Horizon Chase 2 is coming out

[Logan]

For now only on something called Apple Arcade, but devs already said they will release game on consoles and PC in 2023!
https://twitter.com/HorizonChase/status/1564689211860684800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnklq_CCDfQ

[veloxSZ]

Well, was their decision to sell themselves to epic. So they will take the consequences of lower sells on pc now. So sad seeing a really great company that did a fantastic job in both games (played 2 on apple arcade and the first here) going by this side. Crowdfunding would be a nicer solution, but money and fame came first. The chances for a third game were buried when the acquisition was done.

[Occasional Gamer]

Originally posted by veloxSZ:

Well, was their decision to sell themselves to epic. So they will take the consequences of lower sells on pc now. So sad seeing a really great company that did a fantastic job in both games (played 2 on apple arcade and the first here) going by this side. Crowdfunding would be a nicer solution, but money and fame came first. The chances for a third game were buried when the acquisition was done.

If you are offered money and fame in the line of career you desire, you would take it too. There's nothing bad about it. The game was done and in the Apple store before the take-over. For them it was a good decision to sell themselves to Epic, gamers should stop acting so entitled and hateful towards game companies that have success. Yes, being part of Epic is a huge success for game developers.

While I won't buy the game since I don't want to have my games all over the place at different stores and don't want these compulsory installations of launchers, that's my choice. That doesn't make Epic evil or companies that join them scum. That' just makes me stubborn and missing out. My choice, not theirs. For them this is a huge success, for me a loss, but I can only applaud their success and only wish them all the best! Good choice Aquiris, congrats with this epic landmark!

[G0ll0]

Originally posted by Occasional Gamer:

Originally posted by Tranceaholic125:

WHY DID YOU SELL OUT TO EPIC!? You should have launched a Kickstarter to get the funding you needed, as I’m sure you would have had no problem crowdsourcing it given the popularity of HCT. But nope! Now that you sold your soul to Epic, we won’t be able to earn Achievements on HC2 alongside the original!

Because contrary how we may feel about it, being part of a major studio is a dream for many game developers. Just as animators would love to land a job at Disney. If you get the offer, it's a major achievement and crown on your work, not to mention very good for your career. It's all about business and moving up in the corporate world.

But, aside from that, as someone else said, you may have checked the facts before posting ignorant complaints. They became part of Epic after the game was done. They sold out to Apple first. By going exclusive on Apple, it already was clear they were looking to become part of something larger.

While all of that is no good for gamers in the end, it's very good for a studio. After all they're just like the rest of us... if they can get a better job with a better pay and become part of something well known, why not? We all want to keep the wife and kids happy and love to brag to our friends about how we work for something well known.

Nah, the owner of the studio just wanted easy money, that's it.. everyone knows that going epic is a failure, you get money but you games become a phantom land that nobody knowns

[Luna ~]

Originally posted by Occasional Gamer:

Originally posted by veloxSZ:

Well, was their decision to sell themselves to epic. So they will take the consequences of lower sells on pc now. So sad seeing a really great company that did a fantastic job in both games (played 2 on apple arcade and the first here) going by this side. Crowdfunding would be a nicer solution, but money and fame came first. The chances for a third game were buried when the acquisition was done.

If you are offered money and fame in the line of career you desire, you would take it too. There's nothing bad about it. The game was done and in the Apple store before the take-over. For them it was a good decision to sell themselves to Epic, gamers should stop acting so entitled and hateful towards game companies that have success. Yes, being part of Epic is a huge success for game developers.

While I won't buy the game since I don't want to have my games all over the place at different stores and don't want these compulsory installations of launchers, that's my choice. That doesn't make Epic evil or companies that join them scum. That' just makes me stubborn and missing out. My choice, not theirs. For them this is a huge success, for me a loss, but I can only applaud their success and only wish them all the best! Good choice Aquiris, congrats with this epic landmark!

Nah man I disagree with this, Maybe its just i simply have a moral standard, If I slap my name on to ANYTHING its something I will be 100% proud of and respect. I do not respect epic, I wouldn't accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from them regardless of what they presented to me, There is a reason why in my line of field i quit before a certain project because I did not respect the direction they were going regardless of pay. Other people may yolo that but putting scenarios and words into others mouths is silly. without moral standards we have the current problem we have in todays climate around the free market causing oodles of problems, and with 99% of games turning out like hot garbage and denuvo etcetcetc..
I get that people live by the "people gotta eat phrase" but I for one would rather be the change in the world.

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Lulu:

Originally posted by Occasional Gamer:

If you are offered money and fame in the line of career you desire, you would take it too. There's nothing bad about it. The game was done and in the Apple store before the take-over. For them it was a good decision to sell themselves to Epic, gamers should stop acting so entitled and hateful towards game companies that have success. Yes, being part of Epic is a huge success for game developers.

