Is King's 2nd rage art tourney legal?

[Schizm]

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, king as a costume called Okada, when you have all 3 pieces equipped it changes his rage art. At first I thought ofc its tourney legal its just an animation change right? But not it actually has a mechanical difference, you actually end up on the opposite side to where you used it. So theoretically using this while your against a wall would put them to the wall.

This costume is easily selectable without using costume slots and I have seen alternate costumes at tourneys before. So is it legal to use or is there a rule against it, not that I'm going to enter tourneys I'm just curious.

[Kinoe]

Is the costume a preset? If yes, then it's probably legal. If you have to go to customisation for it then it's not legal.

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Kinoe:

Is the costume a preset? If yes, then it's probably legal. If you have to go to customisation for it then it's not legal.

Its a preset.

[Dave]

It doesn't change anything besides the animation. There's no damage change, there's no frame change.

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Dave:

It doesn't change anything besides the animation. There's no damage change, there's no frame change.

Did you not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read what I wrote? There is a difference, its positional change which is a difference. And that's no insignificant difference having your back against a wall is bad.

When you use kings base rage art on the left side of the screen it ends with you still being on the left side of the screen. If you use Kings Okada rage art on the left side of the screen you end up on the right side of the screen.

[Dave]

Originally posted by Schizm:

Originally posted by Dave:

It doesn't change anything besides the animation. There's no damage change, there's no frame change.

Did you not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read what I wrote? There is a difference, its positional change which is a difference. And that's no insignificant difference having your back against a wall is bad.

When you use kings base rage art on the left side of the screen it ends with you still being on the left side of the screen. If you use Kings Okada rage art on the left side of the screen you end up on the right side of the screen.

First of all, you don't have to get mad. Second of all, something like that shouldn't be a big problem if you're playing in a tournament, just because it side switches doesn't mean it should be illegal in a tournament. If that really was a problem it would have been banned long ago, or every King player would be using it. You're overthinking it.

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by Schizm:

Did you not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read what I wrote? There is a difference, its positional change which is a difference. And that's no insignificant difference having your back against a wall is bad.

When you use kings base rage art on the left side of the screen it ends with you still being on the left side of the screen. If you use Kings Okada rage art on the left side of the screen you end up on the right side of the screen.

First of all, you don't have to get mad. Second of all, something like that shouldn't be a big problem if you're playing in a tournament, just because it side switches doesn't mean it should be illegal in a tournament. If that really was a problem it would have been banned long ago, or every King player would be using it. You're overthinking it.

Not really, it would be more beneficial on certain staged and against certain match ups and its not something other characters have. Characters who have a ton of wall carry for example.

I also have never seen this costume used in tourneys hence why I'm asking.

[Kinoe]

Originally posted by Schizm:

Originally posted by Dave:

First of all, you don't have to get mad. Second of all, something like that shouldn't be a big problem if you're playing in a tournament, just because it side switches doesn't mean it should be illegal in a tournament. If that really was a problem it would have been banned long ago, or every King player would be using it. You're overthinking it.

Not really, it would be more beneficial on certain staged and against certain match ups and its not something other characters have. Characters who have a ton of wall carry for example.

I also have never seen this costume used in tourneys hence why I'm asking.

It might be benificial with VERY specific situations, positions, and match-up, but those situations would probably happen once in a lifetime. So it makes sense if no one uses it.

[pablonesmrtelny]

That is a nice twist to the RA.

I'd argue that RA that KEEPS the position is better than one that switches it since RA is most of the time used as a combo ender anyways, right?

Right now as it is you can not calculate with it. Sometimes you want to side switch sometimes you don't. If you could CHOOSE on the fly which RA to do - that would be clearly better than normal RA and there would be no reason not to use it - but it is balanced when you have to choose before the match starts.