Fightstick?

[Serienie]

Is there any for PC? I'm not into console anymore, but I love my fighting games, just never played on a PC before. Is there any that work for PC But maybe also PS4 and Xone incaase I do get those? Google always gave me SF5 fightstick.

[Ignisvir]

Most fightsticks that work with XBox should, if they're wired, since windows is compatible with X input. If it's a PS3/4 one your mileage may vary, but they should be. Granted my knowledge is less than perfect when it comes to matters of fightsticks, since I still use a generic USB controller and occasionally a GCN for most things.

[Red]

You can grab an Xbox 360 or Xbox One fightstick that are recognized natively on Windows, but a PlayStation 3 or PS4 one will need a third-party software to get it to work.

If you're not afraid of tinkering though, you might want to grab a PS4 fightstick (usually also compatible with PS3), open it, remove the controller board and replace it with a PS360+ PCB (which allows for PC/PS3/360 use, and more with adapters). However you should keep the original controller board, since while you can play on a PS4 with the PS360+, you'll have a timeout every eight minutes, which could be annoying, so you might want to replace it to play on PS4 in decent conditions.

[Ketampanan]

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B017QORK7I
Compatible with PS4/PS4/PC, no Xone though. Parts feel a lot like Sanwa parts, not my cup of tea but most people like it.
Or this if you're more budget minded, either this
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B017N4GMSO
or this
http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-FightStick-PlayStation4-PlayStation3-playstation-4/dp/B018HXA6H8
Both work on PC, but is not XInput IIRC so it might not work with, say, SFV without some additional software. I personally like the Hori Mini one's stick, but the small button and narrow layout makes it rather uncomfortable. The MadCatz one I haven't tried, but it has normal sized buttons and layouts, though I heard the stick also feels like Sanwa's, which again, I'm not a fan of.

Or you can go through the route I did, make a custom stick, there's a PCB that supports PS4/PS3/X360/Xone/PC, quite expensive though.

[Red]

Originally posted by RedSuisei:

Or you can go through the route I did, make a custom stick, there's a PCB that supports PS4/PS3/X360/Xone/PC, quite expensive though.

I did the same and I have a wooden fightstick with a PS360+ PCB, though it's not fully compatible with PS4 (8min. timeout) and you need an additional controller board to make it compatible with Xbox One. You also need a USB wire, because it's not included.

Other than that, Sanwa Denshi parts are quite fairly priced. Sanwa buttons are nice imo, but I agree the stick is a matter of personal preference. I initially wanted to make a fightstick out of Hori Hayabusa parts, but it turned out it would have been pretty expensive (at least way more than with Sanwa parts)...

I've been wondering though, is there an easy way to make a plastic-cased fightstick, other than replacing parts in an already existing one?

[Ketampanan]

Originally posted by Red:

Originally posted by RedSuisei:

Or you can go through the route I did, make a custom stick, there's a PCB that supports PS4/PS3/X360/Xone/PC, quite expensive though.

I did the same and I have a wooden fightstick with a PS360+ PCB, though it's not fully compatible with PS4 (8min. timeout) and you need an additional controller board to make it compatible with Xbox One. You also need a USB wire, because it's not included.

Other than that, Sanwa Denshi parts are quite fairly priced. Sanwa buttons are nice imo, but I agree the stick is a matter of personal preference. I initially wanted to make a fightstick out of Hori Hayabusa parts, but it turned out it would have been pretty expensive (at least way more than with Sanwa parts)...

I've been wondering though, is there an easy way to make a plastic-cased fightstick, other than replacing parts in an already existing one?

Search for Brook universal fighting board, that's the PCB I'm talking about. I'm using the earlier cheaper version tho, supports PS4/PS3/PC only, no timeouts.

I personally prefer Seimitsu sticks, and the plus side is they're cheaper than Sanwa's. That's the main reason I make custom, most commercial sticks nowadays use Sanwa/try to clone Sanwa. I don't mind the buttons though.

For plastic case you may want to look into acrylics, though be careful in choosing your thickness. I made mine with sheet stainless steel though, heavy af and strong af. I might be able to use it in an actual fight, lol.

[Red]

Originally posted by RedSuisei:

Originally posted by Red:

I did the same and I have a wooden fightstick with a PS360+ PCB, though it's not fully compatible with PS4 (8min. timeout) and you need an additional controller board to make it compatible with Xbox One. You also need a USB wire, because it's not included.

Other than that, Sanwa Denshi parts are quite fairly priced. Sanwa buttons are nice imo, but I agree the stick is a matter of personal preference. I initially wanted to make a fightstick out of Hori Hayabusa parts, but it turned out it would have been pretty expensive (at least way more than with Sanwa parts)...

I've been wondering though, is there an easy way to make a plastic-cased fightstick, other than replacing parts in an already existing one?

Search for Brook universal fighting board, that's the PCB I'm talking about. I'm using the earlier cheaper version tho, supports PS4/PS3/PC only, no timeouts.

I personally prefer Seimitsu sticks, and the plus side is they're cheaper than Sanwa's. That's the main reason I make custom, most commercial sticks nowadays use Sanwa/try to clone Sanwa. I don't mind the buttons though.

