thoughts of broken skull, paralysis, coma and death.

Marduk or Miguel have a violent style but this is on another level. I would be totally fine with this if it was Mortal Kombat, but your're bringing it to Tekken.

Maybe I'll get used to it but right now I kinda feel like the game has been ruined for me.

Read the comment above where I listed things in the lore.

As for the gameplay, it's just so funny that you think "violence" is too much in a damn fighting game. Yeah, the baseball bat gets stuck ... and then you get up as if nothing happened. Bryan's ss+1 looks realistically brutal (Let's not even talk about Fisherman). Dragunov's b1+2 looks realistically brutal. Hwoarang's backlash looks realistically brutal. Every single Miguel move looks realistically brutal. All of these moves can cause a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brain trauma (maybe even put you in a coma for Dragunov's b1+2 which SLAMS you on the ground, realistically that would make the person pass out very easily).

How is it that Negan hitting you with a bat "way too much violence, there are kids watching" when Kuma literally eats your chest out ? Negan's counter-hit attacks are the same, they just have a long animation to add emphasis because yes, a baseball bat is more brutal than straight up punches, but still, your character gets up and there isn't even any blood anywhere. Negan LITERALLY fits in the rules.

And to be honest, Dragunov's rage art gives me way more chills than Negan's one.

[Froz7y]

Oh, Excerrent ! původně napsal:

Tshask původně napsal:

You haven't shown anything. Maybe I would somewhat agree with you if it wasn't for Negan's counter hit and rage art.

Show me which other character hits you with a baseball bat, gets his baseball bat lodged in your head because the barbed wire has pierced your skull, so he has to push you away to take it out.

And then the rage art. Gives me instant thoughts of broken skull, paralysis, coma and death.

Marduk or Miguel have a violent style but this is on another level. I would be totally fine with this if it was Mortal Kombat, but your're bringing it to Tekken.

Maybe I'll get used to it but right now I kinda feel like the game has been ruined for me.

Read the comment above where I listed things in the lore.

As for the gameplay, it's just so funny that you think "violence" is too much in a damn fighting game. Yeah, the baseball bat gets stuck ... and then you get up as if nothing happened. Bryan's ss+1 looks realistically brutal (Let's not even talk about Fisherman). Dragunov's b1+2 looks realistically brutal. Hwoarang's backlash looks realistically brutal. Every single Miguel move looks realistically brutal. All of these moves can cause a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brain trauma (maybe even put you in a coma for Dragunov's b1+2 which SLAMS you on the ground, realistically that would make the person pass out very easily).

How is it that Negan hitting you with a bat "way too much violence, there are kids watching" when Kuma literally eats your chest out ? Negan's counter-hit attacks are the same, they just have a long animation to add emphasis because yes, a baseball bat is more brutal than straight up punches, but still, your character gets up and there isn't even any blood anywhere. Negan LITERALLY fits in the rules.

And to be honest, Dragunov's rage art gives me way more chills than Negan's one.

Kuma doesnt eat... he was making love.

[Pinocchio]

Midknight Battler původně napsal:

Kuma doesnt eat... he was making love.

I guess it's called "Bear Hug" after all.

[Tshask]

Oh, Excerrent ! původně napsal:

Tshask původně napsal:

You haven't shown anything. Maybe I would somewhat agree with you if it wasn't for Negan's counter hit and rage art.

Show me which other character hits you with a baseball bat, gets his baseball bat lodged in your head because the barbed wire has pierced your skull, so he has to push you away to take it out.

And then the rage art. Gives me instant thoughts of broken skull, paralysis, coma and death.

Marduk or Miguel have a violent style but this is on another level. I would be totally fine with this if it was Mortal Kombat, but your're bringing it to Tekken.

Maybe I'll get used to it but right now I kinda feel like the game has been ruined for me.

Read the comment above where I listed things in the lore.

As for the gameplay, it's just so funny that you think "violence" is too much in a damn fighting game. Yeah, the baseball bat gets stuck ... and then you get up as if nothing happened. Bryan's ss+1 looks realistically brutal (Let's not even talk about Fisherman). Dragunov's b1+2 looks realistically brutal. Hwoarang's backlash looks realistically brutal. Every single Miguel move looks realistically brutal. All of these moves can cause a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brain trauma (maybe even put you in a coma for Dragunov's b1+2 which SLAMS you on the ground, realistically that would make the person pass out very easily).

How is it that Negan hitting you with a bat "way too much violence, there are kids watching" when Kuma literally eats your chest out ? Negan's counter-hit attacks are the same, they just have a long animation to add emphasis because yes, a baseball bat is more brutal than straight up punches, but still, your character gets up and there isn't even any blood anywhere. Negan LITERALLY fits in the rules.

And to be honest, Dragunov's rage art gives me way more chills than Negan's one.

I don't know, man. Dragunov's rage art doesn't bother me much, but Negan's on my character gives me a surge of negative emotions that can linger after the battle, and there's this tension in my stomach, the one you feel when you're stressed.

I'm thinking I might have to play Negan myself for a while to get used to those moves.

[xunlaiAgent]

Because random characters from some obscure TV series, acted by a nobody, don't belong to it? If you add a TV character, at least add someone interesting or cool. But oh wait, they couldn't afford that with a 10k budget.

[xunlaiAgent]

SLAYER původně napsal:

Oh, Excerrent ! původně napsal:

There's a lot more stuff to show how dark Tekken really is but yeah, we did. And the old man even threw his son in a volcano too. Twice.

The darkness in Tekken is/used to be gothic, to say the least. It has/had no space for outright violent and boring pieces of sheet like Negan. Brian doesn't really count as a comparison, as he is simply a crazed android built to kill and create havoc.

In the end, it all comes down to historical and sentimental value of the series. Older fans are always looking for that same old sensation. But it was gone long ago anyway.

So you don't have to listen to people's whining. I also have lots of criticism about the turn Bamco is inclined to take with this game, but I also realize that my opinion doesn't necessarily have to matter. How they can reach out to wider audiences is what matters at this point. And I or others can't really do anything to change that. Better roll with or just leave it.

Don't you dare compare Bryan to some nobody from a cookie cutter netflix show or whatever this Neegan is from. Bryan is inspired by the antagonist of Blade Runner, Roy Batty, who is one of the most memorable characters in the scifi genre.

[deangelis777]

Negan belongs in Walking Dead 😁😁 seriously I don't care about Negan.. I just don't like him because his animation and movement looks weird.. he looks like Miguel with bat... his fighting style isn't exciting for me so I'll never pick him for playing. I am not whining, it's just my opinion

[Eternal Wanderer]

In the end, I got Marduk back. And just as thought way earlier, I genuinely enjoy wiping the floor with that Neegan sheet. At this time, I got that going for me, which is pretty nice.

[Yallus]

SLAYER původně napsal:

In the end, I got Marduk back. And just as thought way earlier, I genuinely enjoy wiping the floor with that Neegan sheet. At this time, I got that going for me, which is pretty nice.

I'm getting SP2 soon, and I can't wait to try Marduk. Do you know of any good written resources I could use for him? The main video guide is kind of all over the place when it comes to presentation.

[Eternal Wanderer]

Well, just like when I started playing Gigas, I went with KingJae's videos. Even just watching him play gives you a very good idea as well.

As for written resources, I really don't have much in that department. All I have is rbnorway.org, where I learnt a little bit about his frame data.