While I won't buy the game since I don't want to have my games all over the place at different stores and don't want these compulsory installations of launchers, that's my choice. That doesn't make Epic evil or companies that join them scum. That' just makes me stubborn and missing out. My choice, not theirs. For them this is a huge success, for me a loss, but I can only applaud their success and only wish them all the best! Good choice Aquiris, congrats with this epic landmark!

Nah man I disagree with this, Maybe its just i simply have a moral standard, If I slap my name on to ANYTHING its something I will be 100% proud of and respect. I do not respect epic, I wouldn't accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from them regardless of what they presented to me, There is a reason why in my line of field i quit before a certain project because I did not respect the direction they were going regardless of pay. Other people may yolo that but putting scenarios and words into others mouths is silly. without moral standards we have the current problem we have in todays climate around the free market causing oodles of problems, and with 99% of games turning out like hot garbage and denuvo etcetcetc..
I get that people live by the "people gotta eat phrase" but I for one would rather be the change in the world.

Maybe it's the moral thing to give financial stability to your employees, so they can support their families? As opposed to staying a small indie company that probably will fail at some point like most indie devs and will leave all employees unemployed. Have you thought about that? What has Epic done that is so immoral that you would prefer to ignore such an offer instead of giving your company much needed stability?

[Dat Zorro]

Originally posted by Tranceaholic125:

If you have a smartphone you can use it as a wi-fi hot spot and connect your Switch to it.

Yes, but I don't have one and I would prefer if the game wasn't such a technical mess on the Switch where you have to worry about crashing/freezing after every race. Today, it died after only 15 minutes. :(

[Lord Clorophilla]

Não lançaram no Steam, não comprarei. Ponto.

[Vinacious G]

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Originally posted by Lulu:

Nah man I disagree with this, Maybe its just i simply have a moral standard, If I slap my name on to ANYTHING its something I will be 100% proud of and respect. I do not respect epic, I wouldn't accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from them regardless of what they presented to me, There is a reason why in my line of field i quit before a certain project because I did not respect the direction they were going regardless of pay. Other people may yolo that but putting scenarios and words into others mouths is silly. without moral standards we have the current problem we have in todays climate around the free market causing oodles of problems, and with 99% of games turning out like hot garbage and denuvo etcetcetc..
I get that people live by the "people gotta eat phrase" but I for one would rather be the change in the world.

Maybe it's the moral thing to give financial stability to your employees, so they can support their families? As opposed to staying a small indie company that probably will fail at some point like most indie devs and will leave all employees unemployed. Have you thought about that? What has Epic done that is so immoral that you would prefer to ignore such an offer instead of giving your company much needed stability?

The fact that you don't know of anything shady or ♥♥♥♥♥♥ epic has done speaks volumes

[KillingArts]

Originally posted by Vinacious G:

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Maybe it's the moral thing to give financial stability to your employees, so they can support their families? As opposed to staying a small indie company that probably will fail at some point like most indie devs and will leave all employees unemployed. Have you thought about that? What has Epic done that is so immoral that you would prefer to ignore such an offer instead of giving your company much needed stability?

The fact that you don't know of anything shady or ♥♥♥♥♥♥ epic has done speaks volumes

Oh, I know. I'm asking what of it you guys think is so bad that a company should refuse such a deal. Let's face it, most if not all of you would do the same in that situation.

[Roz1281]

I'm disappointed because the switch version sucks. Hopefully it gets patched. I can deal with the crappy framerate, but the crashes and other bugs (acceleration randomly stopping, wrong button prompts in menus) make it very frustrating. That and despite playing 10 online races, I've never once raced what I believe to be another person. I've heard someone report that they only connect with someone when the two people press the search button at the exact same moment, like it doesn't actually place you in a pool and collect other players over time. I would have refunded if Nintendo allowed it.

I hope it comes to Steam, but can't see that happening if Epic actually owns them?

[veloxSZ]

Originally posted by Roz1281:

I'm disappointed because the switch version sucks. Hopefully it gets patched. I can deal with the crappy framerate, but the crashes and other bugs (acceleration randomly stopping, wrong button prompts in menus) make it very frustrating. That and despite playing 10 online races, I've never once raced what I believe to be another person. I've heard someone report that they only connect with someone when the two people press the search button at the exact same moment, like it doesn't actually place you in a pool and collect other players over time. I would have refunded if Nintendo allowed it.

I hope it comes to Steam, but can't see that happening if Epic actually owns them?

yeah, the chances are minimum, since they already confirmed the egs exclusivity. Tweet Link[x.com]
Hope they fix the switch version, i’ll grab the game there if it gets patched.

[srsly9]

WAS looking to buy this... but on EPIC... NOPE, Never -- lost a Customer here.

