Nina´s iWS1

[Kiqsu]

Hey guys hope you are doing well. I am starting to really learn Tekken and I am having some difficulty on doing Nina´s iWS1. I can do several on a standing opponent but I cant never do more than one on an actual combo. It either comes out as a uf+1, a qcf+1 or I just miss the char completely.
I think it is because of the timing but I was looking for tips from you guys on how I can improve on that aspect and actually manage to do more than one, since it is pretty nice for wall carry.

Sorry if it is a noob question and for taking your time. Thanks!

[TequilaSunrise]

I don't use Nina but tried to do them on practice and while I could do them very fast with enough practice, I could not get them to connect one after another in a combo.
The notation is qcf~u/f~1
But it is not only about doing it fast. It only work from certain launchers or positionings.

Gotta ask somebody who mains Nina or investigate further, but I do know you can't just use any launcher and get them to work outright. It's situational.

Also it's quite the finger twister, I don't envy Nina mains xD.

[Kiqsu]

I main Nina since I started playing and done some research on her moves, useful combos,etc. Therefore I have a good understanding of which
launchers I can use and how to actually do the iWS1.

The problem is really doing several in a row xD.
Thanks for answering!

[VJLU]

I assume you don't know, that you have to sidestep right before to combo with iws1 here is pretty good example. For miss inputs, just start doing it slow on practice to get it right, With repetition you should find correct timing
Nina video

[TequilaSunrise]

Originally posted by Kiqsu:

I main Nina since I started playing and done some research on her moves, useful combos,etc. Therefore I have a good understanding of which
launchers I can use and how to actually do the iWS1.

The problem is really doing several in a row xD.
Thanks for answering!

Well I think I could do them fast enough to combo, my fingers actually hurt after so much trying. But I didn't know which launchers do work so in the end it was futile. I remember doing them in combos on Tekken 6.

For me using the ball of the finger(thumb) works better, I use d-pad(ps4). Then it's just about figuring the timing and repeating it unlimited times until it becomes second nature xD.
If you get qcf1 or uf1 it's because you either didn't do all the correct inputs, or you did it too fast and she hadn't recovered from last move.
Use the show input commands feature to see where you mess up.
That's all the advice I can offer, I bet there's some Nina mains who can help way better.

I main Julia so qcf motions are kinda second nature, it was a matter of adding uf1 to the mix, and while it sounds simple, it really is a workout for the thumb on a pad lol.

[Kiqsu]

Originally posted by VJLU:

I assume you don't know, that you have to sidestep right before to combo with iws1 here is pretty good example. For miss inputs, just start doing it slow on practice to get it right, With repetition you should find correct timing
Nina video

Yes I do know that I have to sidestep before to combo. Like I said I have done some research and practiced a lot. The only thing I am having difficulty is doing multiple iWS1. For example I can do uf+1,2 , SS1 , db+2 , iWs1 (sorry if there are notation errors).
I will try to find the right timing which I think is when Nina's about to "stand up".
Thanks for helping! Already seen that video but I will take a closer look of it

[Kiqsu]

Originally posted by TequilaSunriseES:

Originally posted by Kiqsu:

I main Nina since I started playing and done some research on her moves, useful combos,etc. Therefore I have a good understanding of which
launchers I can use and how to actually do the iWS1.

The problem is really doing several in a row xD.
Thanks for answering!

Well I think I could do them fast enough to combo, my fingers actually hurt after so much trying. But I didn't know which launchers do work so in the end it was futile. I remember doing them in combos on Tekken 6.

For me using the ball of the finger(thumb) works better, I use d-pad(ps4). Then it's just about figuring the timing and repeating it unlimited times until it becomes second nature xD.
If you get qcf1 or uf1 it's because you either didn't do all the correct inputs, or you did it too fast and she hadn't recovered from last move.
Use the show input commands feature to see where you mess up.
That's all the advice I can offer, I bet there's some Nina mains who can help way better.

