I refuse to fight against NEGAN

[Iosefka V2]

I am playing Anna and i am Vanquisher.I can't punish him when he is attacking.I am blocking his moves but he is gaining + frames and launching his launchers.His combos are super easy and has high damage.Even His intros are 5 minutes.Pay2win character from Harada.

[TequilaSunrise]

Dear Agony a écrit :

Tshask a écrit :

You should practice some punishment. Quite a lot of his moves are - on block or are sidesteppable.

See this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoN-aOdoVuo

Can you give me an example punishment with Anna

Here are some: for i10 punish you have 2,3, good 10 frame punish into Chaos stance mixup.
The problem is you don't get anything else till 14 frames, with f2, 3.
Well at 13 frames you have df1, 2 but the damage isnt great.
Also for long range punish you can do f2+3(her hip thrust), also 14frames iirc.
From crouch you got ws3 into mixup from stance.
Or directly using a mixup since you are already on crouch and they have to guess from low and mid.

Anna is definitely not a punisher character. She is one of the worst chars at that.

[TequilaSunrise]

Also remember ff3 is her hopkick and you can punish some moves from mid/long range with it, but you gotta be on point with execution or it will be too slow.

[Iosefka V2]

Elbows4Subs a écrit :

Also remember ff3 is her hopkick and you can punish some moves from mid/long range with it, but you gotta be on point with execution or it will be too slow.

Thanks for tips ^^

[Iosefka V2]

Nobody hates negan just wow.Thats interesting btw

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

It's not that we hate/don't hate Negan, it's that many of his "OP" moves have glaring weaknesses. The issue is that many players with missing defensive understanding cannot easily stop these moves. It is similar to when Noctis first came out (I could get into the d/b 1+2 or iWR1+2 stories another time). The difference is that many of Negan's options have clear counters (Movement, ducking a seeable hit, challenging a 13f move at the end of a string (his overhead bat attack), creating space (his many lows don't have decent range) or his lack of a low-crushing hopkick)).

It takes some actual lab time to stop these sorts of things. That's why many players complained for a week then learned and watched other players beat him. Now it isn't nearly as bad as it was.

[HighLanderPony]

Dear Diary...

[TequilaSunrise]

HighLanderPony a écrit :

Dead Diary...

Damm thats some dark diary.

[HighLanderPony]

Elbows4Subs a écrit :

HighLanderPony a écrit :

Dead Diary...

Damm thats some dark diary.

Hue

[Sirlion]

I refuse to fight against refusals

[Dave]

God, you sound like Tshask.

[Iosefka V2]

Dave a écrit :

God, you sound like Tshask.

Who is Tshask

[Iosefka V2]

Sirlion a écrit :

I refuse to fight against refusals

Buff Lili

[Pasta]

Dear Agony a écrit :

Dave a écrit :

God, you sound like Tshask.

Who is Tshask

It's Me, Austin!

[Iosefka V2]

Ryoda a écrit :

Don't press into + frames. At your rank a lot of negans just spam plus frame moves. If they like to do them multiple times in a row (as many in these ranks do), you can easily step the second one and launch them.
It's not a good strategy and they should mix you up with their plus frames instead of throwing out more plus frame moves in hopes you press buttons.
I just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ a negan up like 7-0 because he only did that. But I didn't press any buttons so I win I win I win.

If i block his all moves and don't attack, he gain plus frame and i can never punish him

[Iosefka V2]

Ryoda a écrit :

Dear Agony a écrit :

If i block his all moves and don't attack, he gain plus frame and i can never punish him

That's where movement comes in. Make space and step to the sides. Negan has rather many linear moves.
Just check out the moves that give you trouble in practice mode and find a way to beat em.
Pressing buttons isn't the only option you have, you actually have many many options.
And pressing buttons on plus frames is obviously never good.

But i am Anna.My Character is ultra agressive however she has worst punish moves.I can't punish him.Thats the problem