Steve Back 1

[Judaka]

I am struggling against Steve who just spam this move in between scuffles, it's very oppressive and I'm just trading hits but getting CH launched all day. How can I use moves against Steve without making it easy for him to b1 me?

[TequilaSunrise]

Don't attack Steve when you are at minus frames, or even at plus frames unless you do a move that would come out faster than b1 for sure. You may break this rule if you attack with a high crushing move when you expect b1.
Also don't always attack if you expect the b1 just play smarter and bait it but simply duck under and punish if you can.
Who do you play?

[Judaka]

I play Gigas and Bryan, I find Steve much harder on Gigas because when Bryan I can just return the CH game.

[TequilaSunrise]

Originally posted by Judaka:

I play Gigas and Bryan, I find Steve much harder on Gigas because when Bryan I can just return the CH game.

Oh, then I don't have any specific tech as I don't know much Gigas.
Look for his high crushing moves in rbnorway frame data, the moves that say TC(technical crush). He must have a few. I think his low arm swing is one.(the one that knocks down on ch).

Also maybe you can use his power crush to armor through b1 and then launch him with the downward arm swing(d2?). I mean the armor move that is not an attack, that one has the purpose of powering through some moves so you can launch them on the recovery of their move.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by TequilaSunriseES:

TC(technically crouching)*

[TequilaSunrise]

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

Originally posted by TequilaSunriseES:

TC(technically crouching)*

Oh yeah, got it mixed up, anyway its still TC :P

[Judaka]

Yeah, maybe, however, Steve is often in my face and doing pokes rather than big moves. I will try it anyway, I am not sure if Gigas has many high crush moves... Nothing fast enough to use in front of a character but maybe I'm wrong, I'll research a bit.

Gigas armor is pretty bad, very linear, unsafe and too slow to use in close range haha. I do enjoy doing my armor with Bryan vs Steve but yea, idk for Gigas.

[TequilaSunrise]

Originally posted by Judaka:

Yeah, maybe, however, Steve is often in my face and doing pokes rather than big moves. I will try it anyway, I am not sure if Gigas has many high crush moves... Nothing fast enough to use in front of a character but maybe I'm wrong, I'll research a bit.

Gigas armor is pretty bad, very linear, unsafe and too slow to use in close range haha. I do enjoy doing my armor with Bryan vs Steve but yea, idk for Gigas.

Not that armor move I think, I mean the one where he does that stance like saying hit me if you dare. The one that does nothing. If you know they are going to attack you you can use that move to launch them after powering through their attack.

[Judaka]

Oh yeah my first comments were in referrence to that, I don't usually use it much but when I do, it's against people who are doing long range moves. I don't know if it will work against Steve when he's in my face like he is but I'll give it a try 4 sure.