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The entirety of your post is completely subjective.
If Tekken 7 isn't on par with previous entries because no time attack or survival then ♥♥♥♥ me, I've been playing this game wrong all along.
Scenario mode isn't really an argument here. When Tekken 6 launched, a lot of people criticized the scenario campaign. People already thought Devil Within was disappointing, and everybody shat on Death by Degrees. They just decided to try something new.
But of course, this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ community hates on stuff, and when they change it they act as if they always loved it and hate on the new stuff.
This is why Harada gets mad on Twitter, people are absolute hypocritical ♥♥♥♥♥ who just want to hate. This is the same with missing characters, very few people played them, a lot even wanted them out, and when they're dismissed everyone throws a fit.
Oh and by the way, Harada never got mad when people wanted Mokujin, and he didn't get mad when people asked for Bruce. He got mad when ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiots spammed him with "wHErE's ZaFINa/LEi/aNNA ?!!!!11111!!!" on every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tweet.
As for customization, Tekken 6 wasn't perfect either. Very limited color palettes (which you had to buy individually lol) and everything was horribly expensive.
Apart from the crouching animation, they literally have nothing in common lol.
Yes, we said that. I'm both happy and annoyed I was wrong (I love AK, I hate all the others). And yet, who's the grateful one here ?
We didn't even ask for them, and I'm still grateful for them. YOU SPAMMED HARADA for them and now you still find a way to be mad about it.
♥♥♥♥ off. You idiots will NEVER be happy.
Okay, but I liked Scenario Campaign and Devil Within Mode in Tekken 5 so I dunno what you're so salty about. Objectively, ilk of those extra modes in Tekken 7 are absent in Tekken 7. We only have paid Bowling DLC whereas Tekken Bowl was in Tekken 5:DR and Tekken Tag Tournament base game. If me stating facts triggered you then that's not really my problem. Tekken 7 has less overall content, in terms of modes, customisation, characters at launch etc. but it was still the same price. It's objectively an inferior product. It's only saving grace is its competitive community and game balance.
I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about him railing on someone for using a sad emoji when asking for Ganryu. Saying something like, he only listens to positive feedback
I never said it was perfect, just that there were more options. You could choose individual hair pieces and even things like your character's shoes. It was a more robust customisation system.
I have a particular liking to those games, especially Death by Degrees. In fact, I wouldn't entirely play Nina if it wasn't for that one specific game.
The scenario mode for T6 could potentially induce Namco to create separate, standalone games for certain characters like Death by Degrees.
The hate for these great contents reminds me of those punks back in the mid 2000s were they hated great bands like Limp Bizkit & especially Nickelback. They weren't entirely bad but since public opinions can now circulate uncontrollably all over the world, it's easy to conduct group movements & invite people to jump in on their bandwagons.
Harada doesn't have to cater the needs of those haters by ignoring creating unique contents like Devil Within, Scenario Mode & particularly Death by Degrees. In fact, those said contents are immeasurably incomparable to that abomination of a game called Street Fighter vs Tekken. If he can make ungodly crap like that, I'm sure he can make the exact opposite.
With that being said, if Tekken vs Street Fighter ever sees the light of day, I swear on everything that is holy...
I know that, I was talking about the majority of people who fit my description. If you don't apply to this then I'm not talking about you. Sorry if you misinterpreted it.
I love when people go into this turtle shell mode like "It's not the case for me so obviously it's not true". "I like Scenario Campaign so literally EVERYBODY loved it it's mathematical". This is like a Tekken 4 fan (it's totally okay np) saying Tekken 4 was absolutely loved by the community. As for the modes missing, I never said this wasn't true, but what you don't seem to understand is that it doesn't make Tekken an inferior product, at all. It does, for you. That's it, that's completely subjective. This isn't about "stating facts", this is about understanding you're not the single damn person on the planet. What if I told you a lot of people would say that Tekken 7 ♥♥♥♥♥ on Tekken 6 ? I would gladly trade these modes for such a polished sexy looking game.
First off, source. Second, context is very important. If Harada is tweeting about a tournament, or something like that, then shut the ♥♥♥♥ up, it's not really the place for that. Third, how about you try living an entire year with people repeating the same ♥♥♥♥ to you, over and over and over and over and over and over again even though you already gave them an answer ?
You should try getting out of your bubble for a second, you clearly haven't though about this subject as much as you want to make it look like.
