Why do people quit from being whiff punished?

[Tottery]

Korean backdashing and whiff punishing is something I've been working on a lot as of late. I'm winning a lot more matches, but I noticed no one wants to play again after losing that way lol. Why is that? Is it because they can't just mash buttons and win anymore? I don't get it.

[Mike]

Nothing new here

[unclassified]

so you wonder why people dont rematch someone who, from the sound of it, runs away the whole time?

[Mike]

Originally posted by oppa:

so you wonder why people dont rematch someone who, from the sound of it, runs away the whole time?

You must be too lol

[unclassified]

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

Originally posted by oppa:

so you wonder why people dont rematch someone who, from the sound of it, runs away the whole time?

You must be too lol

i asked a question...how is that me being salty?

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by oppa:

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

You must be too lol

i asked a question...how is that me being salty?

yep, it's a legit question. if I don't enjoy the battle, I don't rematch, period. end of story. El Psy Kongroo.

[Mike]

Originally posted by oppa:

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

You must be too lol

i asked a question...how is that me being salty?

Because you relate whiff punishing to running away even though its a legit strat lol

[unclassified]

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

Originally posted by oppa:

i asked a question...how is that me being salty?

Because you relate whiff punishing to running away even though its a legit strat lol

i dont know what he does ingame..from the sound of it it seems like he is waiting/running away and being very passive. of course its legit and no one said anything else. but it doesnt surprise me when people dont want to rematch him...and i wonder why he is surprised.

as the guy above said..people want fun..when they dont get it out of a match they seek a other opponent. in his case it seems people have issue with the runaway/def aspect.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

Originally posted by oppa:

i asked a question...how is that me being salty?

Because you relate whiff punishing to running away even though its a legit strat lol

it doesn't matter if a strat is legit or not, rematch is based on if you want to fight the other player again or not.

[unclassified]

Originally posted by Shiki Ryougi:

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

Because you relate whiff punishing to running away even though its a legit strat lol

it doesn't matter if a strat is legit or not, rematch is based on if you want to fight the other player again or not.

indeed.

[Mike]

Originally posted by oppa:

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

Because you relate whiff punishing to running away even though its a legit strat lol

i dont know what he does ingame..from the sound of it it seems like he is waiting/running away and being very passive. of course its legit and no one said anything else. but it doesnt surprise me when people dont want to rematch him...and i wonder why he is surprised.

as the guy above said..people want fun..when they dont get it out of a match they seek a other opponent. in his case it seems people have issue with the runaway/def aspect.

If you can't overcome that strategy then its your own fault nothing more, you people who quit because you want "fun" are really just salty because you got beat by a smarter strat than smashing buttons.

Its all good though if you want to dodge players because of your own faults be my guest but you only improve if you face these things head on and eventually you will perservere (then you will start having more fun).

[イチジク]

Them qutting is a sign to you that you're way above their skill level. If they actually wanted to get better then they'd rematch you, keep loosing, but aim to learn from each loss.

This applies to you too OP - when someone comes along and smashes your ass in to pieces, don't quit and to try and learn and adapt.

[Mike]

Originally posted by イチジク:

Them qutting is a sign to you that you're way above their skill level. If they actually wanted to get better then they'd rematch you, keep loosing, but aim to learn from each loss.

This applies to you too OP - when someone comes along and smashes your ass in to pieces, don't quit and to try and learn and adapt.

Exactly, I wish more players had this mindset.

[unclassified]

Originally posted by The Don Killuminati:

Originally posted by oppa:

i dont know what he does ingame..from the sound of it it seems like he is waiting/running away and being very passive. of course its legit and no one said anything else. but it doesnt surprise me when people dont want to rematch him...and i wonder why he is surprised.

as the guy above said..people want fun..when they dont get it out of a match they seek a other opponent. in his case it seems people have issue with the runaway/def aspect.

If you can't overcome that strategy then its your own fault nothing more, you people who quit because you want "fun" are really just salty because you got beat by a smarter strat than smashing buttons.

Its all good though if you want to dodge players becasue of your own faults be my guest but you only improve if you face these things head on and eventually you will perservere (then you will start having more fun).

you people? to asked a question, i gave him a answer.
dont act as if i quit on him because he played defensive...he is from the us i did not played with him once. and yes being defensive is of course a valid strategy. same as running away.
again...no one said anything about that but thats most likely the reason why some people dont want to rematch. and yes its theire fault when they get beaten that way...its a fighting game. its always your fault when you lose a match....beside of maybe some ingame glitches.

[geøstigma]

I haven't read all of the replies, just so you know...

What I wanted to say is, even tho I've played Tekken since like '96 (not actively ofc) and spent good 2 years playing Tekken 5 with friends rather actively, I don't really like this "Korean Backdash" thing.
It makes the game feel like a chore, it takes away from the beautiful move diversity and makes it very tense and "tryhard" when it should feel more like fun.

Sure, I'm all about competition, I love winning, but to me, those backdashes feel like an abuse, an animation cancel that the developers never figured out how to remove so they left it there and acknowledged it as a feature (kind of like every other animation cancel in every other competitive game).

It makes it so that you're only focused on that one thing, that one moment when you evade, counter and juggle "infinitely" until your enemy HP is drained, rather than sparring and actually brawling with the opponent.

Suffice to say after this, I understand why people don't want to play with you. I would not either, sorry :/

[イチジク]

Originally posted by geøstigma:

I haven't read all of the replies, just so you know...

What I wanted to say is, even tho I've played Tekken since like '96 (not actively ofc) and spent good 2 years playing Tekken 5 with friends rather actively, I don't really like this "Korean Backdash" thing.
It makes the game feel like a chore, it takes away from the beautiful move diversity and makes it very tense and "tryhard" when it should feel more like fun.

Sure, I'm all about competition, I love winning, but to me, those backdashes feel like an abuse, an animation cancel that the developers never figured out how to remove so they left it there and acknowledged it as a feature (kind of like every other animation cancel in every other competitive game).

It makes it so that you're only focused on that one thing, that one moment when you evade, counter and juggle "infinitely" until your enemy HP is drained, rather than sparring and actually brawling with the opponent.

Suffice to say after this, I understand why people don't want to play with you. I would not either, sorry :/

Surely if you love winning and competition, you'd especially enjoy beating something you know you find hard to beat?

Also regarding your comment about juggles, you're not really someone who should play online at all competively. If that's your choice then that makes sense, but it seens unfair to me that you wouldn't want to play with someone just because they do something you can't do or don't like. Learning how to beat something, or at least holding your ground, would actually be quite satisfying.

This is just my opinion of course - I can't make you like it.