Will Denuvo be removed IF, AND ONLY IF:

[Chii Heartbeat]

The game is cracked?

[Zeikar]

引用自 chrnodroid：

I want denuvo on all steam games by default.

What if something like this happened like an announcement came through "Steam partners with Denuvo, in 2018 all Steam games (or maybe just new ones) will require Denuvo" Some people will go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Chii Heartbeat]

My problem with denuvo is that it doesn't let you play the game that YOU BOUGHT offline. Everybody has reasons to hate denuvo, but I think this one I mentioned is too much. Okay, stop the pirates for the first weeks of launch. Then, if they somehow crack Tekken 7 remove the DRM so nobody who actually paid for the product will have to deal with the disadvantages it brought.

[Offen]

If they can remove Denuvo later, it would be great. If I take my laptop to my cabin, then wanna play some Tekken 7 in offline mode, I wouldn't wanna get kicked out of the game because of any reason.

[Chii Heartbeat]

I HAD FRIENDS WHO ACTUALLY SAID THEY'D GO FOR THE CRA**K in order to play offline.

AND THEY BOUGHT TEKKEN 7.

[MessiahofMelons]

引用自 Messiah of Melons：

I'm curious. If denuvo was only implemented for like the first month would people be happy?

Cause then it would stop some pirates (not all but it would stop some bad and lazy ones). And then we would only have to be online for the first month, eliminating the long term issue of if servers are turned off it's dead.

Don't want hate, was just curious. A simply no is plenty.

I'm glad to see people are OK with this plan. Maybe we can reach a compromise with the devs with Isshak

[zeratul7x]

I hope, game will be cracked soon and Denuvo will be removed after that.
Because, it's does not belong here. =\

[Hanzema]

引用自 zeratul7x：

I hope, game will be cracked soon and Denuvo will be removed after that.
Because, it's does not belong here. =\

agreed

[Hakuso]

If they patched it out later I'd not be so upset about it. It'd still be stupid to put it in a game that the major appeal is online play, but I'd not be angry if they learned how to Deep Silver of Bethesda it rather than trying to emulate Square Enix or WB Games.

Bandai Namco doesn't do that though. We have Tales of Berseria that still uses it months after it became useless, and God Eater does as well when it's worse than useless since they screwed up with the implementation and it actually causes problems for more than just a few of us who have a history of Denuvo issues.

It's not stopping pirates with either of those, but it cancelled my pre-order on both, and I only bought God Eater when I picked it up for 90% off and I'm waiting for Tales of Berseria to fall that far in price as well.

Meanwhile I'm playing the heck out of Toukiden 2 and Ateliere Firis, both games I pre-ordered, and bought on Vita as well. One of which I've picked up all the DLC on both PC and Vita.

So why am I willing to spend $120 on another game, but cancel my pre-order of a Bandai Namco game, and stay grumpy about it even at 90% off?

They've gone Full Square Enix.

Overdo it on anti-piracy scamware, then never patch it out, not even after it has been broken and isn't protecting anything anymore.

[MH_Shawn]

引用自 Shantotto：

devs are censoring denuvo discussion now.

this thread was started on the 26th. It's still here. are you sure?

[Hakuso]

They said to keep it to established threads, not create a bunch of new ones, there are at least two big Denuvo ones still here.

[tolga9009]

I've been waiting for about 2,5 years now for this game, only to find out, that it's the first multiplayer-focused game, which has Denuvo. Denuvo is not bad by default, however, as a competitive player, I'm concerned about performance issues. Tekken 5, Tekken 5 DR, Tekken 6 and Tekken Tag 2 all had FPS drops in certain situations. I was hoping for the Tekken 7 PC release to run *absolutely* buttersmooth 60 FPS all of the time (given you have required hardware). Not a single FPS drop accepted. As a paying, loyal customer, I'm just upset by the fact, that Bandai Namco decided to use a DRM, which potentially can lead to performance issues. They're damaging their paying customers the most, as hackers / pirates will able to play without Denuvo.

I've played Tekken 7 on PC at gamescom 2016. It ran absolutely flawless (E3 2016 build was demoed there, probably withouth Denuvo).

Tekken 7 is going to see 2 DLCs, the latest in "Early" 2018. After protecting important sales for a while, I wish, that with the second DLC, Denuvo gets removed. For their paying customers.

[dannyj147]

引用自 Humbrew：

I've been waiting for about 2,5 years now for this game, only to find out, that it's the first multiplayer-focused game, which has Denuvo. Denuvo is not bad by default, however, as a competitive player, I'm concerned about performance issues. Tekken 5, Tekken 5 DR, Tekken 6 and Tekken Tag 2 all had FPS drops in certain situations. I was hoping for the Tekken 7 PC release to run *absolutely* buttersmooth 60 FPS all of the time (given you have required hardware). Not a single FPS drop accepted. As a paying, loyal customer, I'm just upset by the fact, that Bandai Namco decided to use a DRM, which potentially can lead to performance issues. They're damaging their paying customers the most, as hackers / pirates will able to play without Denuvo.

I've played Tekken 7 on PC at gamescom 2016. It ran absolutely flawless (E3 2016 build was demoed there, probably withouth Denuvo).

Tekken 7 is going to see 2 DLCs, the latest in "Early" 2018. After protecting important sales for a while, I wish, that with the second DLC, Denuvo gets removed. For their paying customers.

Not the first. What about Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefield 1?

[Hakuso]

引用自 Humbrew：

After protecting important sales for a while, I wish, that with the second DLC, Denuvo gets removed. For their paying customers.

That's what I've been asking for since they started using Denuvo and, despite all of the other Bandai Namco games being cracked months ago, they still haven't pulled it from any of them.

Not even God Eater where it REALLY needs to be removed.

[dannyj147]

引用自 liam.s.phoenix：

引用自 Humbrew：

After protecting important sales for a while, I wish, that with the second DLC, Denuvo gets removed. For their paying customers.

That's what I've been asking for since they started using Denuvo and, despite all of the other Bandai Namco games being cracked months ago, they still haven't pulled it from any of them.

Not even God Eater where it REALLY needs to be removed.

To be fair it's not just Bamco not removing it, most Publishers don't.

[tolga9009]

引用自 liam.s.phoenix：

That's what I've been asking for since they started using Denuvo and, despite all of the other Bandai Namco games being cracked months ago, they still haven't pulled it from any of them.

Not even God Eater where it REALLY needs to be removed.

Tekken 7 will receive atleast 2 DLCs, latest beeing planned for early 2018. So, it's not "release and stop support" policy, as most other games.

So, it's very realistic to me, that if we are loud enough, that Namco might consider cutting costs and remove Denuvo for future updates, which we might receive with future DLCs. Denuvo costs money and they need to re-evaluate their cost / benefit by then. Denuvo's selling point at the moment is, that it protects early sales, which I totally understand and respect. However, by early 2018, paying for Denuvo might not be sensible anymore, as its use by then is questionable (given Tekken 7's Denuvo is hacked by then - which I totally believe).

引用自 dannyj54147：

What about Star Wars Battlefront and Battlefield 1?

True. Still, that's typical EA. Their business practices are: "release and forget. Oh, and shutdown servers 2 years after release."

On the other hand, we have Dark Souls 3 from Bandai Namco, which is an absolute success and also focuses primarily on multiplayer. Never heard of any pirating issues. Doesn't use Denuvo, just Steam DRM. Steam DRM is more than enough for multiplayers and is broadly accepted by the community.