Female Characters

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Does anyone else think that a lot of the female characters in tekken were designed to be gimmicky just so that women could have some success at the game without learning much? I mean how else do you explain alisa, asuka, lili, xiaoyu, josie, and worst of all katarina?

I think this explains a lot of the cancer in tekken and other games. Like Karen in SF and peach in melee if anyone plays those.

[EX Fighter]

The majority of women would be frightened at the thought of spending hundreds of hours to get good at an intricate video game. So, this seemed to be the dev's solution on how to avoid shying away their potential female players.

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Don't let looks fool you.

Asuka is the visual garbage reiteration of Jun.

And Josie is a stupid model replacement for Bruce.

Those were blasphemous to such solid & real characters.

[Froz7y]

They think by doing this, they will attract female players. Personally the Tekken female players i have met played Lars,Jin and Drugnov. They like struggle and they are exceptional girls, their character being hard motivates them to be better and make them feel like they earned it.

Namco really has the wrong perception, the more they do this, they will discourage actual good female players and encourage a really scrubby play style, they will never learn or get better because of the constant hand holding. Not to mention its the male players who will mostly take advantage of this rather than the female players.

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Originally posted by Not Cool:

Does anyone else think that a lot of the female characters in tekken were designed to be gimmicky just so that women could have some success at the game without learning much? I mean how else do you explain alisa, asuka, lili, xiaoyu, josie, and worst of all katarina?

I think this explains a lot of the cancer in tekken and other games. Like Karen in SF and peach in melee if anyone plays those.

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

I dont like raven, josey, chloe and ling. I mean look at chloe (especially ant theyre mains XD) if you saw the last tournament you know already wich guys play chloe :D

I mean if you know her moveset you can just rekt the fack out of her but if youre not playing that long youre getting rekt hard, her moves and the dmg she does....holy. Katarinas low leg chip dmg XD

Ling´s most of the time spam you to death play 1 round against them then leave em alone.

[EX Fighter]

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Originally posted by Not Cool:

Does anyone else think that a lot of the female characters in tekken were designed to be gimmicky just so that women could have some success at the game without learning much? I mean how else do you explain alisa, asuka, lili, xiaoyu, josie, and worst of all katarina?

I think this explains a lot of the cancer in tekken and other games. Like Karen in SF and peach in melee if anyone plays those.

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

Kazumi is still easy mode, though.
Punishing almost everything with 1+2 carried me from Fighter all the way to Destroyer (back when I couldn't get past Usurper with Mishimas).

Her hellsweep is also insanely good because it makes opponents scared of lows when in reality pretty much all of her good moves are mids.
Oh yeah, don't forget wr+2, it's wonderful, especially against people that don't respect it. Give yourself some space in a wall stage against an agressive opponent and wr+2 basically demolishes them.

In short, her execution is very lenient, her gameplan is very simple, her damage is very good (while not even being centered at combos). Very user-friendly character coupled with very high rewards.

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Originally posted by Vintage Cyborg:

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

Kazumi is still easy mode, though.
Punishing almost everything with 1+2 carried me from Fighter all the way to Destroyer (back when I couldn't get past Usurper with Mishimas).

Her hellsweep is also insanely good because it makes opponents scared of lows when in reality pretty much all of her good moves are mids.
Oh yeah, don't forget wr+2, it's wonderful, especially against people that don't respect it. Give yourself some space in a wall stage against an agressive opponent and wr+2 basically demolishes them.

In short, her execution is very lenient, her gameplan is very simple, her damage is very good (while not even being centered at combos). Very user-friendly character coupled with very high rewards.

You mean the "hellsweep" that you have to f3+4 4 ? xD Oof disqualified. If you ever played with ppl in lobby youre getting rekt :D the 2 option hits more often or you get a move like jin´s f4 XD oh sure you can start with f3 aaand jab interupted.

Easy to play against newbs yes. Not so much against good players then it gets harder cause she pretty straight forward. 1,1,2 is the main punisher and 1+2 is good too. But oh well i gues you like many other ppl like to spam button mash yeah then even df2 hits XD

[karva heitto]

Originally posted by Vintage Cyborg:

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

Kazumi is still easy mode, though.
Punishing almost everything with 1+2 carried me from Fighter all the way to Destroyer (back when I couldn't get past Usurper with Mishimas).

Her hellsweep is also insanely good because it makes opponents scared of lows when in reality pretty much all of her good moves are mids.
Oh yeah, don't forget wr+2, it's wonderful, especially against people that don't respect it. Give yourself some space in a wall stage against an agressive opponent and wr+2 basically demolishes them.

In short, her execution is very lenient, her gameplan is very simple, her damage is very good (while not even being centered at combos). Very user-friendly character coupled with very high rewards.

You do know wr+2 is -5 ob, right?

[Pasta]

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

*cough* FFF2 *cough*

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Originally posted by Pasta Senpai:

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

*cough* FFF2 *cough*

Letz have a look at julia Bow&Arrow, tons of mixups (before you smarta** "thats easy blockable i wanne see that or it never happend)

good punishers i would even say better then kazumi, Katarina ezpz only in high levels you need real good skill, Lucky chloe (youre too slow welcome to pain city).

I wonder was youre main is DJ XD or even better Kazuya (hellsweep, hellsweep and so on) even pros cant block that much too easy move.

