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Bad at Fighters. Should I get Tekken 7?
So... I'm bad at fighting games. I mean, like, really bad. Like... I cannot describe to you just how bad I am at fighting games. Let me try though...

I can't block. I can't get past blocking. I can't do complicated or difficult combos. (No matter how much/hard I try.

The bottom line is that I don't want to train/practice for 100s of hours only to get bodied by everyone. (Which is what has happened to me in every other fighting game.)

Does Tekken 7 have anything that will help me improve?

I watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJrRd6XUVk

I thought, "Maybe I have a chance."

...of course, I don't have Ryan Hart to personally coach me...
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Jackie Daytona; 23 lipca 2017 o 23:03
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Le_Pro 24 lipca 2017 o 11:34 
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It has lots of different match types and AI difficulties that could help you improve.
I can't even beat the a.i. in UMvC3. Not kidding. When set to "very hard" it literally blocks everything, and punishes me when I try to throw.

I am extremely bad at fighting games despite all my efforts.
Stop trolling and just don't play fighting games ok? No 1 gonna design a game just the way you want it
You have a self-defeating attitude, and shouldn't ever try anything competitive, because you're a damn baby.
Can't you ask your mommy to tell you that you were the second winner after every match so you stop feeling bad about yourself?
Discane 24 lipca 2017 o 13:03 
You need the determination to spend time.

Fighting games required a lot of skills, useful in real life so it worth to spend time and learn. Including good memory and fast antitypal skills.

There are a lot of guides in steam and on youtube to help.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Discane; 24 lipca 2017 o 13:04
Chilly Caesar 24 lipca 2017 o 13:54 
I'm not a pro or anything, probably in intermediate hell myself, but I do think I'm at least decent. First off I reccommend playing with a friend, it can be a really fun experience and you'll be more relaxed while doing so, second DO NOT START IN RANKED, I know you wanna see that 10th dan shining up there on you screen or maybe you want to avoid people above or below your skill level, but Tekken was the game that finally showed me ranked is not the optimal pvp option. In player matches you get unlimited rematches, and the pressure is gone, you can even get pit up against seasoned veterans and people alot more creative in the way they play thanks to the lack of rank. I used to rage a ton playing ranked matches, but then I did several player matches and it really helped mellow me out, even when I go back to ranked from time to time I feel calmer. Third thing to remember is just have fun, you got this game for that purpose right? Also worth noting in many fighting games CPU players are total bull, they block 90% of what you do on high difficulties, so don't feel bad if you can't beat arcade mode, many better players also can't.
I think instead of spending time just trying to bruteforce learning how to play a fighting game, you need to identify clear cut steps and spend time on quality training. Here's some thoughts to get you started.

It sounds really simple, but the goal of a fighting game ultimately comes down to draining the life bar of your opponent before they do it to you. So you have to find a way drain health at every possible moment, while doing things that limits the risk of your own health bar draining. This basically evolves to the term "Risk vs Reward".

How do you drain health, by attacking, ofcourse. The opponent has two main tools to avoid your attacks. One is blocking, the other is evasion. Let's start with blocking.

To get around blocking, you need to attack in a way that the opponent's guard is not effective. If your opponent is blocking high, it blocks high and mid level attacks. You would chose to use lows and throws. If they block lows, it ducks highs and blocks lows, you would then do mids (and low throws).

Now, how do you know what attacks to use when they are blocking high? You may want to risk doing a very slow low that can cause a combo, but that in itself brings a risk to YOU. They may physically see the slow low, block it, and prob punish you and drain your health. What you may need to do is do simple, quick generic low kicks until your opponent starts to preemtively block low after being annoyed by it. Now, you would start doing quick mid attacks like a generic down+foward left punch in addition to your quick lows. This is called a "mixup", in which you give the opponent two choices to make, both which if they guess wrong, drains their health. And this example is a what "safe" mixup, in that you don't bring that much risk to your own health when you get blocked. Doing so many safe mid pokes until your opponent basically forgets to block low is what people would call "mindgames"... THEN you do a more slower, but powerful low and it'll have an increase chance of hitting. Doing multiple mid quick pokes and then doing a command throw when they are expective a mid poke (so they stay standingand eat the throw) is also a similar mixup.

