Jin feels too slow and weak in Tekken 7?

[toxicologist]

I am getting my♥♥♥♥♥kicked both in ranked and casual. I know, you'll all say 'GET GOOD NOOB', but I wanna know if I am not the only one who feels that Jin is too slow and weak.

Eventually I will switch my main Jin, because this♥♥♥♥♥♥is too frustrating.

[Daniel]

Tekken 7 Jin is a lot better than his Tekken 6 and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 iterations. He has never been known for speed, but he does more damage and he has more tools now. He is missing Omen I believe, and his attack reversal from tekken 6 though.

[toxicologist]

http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/jin-kazama-tekken-6-frame-data

http://rbnorway.org/jin-ttt2-frames/

http://rbnorway.org/jin-t7-frames/

I did a comparison, and he it seems that he is indeed kinda weaker in T7.

[adroman]

EWGF has so-called frame window, and Jin's window is less than Kazuya's.

[adroman]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Straight Outta Shaolin:

Jin is indeed harder to use because he doesn't have any cheap spammable moves and his high damage combos are more difficult to execute compared to most characters

mastering Jin with pad is insanely hard almost to the point of not being worth the time and effort

100% true

[AGA | prinnyuber]

Jin is slow?With the Jins I fought this isnt the case!

[adroman]

Opprinnelig skrevet av prinnyuber:

Jin is slow?With the Jins I fought this isnt the case!

I think he's really slow.

[Kalvix]

Just be glad you didn't waste 2 weeks trying to make Gigas work, that guy has nothing going for him. Basically all his attacks are high or mid so its super easy to just block everything, the few lows he does have are at such a short range it normally takes about 1 match for people to work out the tactic to beat him.

Stay back and hit low...

Thats all you do and Gigas folds, he just doesn't have anything that gets him safely into range and all his low attacks are such a short range I'm starting to wonder if Gigas was amputated at the knees and just has prosthetics that don't count toward his actual range.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

i see noone complaining back at EVO

[Lyndis]

Jin is not harder than Kazuya.
If we are talking about EWGF, Jin doesn't need it (rather doesn't rely on it as much) but Kazuya desperately needs it.

[toxicologist]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:

i see noone complaining back at EVO

probably because nobody plays him at evo lmao

[PegAsi]

How many threads have we had on jin alone? xD

I've said it in other threads and I'll say it again. Jin is a good character, but the amount of work you have to do to make profit is way too high.

He requires alot of skill to use while putting out little input for acquiring that skill. Hei and kazuya are hard because of electrics, but it pays of a crap ton more to learn them than it does to learn jin.

Same goes for Leo vs Jin and most other characters honestly.

[adroman]

Opprinnelig skrevet av PAZUZU:

Jin is not harder than Kazuya.
If we are talking about EWGF, Jin doesn't need it (rather doesn't rely on it as much) but Kazuya desperately needs it.

Yes, If you play on gamepad 🎮 Kazuya is 100% harder, because Jin isn't unplayable without EWGF, but for sure without EWGF he's slow, low damaging crap comparing to other cheap chars.

[PegAsi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av adroman:

Opprinnelig skrevet av PAZUZU:

Jin is not harder than Kazuya.
If we are talking about EWGF, Jin doesn't need it (rather doesn't rely on it as much) but Kazuya desperately needs it.

Yes, If you play on gamepad 🎮 Kazuya is 100% harder, because Jin isn't unplayable without EWGF, but for sure without EWGF he's slow, low damaging crap comparing to other cheap chars.

Players on pad can do electrics with practice. I only find fightstick easier because timing the 2 button is easier for me.

[KB]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Ahriman:

tekken 7 jin is the best he's ever been after tekken 3

i dont know if you're new to tekken but to me it seems that you just havent had enough experience with the game yet

have you seen tekken 4 jin ? 0.0

[adroman]

Opprinnelig skrevet av PegAsi:

Opprinnelig skrevet av adroman:

Yes, If you play on gamepad 🎮 Kazuya is 100% harder, because Jin isn't unplayable without EWGF, but for sure without EWGF he's slow, low damaging crap comparing to other cheap chars.

Players on pad can do electrics with practice. I only find fightstick easier because timing the 2 button is easier for me.

You right. Even I can do EWGF on pad, but there's a difference between "can do" and can do it stable. I've never seen anyone who may perform it guaranteed on pad, even on YouTube trainings video, for example this with Kazuya who has even bigger frame window https://youtu.be/5oJz5KTGAjc