[NormireX]

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Originally posted by Lulu:

Nah man I disagree with this, Maybe its just i simply have a moral standard, If I slap my name on to ANYTHING its something I will be 100% proud of and respect. I do not respect epic, I wouldn't accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from them regardless of what they presented to me, There is a reason why in my line of field i quit before a certain project because I did not respect the direction they were going regardless of pay. Other people may yolo that but putting scenarios and words into others mouths is silly. without moral standards we have the current problem we have in todays climate around the free market causing oodles of problems, and with 99% of games turning out like hot garbage and denuvo etcetcetc..
I get that people live by the "people gotta eat phrase" but I for one would rather be the change in the world.

Maybe it's the moral thing to give financial stability to your employees, so they can support their families? As opposed to staying a small indie company that probably will fail at some point like most indie devs and will leave all employees unemployed. Have you thought about that? What has Epic done that is so immoral that you would prefer to ignore such an offer instead of giving your company much needed stability?

It's about integrity and caring about your base. Clearly the dev doesn't care about integrity or it's base. If they truly cared they would have negotiated with Epic that the game would also be released on Steam, GOG, etc on the same day thus making it fair across the market. This exclusivity crap should not exist on PC at all. I remember just picking up a game on Disc or several diskettes depending what year it was and boom the game was on my PC without any storefronts in the middle. For good or bad Steam is the PC gamers library as they were the first and still the best other than GOG. Epic came along and started enticing devs with greed and thus creating a divide. The EGS exists only because of UE and Fortnite, without those they wouldn't have been able to have a storefront that has lasted this long. I can't name a single gamer that would buy on Epic over Steam, at least not a sane one. Anywho it's about integrity and being loyal to your base in the end. The Horizon devs chose the route of greed rather than integrity.

[Kira Von Black]

i'm not mad at the devs. they don't deserve any blame imo. we all know the dificulties Brazil has, and honestly (and this is coming from a Brazilian himself), every cent counts at the end of the day (i'm being serious here, you guys on the nothern hemisphere despite all the dificulties, know nothing on how rough we have stuff here, believe me. this isn't to diminish ya, just to say that the dificulties are sooo sooo much deeper that you imagine.) . i just wish this exclusivity isn't permanent and that one day we can have this game here on steam. big fan of this racing genre and honestly, the moment Chase 2 drops here at steam it will have my money.

so....

instead of being mad at the devs, why don't we demand that by law all games must be selled in all storefronts, like how it happens in cinema already (all movies are available in all cinemas). i know it is more work to them, but honestly, if we get these laws to pass in the biggest gaming markets (U.S., JP, SK, BR, CH, E.U. in this order for what i remember being the biggest gaming markets in the world), we could have hopes, that this and a LOT of epic shenanigans is cut short on its tracks. i do believe that in situations of, let's face it, monopolization, like what is happening, the only solution, fortunately/unfortunately depending on your point of view, is to get the government involved.

[Occasional Gamer]

Originally posted by NormireX:

Originally posted by KillingArts:

Maybe it's the moral thing to give financial stability to your employees, so they can support their families? As opposed to staying a small indie company that probably will fail at some point like most indie devs and will leave all employees unemployed. Have you thought about that? What has Epic done that is so immoral that you would prefer to ignore such an offer instead of giving your company much needed stability?

It's about integrity and caring about your base. Clearly the dev doesn't care about integrity or it's base. If they truly cared they would have negotiated with Epic that the game would also be released on Steam, GOG, etc on the same day thus making it fair across the market. This exclusivity crap should not exist on PC at all. I remember just picking up a game on Disc or several diskettes depending what year it was and boom the game was on my PC without any storefronts in the middle. For good or bad Steam is the PC gamers library as they were the first and still the best other than GOG. Epic came along and started enticing devs with greed and thus creating a divide. The EGS exists only because of UE and Fortnite, without those they wouldn't have been able to have a storefront that has lasted this long. I can't name a single gamer that would buy on Epic over Steam, at least not a sane one. Anywho it's about integrity and being loyal to your base in the end. The Horizon devs chose the route of greed rather than integrity.

Nonsense. Only selling at one store has nothing to do with integrity at all. They don't owe you anything. Plenty of games are exclusive on one platform. At least this one is one a few platforms. This being a matter of lack of integrity is an absurd reasoning. That's nothing new though, most of the reasoning here is bordering absurdity, hypocritical and selfish at best. Gamers feel so entitled these days, it's almost sickening. No scrap that, the negative comments and over the top, selfish comments are sickening.

We can also turn this absurd reasoning of yours around, why would they even call you part of their user base. Obviously you don't care enough about their games at all. They make a good decision for themselves, which has nothing to do with greed, but more with job security and survival, but yet you blame them for that and gone is your loyalty. You don't care about them or their game, only about yourself. If you were really supportive of the developers and the game, you would get it regardless where it's sold.