With Kazumy you need to be very very carefull or youre launched even with the db4 welcome to launch city, df2 unsafer isnt possible :D

Btw *cough cough* BLOCK/Patiance (on block launch UUuuuuUU) *cough*N**B* excuse* if you get hit by WR2 you tried to challange that move and as i read between youre lines you always lose *cough* /slowclap :D

Originally posted by Solid:

Originally posted by Vintage Cyborg:

Kazumi is still easy mode, though.
Punishing almost everything with 1+2 carried me from Fighter all the way to Destroyer (back when I couldn't get past Usurper with Mishimas).

Her hellsweep is also insanely good because it makes opponents scared of lows when in reality pretty much all of her good moves are mids.
Oh yeah, don't forget wr+2, it's wonderful, especially against people that don't respect it. Give yourself some space in a wall stage against an agressive opponent and wr+2 basically demolishes them.

In short, her execution is very lenient, her gameplan is very simple, her damage is very good (while not even being centered at combos). Very user-friendly character coupled with very high rewards.

You do know wr+2 is -5 ob, right?

Its so obvious he doesnt know its pretty sidesteppable and punishable overall. /facepalm

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Chloe is best girl.

[Seared Bite]

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Originally posted by Not Cool:

Does anyone else think that a lot of the female characters in tekken were designed to be gimmicky just so that women could have some success at the game without learning much? I mean how else do you explain alisa, asuka, lili, xiaoyu, josie, and worst of all katarina?

I think this explains a lot of the cancer in tekken and other games. Like Karen in SF and peach in melee if anyone plays those.

Iam glad you didnt put Kazumi in there <3 the only gimmick she has is 3+4 f or b but youre defance is wide open while doing it.

I dont like raven, josey, chloe and ling. I mean look at chloe (especially ant theyre mains XD) if you saw the last tournament you know already wich guys play chloe :D

I mean if you know her moveset you can just rekt the fack out of her but if youre not playing that long youre getting rekt hard, her moves and the dmg she does....holy. Katarinas low leg chip dmg XD

Ling´s most of the time spam you to death play 1 round against them then leave em alone.

I never really feel cheated out of a win fighting kazumi like I do with someone like xiaoyu. She's pretty honest, albeit easy to play. I don't think the devs designed heihachi's wife with the same intentions as they designed jin's loli waifu lol.

[Pasta]

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Originally posted by Solid:

You do know wr+2 is -5 ob, right?

Its so obvious he doesnt know its pretty sidesteppable and punishable overall. /facepalm

Sorry i didnt see that part. 'Pretty sidesteppable' is an overstatement.
And no its not -5 on block, its -4~-3. And why omit the part where it has great push back on block? You can pretty much control your opponent to the wall.
Do you actually use the move? Are you using it correctly?

[EX Fighter]

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Originally posted by Vintage Cyborg:

Kazumi is still easy mode, though.
Punishing almost everything with 1+2 carried me from Fighter all the way to Destroyer (back when I couldn't get past Usurper with Mishimas).

Her hellsweep is also insanely good because it makes opponents scared of lows when in reality pretty much all of her good moves are mids.
Oh yeah, don't forget wr+2, it's wonderful, especially against people that don't respect it. Give yourself some space in a wall stage against an agressive opponent and wr+2 basically demolishes them.

In short, her execution is very lenient, her gameplan is very simple, her damage is very good (while not even being centered at combos). Very user-friendly character coupled with very high rewards.

You mean the "hellsweep" that you have to f3+4 4 ? xD Oof disqualified. If you ever played with ppl in lobby youre getting rekt :D the 2 option hits more often or you get a move like jin´s f4 XD oh sure you can start with f3 aaand jab interupted.

Easy to play against newbs yes. Not so much against good players then it gets harder cause she pretty straight forward. 1,1,2 is the main punisher and 1+2 is good too. But oh well i gues you like many other ppl like to spam button mash yeah then even df2 hits XD

If you're able to randomly hit f3+4,2 against your opponent you're most likely facing a very bad and desperate player. And you say this hits more consistently than her hellsweep? Dude, this move is a -10 high. They're gonna jab your face as soon as it gets blocked.

Forgive me if I'm being too frank, but you seem totally clueless. Her hellsweep is a powerful tool because it makes your opponent consider blocking low when you're actually running in with a juicy mid.
The phrase you used to diss Mishimas (something like "hellsweep, hellsweep, so on") completely illustrates how very little you know about mixups.

And, excuse me, but the way in which you hold player lobbies in such high regard is just hilarious. If you ever plan to experience some sort of "competitive" enviroment you need to play Ranked. That's the place where people will exploit your flawed knowledge about the game (like your "ALL MISHIMAS NEED IZ HELLZSWEEPS!!1 idiotic line) for easy wins.

But of course, how would a clueless casual like you know any better? You even fail to comprehend what 'punishment' is:

Originally posted by K@TANA:

Its so obvious he doesnt know its pretty sidesteppable and punishable overall. /facepalm

Kiddo, I'll give you this lesson for free: Kazumi's wr+2 is NOT PUNISHABLE ON BLOCK. -5 is pretty damn safe, especialy considering how much you're pushed back by the move. Besides, the move may be steppable to the left, but this takes timing, and if you simply side walk it, you're gonna eat it. So, no it's not "easily punishable".

Furthermore, you said Kazumi 3+4 stance leaves her wide open. That's not true at all unless you're randomly using it from point blank. Throwing f3+4 along with some mids and wr+2 from range 2 is a very solid mixup. I'd suggest perfecting your backdash in order to use it. Or maybe not, just stick to player lobbies with your "good opponents" (AKA scrubby friends) and you'll be fine.

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asuka isnt even that good, peeps just make too many mistakes