Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Wey Forwerd Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:05am
The Mangle Angle Theory/The Girl Theory
So I have a theory, maybe this theory is somewhere around the fanbase, but I've only seen Markiplier's series and a few topics, so, yeah, I'm going to use MatPat's video as a basis and correct what maybe he got wrong since this post is very long already, and I also haven't seen everything so maybe you can help.

this is a list to my long theory, let's try and fix my mistakes and find the truth:

- This kid is bullied by his older brother and friends (and other kids in town). (spoiler alert) This goes on until the end of the 5th night in which the kid dies by a bite by Golden Freddy (If it's not the same bear, then either way Fredbear would be on the diner, right?).

- We can assume that by the flowers and pills or whatever that appear randomly through the game, that the game takes place while the kid is in a coma or whatever, and this are just things that aims toward that.

- I'm guessing this is the reason Golden Freddy was separated from his endoskeleton?

*Now just by doing this, questions arise, was this the bite of '87, or was it not? We have to think carefully here, to know this, we'll go based on the place, we know there was a TV thing that said '83, but this is probably NOT the first place (diner), since we assumed here that the diner was only freddy and we know this may be the first pizzeria, but, if we assume the kid is in the coma, why is there toys of all of them on the room, including mangle? There was never a moment when there was both, the toys and the suit animatronics at the same time, could this really be the bite of 87, and at the same time the party the fnaf 2 calls were leading up to? Not exactly, if it was, we wouldn't see the suits, so this HAD to be the first pizzeria, for all we know it could have closed at the 87, right? Nope, remember FNAF 1? The things on the wall? Well one of them said they would close, but by the end of the year, do you think all of the next events happened, in less than a month (November fron fnaf 2)? It also said the incident happened years ago, so it definitely had to have happened before the 87 even if they decided to close that same year (unless this happened after fnaf 2, that would mess everything up and I can't think that much, but maybe it's a thing). However, the phone calls of fnaf 2 COULD be recorded to be the ones of this bite, I'll look into that but not right now. So back to the posters, we also actually get to know there that, "dressed as a cartoon mascot", following the TV easter egg of '83, we KNOW that the cartoon exists, so we know that even though the place had animatronic suits, they didn't have the rest of the cast of the cartoon, so there can still be toys and masks about it. So now that I took so long to answer that, we know this is probably the first pizzeria, happening probably AFTER the show was released, since it's named Fradbear, so it was probably a show owned by Fradbear's company, so this show had to have happened between the diner and the first pizzeria. Now to conclude, although it can totally be the bite of 87 somehow, we'll just assume this is a bite that happened between the years from 83 to 85 in the first pizzeria. Now let's continue.

- Now we can assume, whoever saw this, is the purple guy or killer, and this is the reason for the killings, killing everyone involved with this bullying and obviously the brother and friends.

- We don't see mangle on the cartoon from the TV, do we? But we see it on this other room. Now this is weird, is this like a guest room?

*But now we have a bigger problem to worry about, we can't just assume the purple guy did this afterwards, because a death happened BEFORE this! Remember the cupcake giving minigame? Yeah, someone died there, so what happened there? The purple guy can't be at prison because we see him as an easter egg later. Uh... I have a theory, but you guys can help me with this one, my current theory is that this is a family member of the kid and the purple guy kills the person, while the kid maybe saw it, this is what traumatized him maybe? Why I say this? Remember that room that had mangle? Clearly mangle was a redesign of foxy, but this game probably didn't happen after fnaf 2, that would ruin everything we believe, but we can assume that mangle was there, tied together, and... this is a kid's room, because mangle is all over the place, just like a kid would play with him, we can assume that first kill, was the kid's sister, or a female young family member. We could also try and maybe say this is actually the diner on fnaf 4 but then the phone guy's call wouldn't make sense that pointed out it was a pizzeria...

- Now if we're going this far, we can assume that the purple guy is probably a family member too, let's say his dad. Now I'm missing the part that why would a dad kill his own daughter and then defend his bullied son.

- After we make sense of that part, we can already tell he was crazy, and after seeing this the dad was determined to kill the other bullies first now.

- Now for a stretch. We can make the connection that the purple guy and the dad are one of the same, but can we go on, after all of this, we can STILL assume the purple guy IS the phone guy. Why? Well, we know the dad, phone guy and purple guy had to have worked there, the dad or whatever being the reason that they have a lot of toys, and mangle, which was maybe an idea at the time and had the toy already.there, but not exactly the idea of it being all dismantled (Like on the room, mentioned earlier, because of how mangle was introduced in fnaf 2), Maybe the reason Mangle is even in there is because it was a gift to the daughter since mangle didn't even come out yet in the show or pizzeria (and maybe aiming for mangle to be a female oriented toy)? Either way, we can have a safe assumption that all three of them are one and the same, and the reason why he would still work there is that, he noticed that after the murders, the animatronics started acting weird, and to save other people from his victims that he considers evil too, he keeps training (I'm assuming he already had this job) this new innocent people from the bullies. (Why even though he was crazy? Uh idk, I told you this part was the stretch)

- The puppet gives life to the bullies after seeing this (the sister in my theory, I guess), not knowing what to do. I guess she also helps with the Golden Freddy life, the reason the kid is not there on the give life mini game being that maybe the kid isn't even there (on coma or dead already).

- The killer wants more and goes to kill the other 5 childen, the ones outside in the minigame in which you return home (I'm guessing these are the kids) Idk why all of them but they are there and he can't know if they aren't all guilty. The puppet tries to save them, but he can't. Maybe the sister was on the bully's side for all we know.

- Now the rest happens I guess.

- In the very end of fnaf 3, we see purple guy's dead. Maybe the reason he is so shocked is not the fact that he is seeing ghosts, but actually seeing the one he was trying to defend come to life, against him, and being in the bully's side.