I main Julia so qcf motions are kinda second nature, it was a matter of adding uf1 to the mix, and while it sounds simple, it really is a workout for the thumb on a pad lol.

Thanks for the reply. I also use the thumb since it is much easier that way and sometimes I can do it really fast. I will practice harder until I get the hang of it :P

Thanks a lot!

[TequilaSunrise]

Originally posted by Kiqsu:

Thanks for the reply. I also use the thumb since it is much easier that way and sometimes I can do it really fast. I will practice harder until I get the hang of it :P

Thanks a lot!

No problem! I'm not native english so I may not be able to explain this well, but try to think of it as a single motion, don't do qcf and then the uf1.
Think of it as just sliding your finger upwards to the uf while doing the motions, You can get it to come faster once you get the hang of it.

as if it were an incomplete half circle motion.

[Kiqsu]

Originally posted by TequilaSunriseES:

Originally posted by Kiqsu:

Thanks for the reply. I also use the thumb since it is much easier that way and sometimes I can do it really fast. I will practice harder until I get the hang of it :P

Thanks a lot!

No problem! I'm not native english so I may not be able to explain this well, but try to think of it as a single motion, don't do qcf and then the uf1.
Think of it as just sliding your finger upwards to the uf while doing the motions, You can get it to come faster once you get the hang of it.

as if it were an incomplete half circle motion.

Thanks. That is what I actually do and since I play with a pad the "sliding" of the thumb is easier imo. I will practice it a lot more and I will try out different inputs for it until I finally manage to do it ;P

[LS]

I found qcf*1 to be the most consistent method on pad . There really is no need to add the u/f motion.

The reason you are getting qcf+1 is because you are not letting go of the pad fast enough before pressing 1. Try to keep that in the back of your mind. Always release the pad completely before inputing 1.

Also the point isn't how fast you do it, it's all about timing and rhythm.

If you do it too fast and before Nina has recovered from the last iWS1, the game will read your input as f+1 which will end up in a jab.

Keep practicing and suddenly you will do iWS1s pretty consistantly.

Edit: By pad i mean directional buttons

[Kiqsu]

Originally posted by L.:

I found qcf*1 to be the most consistent method on pad . There really is no need to add the u/f motion.

The reason you are getting qcf+1 is because you are not letting go of the pad fast enough before pressing 1. Try to keep that in the back of your mind. Always release the pad completely before inputing 1.

Also the point isn't how fast you do it, it's all about timing and rhythm.

If you do it too fast and before Nina has recovered from the last iWS1, the game will read your input as f+1 which will end up in a jab.

Keep practicing and suddenly you will do iWS1s pretty consistantly.

Edit: By pad i mean directional buttons

Thanks will try it out. I do know that have go release the pad before I press 1 but it seems when I am doing a combo I get "nervous" and try to rush it.

Thanks I will practice harder!

[armabe]

Minor comment which may or may not be any use. I don't play Nina, but I do use iWS moves with Lee. And the way I do it is d, df (like 2nd part of a DP motion, like Akuma or Eliza). I also hold the df, so it's more of a d, df+2 input I guess.
I do not know this is in any way helpful for Nina though.

[Iosefka V2]

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[Wavekid]

Idk i've been doin wavedash while standing moves since tekken 3 but im doing it too fast out of being used to, i kinda do a qcf with a slight neutral then the button, hope it helps

Also if you are 100% input accurate you can just do db n 1 easiest motion hardest execution because you are not actually tricking the game or the buffer you just crouchin for a split second and doin ws1 the regular way but at speed of light, not recommended

[Kiqsu]

Originally posted by Fabristorm:

Idk i've been doin wavedash while standing moves since tekken 3 but im doing it too fast out of being used to, i kinda do a qcf with a slight neutral then the button, hope it helps

Also if you are 100% input accurate you can just do db n 1 easiest motion hardest execution because you are not actually tricking the game or the buffer you just crouchin for a split second and doin ws1 the regular way but at speed of light, not recommended

Thanks!