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Anoyun? Mar 9, 2020 @ 9:06pm
LAG SWITCHING
is lag switching a myth or a real thing?
coz i fight a dude every time i lunched him or doing pressure i got lag so bad i drop the combo.
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poop Mar 9, 2020 @ 10:07pm 
Of course it's real. It's the most low tech cheat ever. And there are tons of ways to do it. Could literally be a switch put on one of the wires of an ethernet cable. Could be an app for limiting net usage. Could be someone putting a foil hat on their wifi antenna.
Considering the Online is still PeerToPeer
poop Mar 10, 2020 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Considering the Online is still PeerToPeer

Servers don't do any better at handling lag. Players freezing then zipping across the map is worse than just making everything slower. Also they suffer from peekers advantage. In Tekken that would basically mean whoever attacks first is always ahead of the other person.
Originally posted by poop:
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Considering the Online is still PeerToPeer

Servers don't do any better at handling lag. Players freezing then zipping across the map is worse than just making everything slower. Also they suffer from peekers advantage. In Tekken that would basically mean whoever attacks first is always ahead of the other person.

Wrong. It's whoever is the Host since PeerToPeer is mostly Host Advantage.
Tekken 7 has no Actual Servers to br exact.
poop Mar 10, 2020 @ 1:58am 
Yeah that's what peer to peer means, no server.

And no there is no host advantage or else the host wouldn't have to worry about using safe moves as much as the other player. But we all know punishing works for both players the same. FYI this game has hybrid netcode with rollbacks, always has.
JTFish Mar 10, 2020 @ 3:48am 
If you encounter a Russian Brian. Chances are the connection will suddenly go to 1 bar if you launch them. It's always the Russian Brians.
RKoz¦90N Mar 10, 2020 @ 6:03am 
Nah, it's just bad wifi combined with bad netcode.
FerSantander (Banned) Mar 10, 2020 @ 7:07am 
Lag switching was more common during the t6-tag2 console days. I must have run into just one in t7 on PC since season1.

The problem in t7 on PC has been from season 2 on, starting by the stupid easy ranking up for everyone, to the ability to save your rank locally, allowing lesser beings to do their thing.

The decision of taking out ranked list on season1 did also a lot of damage. Why do always legit deathmatch players have to pay for the sins of the lesser beings bosting?, we will always know who they are, but no no let's just kill the ranked list because of boosters, and let legit DM players to eat that one (developer thinking at its best).

♥♥♥♥ you Harada-Boy. F A CK U
Tshask Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by FerSantander:
Lag switching was more common during the t6-tag2 console days. I must have run into just one in t7 on PC since season1.

The problem in t7 on PC has been from season 2 on, starting by the stupid easy ranking up for everyone, to the ability to save your rank locally, allowing lesser beings to do their thing.

The decision of taking out ranked list on season1 did also a lot of damage. Why do always legit deathmatch players have to pay for the sins of the lesser beings bosting?, we will always know who they are, but no no let's just kill the ranked list because of boosters, and let legit DM players to eat that one (developer thinking at its best).

♥♥♥♥ you Harada-Boy. F A CK U

Lesser beings :D
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Originally posted by poop:

Servers don't do any better at handling lag. Players freezing then zipping across the map is worse than just making everything slower. Also they suffer from peekers advantage. In Tekken that would basically mean whoever attacks first is always ahead of the other person.

Wrong. It's whoever is the Host since PeerToPeer is mostly Host Advantage.
Tekken 7 has no Actual Servers to br exact.

"since PeerToPeer is mostly Host Advantage"

host advantage? What are you talking about?

The point of using peer to peer networking in a fighting game exactly that this networking handles both end equally so there is no advantage on either side .

I have gone up against several players who has had questionable lag only when they are up in the air or whenever it can give them some kind of advantage.
Given that the game is P2P it wouldnt surprise me if there are a bunch of lagswitchers since you can easily build one for less than 5€
xunlaiAgent Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by poop:
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Considering the Online is still PeerToPeer

Servers don't do any better at handling lag. Players freezing then zipping across the map is worse than just making everything slower. Also they suffer from peekers advantage. In Tekken that would basically mean whoever attacks first is always ahead of the other person.

That jumping would only appear on the screen of the laggers.
Last edited by xunlaiAgent; Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:41am
Originally posted by xunlaiAgent:
Originally posted by RKoz:
Nah, it's just bad wifi combined with bad netcode.

Netcode is fine. It's just that most people have horrible budget connections.

Sadly its not just that.

Connection can be affected a lot by the local infrastructure also.

Even an 1000Mbitconnection can be crap if those few hundred meters wires and switches/hubs on the street are not maintained properly to the main access point in the area by the ISP creating errors on the network.

Because bandwith are not affected so much of the errors due to the correcting algorithm nobody will realize there are issues unless they are an expert or just gamers who can feel these lag spikes but it will create jitter and maybe packet loss also.

My experience is that most of the internet user think their "premium" high bandwith connection must be good because their download speeds are almost unaffected so it must be perfect also for online gaming while its not always the case.
Last edited by in memoriam of Sharky; Mar 11, 2020 @ 6:07am
Longevity Mar 12, 2020 @ 3:48pm 
lag switching is alive and well
Anoyun? Mar 12, 2020 @ 3:54pm 
its not a myth is a real thing.
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