Building on simple but effective mixups like this is really the starting blocks of building your offence. Just doing "good moves" over and over will not net you consistent damage. You -have- to start learning how to apply mixups with supplmentry moves to those "good" moves in order to get your opponent use the wrong guard. Spending time in training mode picking over how each move works in relation to other moves is the key to understanding your character.

Naturally, you'll want to max the damage you get per opportunity. When you finally score that throw, learn what moves can hit them on the ground after. When you get that knockdown, see if you have any moves that can hit them after that. When you block an opponent's move, try to see if they recover slow enough where they can't block your jabs, your launchers, or just plain recover slower than you where you can sneak a throw or quick low kick in.

And finally, copy what good players do, and a good way is to look at japanese and korean arcade footage of your character. They had the game for years now and you can easily get good ideas on what to try out by watching a match. If they do something cool and it hits, pause the match, go in training mode and try doing the same and understand how it works. If they block their opponent's moves and punished with something, try to do the same in training until you get it down to instinct to do the same if it happens to you. Copy their mixups, apply your own twist to see if you can switch stuff around and add your own touch to it. Eventually you'll start winning more and when you lose, you'll know exactly why instead of being beaten and have no clue.

But the first step is to take a scientific approach to it and take it step by step.
typhoon 24 lipca 2017 o 14:58 
Fighting games are most difficult type of video game to get good / competitive at. It's not even close in my opinion. That said, I don't consider myself a hyper competitive gamer and I do at least OK at some fighting games. But yeah, I have to spend a lot of time practicing to even be OK or "meh" at many fighting games depending on how complicated the fighter is.

Tekken is probably the most complicated 3D fighter in my opinion which would explain why I'm MUCH better at other 3D fighters like Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur, or Dead or Alive. My advice is to wait for Soul Calibur 6 (assuming it does come out) or fire up an ancient piece of console technology to play older ones. Soul Calibur is a lot easier to learn and in my opinion a lot more fun to play too than Tekken.
Eisonao 24 lipca 2017 o 15:40 
Sorry to say, but streetfighter & smash are the only fighting games you'd be finding that are simple. You need to spend an hour in the lab for each char in this game, if you can do that you are good, most of the moves consist of 3-4 hits and the longest strings are just the 10 hits so do not sweat it and enjoyyyy the game.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Eisonao; 24 lipca 2017 o 15:42
If you don't have dedication to get better nothing will change, the same goes to every game genre I've been playing since the TTT days and been practicing, and that's the key to success
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Alcoholic Gaming; 24 lipca 2017 o 19:28
Frostie Gigas 24 lipca 2017 o 19:37 
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your problem is that you don't want to take 100s of hours to fix all of that when the only way to fix mentality is to dive several hundred hours into the game. that is literally the only way you can improve your faults.
Well, I spent 700 hours improving in sf4, only to be crap anyway.

I gave an honest effort and failed. There's nothing wrong with my mentality.

Doctors tell me I'll probably die within 15 years. I'm not going to spend a single second playing a game in which I will always suck. I'm not going to throw 100s more hours of my life away in hopes that it might work out this time.

If the game can't teach me to be a high-level player, then the game shouldn't exist.

Very correct.
Frostie Gigas 24 lipca 2017 o 19:38 
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If you don't have dedication to get better nothing will change, the same goes to every game genre I've been playing since the TTT days and been practicing, and that's the key to success

Dedication lol. Im dedicated to studies and work. People i care about. Dedication to a game? What a joke. I must be dedicated to a game that is has full of faults, anybody can be good at anything like stealing panties but that doesnt mean the act itself has any meaning. For me Tekken has no meaning. Its even worse than the previous Tekken. Tekken 7 is lazy and uninspired.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Frostie Gigas; 24 lipca 2017 o 19:39
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Tekken doesn't require skill like other fighting games
You can pick some "easy mode" characters like Eddy, Howarang, lucky chloe or king and just mash the buttons. For most of the people here, Tekken 7 is their first unbroken fighting game because they don't have ps4 so they think Tekken 7 is so hard and skill required game.
pick chloe and come mash buttons against me
Same dude I practiced all her combos to make it effective online while keeping my defenses up
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Alcoholic Gaming; 24 lipca 2017 o 19:40
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If you don't have dedication to get better nothing will change, the same goes to every game genre I've been playing since the TTT days and been practicing, and that's the key to success