For plastic case you may want to look into acrylics, though be careful in choosing your thickness. I made mine with sheet stainless steel though, heavy af and strong af. I might be able to use it in an actual fight, lol.

Oh thanks! The Universal Fighting Board sounds great, if it's even more universal than the PS360+. But the only thing bothering me is how to craft the case, and cut it so that you can put the buttons and stick (cleanly if possible, my wooden fightstick has some screws making small bumps at the surface because of the stick's mounting plate)...

Stainless steel doesn't sound like a bad idea, except maybe as you've mentioned the weight, and also how to craft it. I guess acrylics are somehow easier to use (the only thing is, I have no idea where to find some), but it's mostly that cutting a hole into a thick steel sheet does not sound like an easy task to me, and even less so if you have to be careful not to damage it in the process.

I'm curious to know how differents the inputs are with a Seimitsu stick (and why not with Seimitsu buttons as well), but I guess that's something I won't be able to test unless I buy one... The same goes for Hori Hayabusa parts (even though they seem to be quite rare now).

Also I've read something about square and octogonal restrictor plates... I didn't pay much attention, so I've directly replaced my joystick's square one with an octogonal one, and if I remember correctly I've read it's a good choice for fighting games, but apparently most arcade systems use square restrictor plates... Did I make a mistake then?


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Also yeah, sorry, the topic has completely gone off-track from the original request.
So, maybe you should indeed go for a custom stick, or at least with a custom PCB, so that you can play on any console and PC without any issue. It's not a problem if you want to play on Xbox One, since you will just have to grab an Xone fightstick, but you'll definitely need a third-party software or controller board to play on PC with a PS4 one.

Edit : One last thing about third-party PCBs is that they allow you to use your stick on PC as both a standard HID peripheral (like old PC controllers) and an Xbox 360/One one (for the latest games).

[Ketampanan]

Originally posted by Red:

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Make the design, then bring it to the appropriate workshop where you live. I was lucky that there is a metalworking workshop in my university, so I just give them the design. For what it's worth, I actually like the weight using steels, feels more solid and won't shake around easily.

The Seimitsu I use is tighter than Sanwa. You need more force to move the stick, but you also don't need to move it around as far. The higher force prevents me from making misinput (like, 236 ended up 2369 and such), but the tighter engage distance means I only to move my hand a bit to register an input. It feels much better to me, but YMMV. Some people do like the looser Sanwa feel and feels they don't give as much misinput, contrary to my opinion. Hayabusa IMO feels closer to Sanwa, especially the new ones.

Gate is also preference. Default is square, but if you think octagonal feels better, then by all means. I personally haven't tried octagonal, but square is just fine for me. Some people feel squares make it easier to find diagonals, but octagonals are easier to find cardinals.

Back to OP's request, if you just want to try out playing with sticks, then give the budget offerings a go. They're decent for what they are, and if one day you decide to upgrade, you can always take the board and use it to build a new custom. I personally recommend a custom anyway, since you can literally pick any part you want and design however you want.

[Goldoni]

A really cheap one is to entirely build yourself with the Arduino. Sure can be a pain but I saved more than 100 euro. I used eight 30mm sanwa buttons and a Sanwa stick. The work can be difficult If you don't have experience with eletrronics but it can be fun doing something like this. On the Internet there are a lot of tutorials you can follow and easily build yourself an arcade stick

[Red]

Originally posted by Trainer Gold:

A really cheap one is to entirely build yourself with the Arduino. Sure can be a pain but I saved more than 100 euro. I used eight 30mm sanwa buttons and a Sanwa stick. The work can be difficult If you don't have experience with eletrronics but it can be fun doing something like this. On the Internet there are a lot of tutorials you can follow and easily build yourself an arcade stick

The counterpart is, it only works on a computer. Unless maybe if you use quite advanced tricks (which I don't know if they even exist yet)...

[Serienie]

I got rekt. I bought the Madcatz Fightstick TE2 and it doesn't even register on my PC. Downloaded drivers manuallybut it isn't giving me Xone. Looks like I gotta return it and get the small expensive SF5 one :(

[Red]

I think Xbox One drivers are for Windows 8 and Win 10, if you have Windows 7 that might be the issue. If you are on Win 8 or higher though, it should be detected as an Xbox One- nevermind, I've browsed the web and it doesn't seem fully compatible. You can check this discussion to see if it helps though.

[Serienie]

Oh man. I'm gonna get the PS4 version. I am on windows 7. I hope it's not the same issue. The people at the store are gonna hate me for buying and returning two things in the same day haha

[Red]

I've just noticed the Xbox One controller's page apparently mentions it's compatible with Windows 7...

[Serienie]

I was gonna get that tiny SF5 PS4 fightstick. dunno the exact name. But I hope it works with Windows 7 when I install the driver O_O!!! Ppl saying it is, But majority of ppl are on 8/10

[Dashiell]

Actually Red I can tell you after using Etokki Omni (3.3kg) for so long that don't make heavy case if you're going to keep it on thighs during game because it really heats balls lol.