"It's only saving grace is its competitive community and game balance." That's a pretty much a big ass "Hey people actually prefer this game" sign but sure, we're all just stupid peasants who like an objectively inferior game. Tell me when you're done jacking off.
I'm not saying a fighting game is automatically better by including more characters. The point I was making was that Tekken 6, objectively had more content which in part, is having more characters. The only thing that "bothers" me about Tekken 7's roster is the 2D guest characters. I don't even mind them selling Legacy Characters, they cost money to make and they did an amazing job recreating them, bringing them to life again. I just find it slightly disappointing they nostalgia bait with the trailers implying they have some story significance and then they aren't even bothered to animate a single cutscene for them. SoulCalibur added Amy and they gave her a story mode (granted, it's just pictures but that's more down to SC's style).
You're inferring assertions that aren't even there. I was just pointing out that I'm not one of those people that fit your description. I liked the single player content in Tekken. I'm aware that I'm a minority. I'm over the fact that Bandai Namco don't care about that demographic anymore since it's not as profitable to them as eSports. They're not wrong to go after money, it's the nature of such a company.
A simple would've been fine as a response
This is the Tweet I was talking about; Harada's ego getting hurt coz someone used a frowny face lol. He wasn't tweeting about anything else, he directly replied to a mention. Edit: Here's another one where he replies to another reply on a thread mentioning him lol. Again, he can't handle negativity XD.
One thing I will say, at least Harada/Tekken Team is consistent with their vision for the series now with the whole eSports thing. They don't cater to opposing sides. They just go where the money is and where the majority (seemingly) is.
Remember, I'm stating my opinion. There's no need to be so toxic and get salty because there exists another human being with an opposing opinion to your own. I am empathetic to eSports nerds so I'd expect some empathy back but hey, this community doesn't really want to grow in any sort of way. It doesn't care that the game isn't approachable to actual newcomers or that there's no other grab than the online. That's okay. 'suppose, most of those potential new players wouldn't stay too long anyway.
I think you're reading too much into things. Sure, there's a hint of sarcasm in some places in what I've written but it's all tongue-in-cheek, really. I've already gone through the 7 stages of grief with Tekken and reached "acceptance" XD
I've moved on, and now my grievances lie with Dead or Alive 6 :D
Tekken 7 has more stages. Tekken 7 added more characters in a single entry. Tekken 7 added many more new mechanics. Tekken 7 added new designs for characters. Tekken 7 added personnalized profiles and health bars. Tekken 7 added a ♥♥♥♥ ton of new animations for clarity. Tekken 7 has a new story mode that involves flashbacks and direct fights. Tekken 7 has more bosses. Tekken 7 has a lootbox mode. Tekken 7 has customizable character screens. Tekken 7 has a Jukebox mode and multiple legacy costumes (On PS4). Tekken 7 has a gallery mode to view old game cinematics and intros. Do you see where I'm getting ?
You not fitting to that description does not change the fact the description is a damn thing. But you thinking "Namco doesn't have the same way of thinking as me, obviously their product is automatically inferior, therefore everyone is wrong and I am right" is what causes an issue here. Hey buddy, just because a game doesn't go the way YOU want it, doesn't make it an inferior game.
He ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ railed on that man ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, he ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ killed her dude. Seriously ? What the ♥♥♥♥ do you want him to say ? Yeah, he wants his Twitter to be positive. What's so wrong about that ? Jesus christ, call the police this man wants to be POSITIVE WHAT A MAD MAN ! You're as sensitive as a damn glass dude. Even the person he apparently railed on took it completely well. Oh and also, disliking negativity and not being to handle negative feedback are two different things, and Harada definitely doesn't fit in the second one. But clearly you're not here to spew venom wherever possible. No no, you're just stating F A C T S.
Objectively [adverb] : in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. You're seeing it's an objectively inferior product. No you're not "stating your opinion", you're saying your opinion is undoubtedly and absolutely the truth. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ not.
7 stages of grief, jesus christ. Don't worry Time Attack will come back.
In case you don't get it:
-Stating an opinion is not saying "This is inferior but people can like it if they want", that's basically saying "Hey I am right, but you all have ♥♥♥♥ taste so ♥♥♥♥ y'all, peasants".
-No, Tekken 6 is not objectively superior. Very far from that. Go tell anybody who isn't interested in offline modes such as these that Tekken 6 is objectively superior, they won't even laugh at you, they will literally just turn away.