Dedication lol. Im dedicated to studies and work. People i care about. Dedication to a game? What a joke. I must be dedicated to a game that is has full of faults, anybody can be good at anything like stealing panties but that doesnt mean the act itself has any meaning. For me Tekken has no meaning. Its even worse than the previous Tekken. Tekken 7 is lazy and uninspired.
Nice troll buddy this is the only time Im gonna give you a bit of my attention since you seem to be looking for some, but sure be dedicated to what you want I'm not judging you, we're just here telling him that you can't be good at anything without practice, and dedication
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If you don't have dedication to get better nothing will change, the same goes to every game genre I've been playing since the TTT days and been practicing, and that's the key to success

Dedication lol. Im dedicated to studies and work. People i care about. Dedication to a game? What a joke. I must be dedicated to a game that is has full of faults, anybody can be good at anything like stealing panties but that doesnt mean the act itself has any meaning. For me Tekken has no meaning. Its even worse than the previous Tekken. Tekken 7 is lazy and uninspired.

You seem to be pretty dedicated to Tekken. At least on the steam threads 😉
Ostatnio edytowany przez: pablonesmrtelny; 24 lipca 2017 o 23:53
Ahriman 25 lipca 2017 o 0:06 
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If you don't have dedication to get better nothing will change, the same goes to every game genre I've been playing since the TTT days and been practicing, and that's the key to success

Dedication lol. Im dedicated to studies and work. People i care about. Dedication to a game? What a joke. I must be dedicated to a game that is has full of faults, anybody can be good at anything like stealing panties but that doesnt mean the act itself has any meaning. For me Tekken has no meaning. Its even worse than the previous Tekken. Tekken 7 is lazy and uninspired.
you're dedicated to your studies? even though you're that stupid?
Frostie Gigas 25 lipca 2017 o 1:08 
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Dedication lol. Im dedicated to studies and work. People i care about. Dedication to a game? What a joke. I must be dedicated to a game that is has full of faults, anybody can be good at anything like stealing panties but that doesnt mean the act itself has any meaning. For me Tekken has no meaning. Its even worse than the previous Tekken. Tekken 7 is lazy and uninspired.
Nice troll buddy this is the only time Im gonna give you a bit of my attention since you seem to be looking for some, but sure be dedicated to what you want I'm not judging you, we're just here telling him that you can't be good at anything without practice, and dedication

Labelling someone is the last resort for anybody losing an argument.

No, there are hundreds of videogames out there and tons of things to do with your life. A game like Tekken should not have a rediculously wide skill gap, its only for people who have no life. The game is not balance, there is no proper tutorial, no explaination and button list like how to roll on the ground, things like how to escape from moves that wont even allow you to get off the ground. You have to search Online for all those buttons.

There are things like wave dash and korean back dash, things they dont tell you. If you just start out playing the game, you will get destroyed simply because you cant move fast enough or cant understand how the mechanics work.

This game is lazy and unfriendly to new users. Even King of Fighters XIV and Street Fighter V was more friendlier to new users with proper tutorials but not Tekken 7. ITs designed for those overly obssessive players who ONLY play Tekken everyday. Dedicate their life to Tekken, its a joke!!

By then when Tekken 8 comes out, say good bye for all those characters you mained so well. My main in Tekken had always been Armor King, and now he is gone. King plays nothing like A.King.

Now i main Gigas and he is a nefted version of Marduk. Really? Its lazy and the game is pethatic. If you are playing you mid tier, you would enjoy the game when you didicate your whole life. This game is not for everybody.

For god sake people would have to buy a stupid arcade stick to master this game. Good luck with that.

Ostatnio edytowany przez: Frostie Gigas; 25 lipca 2017 o 1:10
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