-Go open a dictionnary, and learn the meaning of objectively, and then search for subjectively. Tekken 6 is SUBJECTIVELY superior for YOU, because it fulfills what Tekken 7 can't for YOU. But guess what, just because something doesn't work out perfectly for you, doesn't automatically mean it's objectively inferior, it could just be that it doesn't work perfectly for you.
But anyway, that's all a bit tangential. I miss the deeper customisation in Tekken 6/TTT2 is all. I also know there are others that feel the same way due to the disappointment expressed when they announced the Second Batch of Free DLC was just missing items from TTT2.
Again, you're inferring my thoughts just so you can rant about it lol. It's more like "Namco has changed the direction of the game to focus on things I don't like as much so it's no longer for me and that's disappointing because I was heavily invested in the series". You can enjoy the game if you want. I don't mind that other people like it. I just prefer when the content spread was more even and everyone was catered too. If we had Tekken 6 with Tekken 7 balance, I don't think anyone would complain. More interesting Stages, more varied characters with proper fighting styles, Mokujin, and a healthy selection of offline content too.
>accusing someone of "spewing venom" whilst being the most toxic person on teh internetz
So, you don't think he overreacted to a meager ":("? okay...
Okay, the objective part is that, Tekken 6 had deeper customisation options, more offline modes, and more characters at launch.
- Arcade Battle
- Ghost Battle
- Team Battle
- Time Attack
- Survival
*Not counting Vs coz it's vs Player onlyPractice
**Side Note Scenario Mode offered a lot of content too
- Arcade Battle
- Treasure Battle
- Practice
*Not counting Vs coz it's vs Player onlyConsidering they're launch at the same price that is what makes it "objectively" a better game because you're getting more options for the same price. However, the subjective part is down to whether you care about those extra bits. Like, Tekken 7 has more stages so technically it has more content in that regard but, for me, I still prefer Tekken 6 stages because they were more varied in tone/theme and colour palettes.
I really don't know why we're debating my opinion tho XD.
In case you didn't get it, I was being flippant. I think you're taking everything I write way too seriously XD
- Like I've already addressed, there are areas in which Tekken 6 excels Tekken 7 (but whether or not those areas matter to people is the subjective part). I wouldn't disparage anyone for liking Tekken 7, it is a good game at its core, it just doesn't have the range and scope of content I would expect from a Tekken game (but to its merit, it is definitely more balanced).
- If you're looking for a game which caters to anyone that isn't an eSports fanatic, Tekken 6 has more varied content. Like previously stated, the balance is crazy off in it, I'm not allergic to facts like that but I still had more fun because there was variety. In Tekken 7 they basically force you to either play online matches or sit in practice. Great. Except that even if you do sit in practice (which is a very impressive, robust mode), you can't search for matches. There are little QoL changes they could make which would make the game extremely better than it is.
- I am aware of the definitions of which you speak. I have used a "dictionnary" before.
Basically, all I'm trying to say is; why is it that they either make a game with tons of varied content or a game with paltry content but good balance? Why not have a happy medium and have a game with content to appeal to both crowds? Does that not make more business sense?That's not being objective. That's a biased comparison where you only list the pros of Tekken 6 and cons of Tekken 7.
This is the exact opposite of an objective comparison. Dude, your criterias for a good game are not objective. How hard is this to actually understand ?
No, no you clearly don't understand the meaning of "Objectively".
"I really don't know why we're debating my opinion tho XD." Because you don't know how to properly use a dictionnary apparently.
"However, the subjective part is down to whether you care about those extra bits." No, no that's literally the objective part. You can't say that when you list only the things you care about then you're being objective, but when you list the "extra bits" then you're being subjective. Listing every single pros and cons and doing a complete and equitable comparison, that's being objective; which you clearly aren't doing.
You're taking issue with something I've said and reframing it as your argument when I was the one to state it initially lol.
Note, the usage of 1st person pronouns indicating it is an opinion belonging to me. It is my opinion and I have stated it as such.
Okay, so you do that. I'm waiting.
Without Sequel etc.
Let's try this again.
Objectively : in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. See the contradiction here, amigo ?
What would that serve ? If I did you would say that the pros you missed from Tekken 7 and cons from Tekken 6 are entirely subjective, and that they shouldn't be treated objectively ? Isn't that what you already did with the stages ? I already gave you a huge damn list of things Tekken 7 did way better than Tekken 6, and you just completely ignored it and proceeded to do your horrible half assed biased comparison. Because you refuse to understand that your comprehension of the word "Objectively" is similar to a 7yo who just found it on the dictionary and started using it everywhere.