- We can probably assume Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie were on the spirit's side, since the costumes malfunctioned, and we can see purple guy making one person try it on. Maybe what the kid saw was one of the suits malfunctioning and not the sister's dead, which would make a bit of sense. But that had to have happened before for the kid to be that scarred, and also for them to discontinue Golden Bonnie and Freddy that late, can we assume that they didn't get cancelled and just not being allowed to be used as suits? There was a call about that right?

Now this is assuming phone guy survived the fnaf 1 assault, I'm guessing, otherwise just disconnect phone guy from being the dad and just make the dad or whoever the purple guy, uh, help me tie lose ends here guys. Phone guy could totally be the brother before he died, but then that wouldn't make sense since foxy would already be possessed, right? Alternatively the brother could be the purple guy since he looks like he likes foxy too.

WELL THAT WAS MY THEORY OF THIS.

tl;drkindof: The kid goes to a coma, golden freddy gets his endoskeleton removed, we know that if this game happened before fnaf 2, it can't be the bite of '87, and there's only two animatronics for it to be at the same place, however the cartoon that was made in 83 shows that the friends of Freddy did exist before being turned to animatronics. We assume this bite is the reason the killer kills everyone else, the bullies and friends, we also assume that the reason mangle is in the room to the right is because that used to be a kid's room, presumably a girl, since mangle wasn't meant to be that way, but it's dismantled, as if a kid played with it. We know Mangle was a redesign of foxy and is probably not in the show, it was redesigned to be dismantled in the pizzeria. With this, we assume that the first death was the girl of this room, and the dad also worked at the pizzeria. We assume the killer/purple guy is someone very close to the kid, although a stretch, we assume he is the dad (still working on this). The puppet gives life to the animatronics and golden freddy, even if the kid is in a coma or dead, this is why he doesn't appear at first. The next 5 kids can be the other 5 kids when going outside the fnaf 4 pizzeria. We can also make the strange connection that the phone guy, purple guy and dad are one of the same, because of all the similarities, and the dad tries to help other people from the cursed bullies, maybe? Irregarding this, maybe the reason the purple guy is so shocked in his dead is because he sees his son he tried to defend fighting against him. It wasn't the other kids that terrified him, it was the last one.

But maybe not. Read the last paragraph before the tl;dr to see alternatives.
Last edited by Wey Forwerd; Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:25am
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Voltage Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:09am 
Yeah... I'm not reading all of this.
Wey Forwerd Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:15am 
Originally posted by Voltage:
Yeah... I'm not reading all of this.
No problem brah, I was just typing my thought, I'm too lazy to condense it. I'm just posting it out there in case something similar pops off and I can compare it to my theory.
Desasterchief Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:17am 
Pretty good but I have an another idea.

I think this was the bite of 87. The TV commercial was just an old commercial of the re-opening of the restaurant.
The kid then witnessed the murders of the 5 children by purple guy (minigame at night 3 I think).
Because of this he gets extremely scared of the animatronics because he knows what happened with them. Later on at the birthday party in 1987 his brother puts him in the mouth of golden freddy which lead to the bite of 87.
He soon dies because of his injuries but the puppet gives him new life in form of golden freddy. But here comes the major difference between golden freddy and the rest of the animatronics. The kid in golden freddy didn't want any revenge like the other kids. He dies because of an accident and so he didn't want to hurt anyone.

And this is the reason why golden freddy doesn't attack the nightguards in the other games.

Purple guy either way released the souls after destroying their suits. Phone guy was already dead by this time I think. After purple guy encounters the souls of the victims, he get's scared and hides in the springtrap suit where he finally dies.
Wey Forwerd Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:26am 
Originally posted by Desasterchief:
Pretty good but I have an another idea.

I think this was the bite of 87. The TV commercial was just an old commercial of the re-opening of the restaurant.
The kid then witnessed the murders of the 5 children by purple guy (minigame at night 3 I think).
Which minigame again?
The only reason I don't think this is the bite of 87 is that I don't think this is the second pizzeria, since there's only two animatronics here which are both golden. Unless there was a middle new one... also the papers on the first game say this was closed at the end of the year, and the event happened years before... so it had to have happened before 87 of the second game of the grand reopening. This can't be the same one than fnaf 2, but the call COULD be the same maybe? I mean I think he mentions foxy and the puppet so I don't know, but at this point they both existed, at least on the cartoon...

Maybe we can just try and see if fnaf 2 really is the first game together with fnaf 4, but we need more time and the animatronics are already possessed in fnaf 2... so everything had to have happened in the diner.... CONFUSING.
Last edited by Wey Forwerd; Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:28am
Desasterchief Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:31am 
The first minigame you need to run out of the restaurant. Golden freddy mentions that you can't go back because of what you've seen and that purple guy is going to hurt you. You also see other animatronic suits in the background like bonnie, etc.

Just remember at Fnaf 2. The murder happens in night 3, in this night also the old animatronics appear. In this case the story fits in.
Aetherius Jul 28, 2015 @ 12:39am 
Originally posted by Zink:
Originally posted by Voltage:
Yeah... I'm not reading all of this.
No problem brah, I was just typing my thought, I'm too lazy to condense it. I'm just posting it out there in case something similar pops off and I can compare it to my theory.
You should make a 4 sentence summary (tldr).
Wey Forwerd Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by Desasterchief:
The first minigame you need to run out of the restaurant. Golden freddy mentions that you can't go back because of what you've seen and that purple guy is going to hurt you. You also see other animatronic suits in the background like bonnie, etc.
Aren't the ones on the background just Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy again.
Desasterchief Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by Zink:
Originally posted by Desasterchief:
The first minigame you need to run out of the restaurant. Golden freddy mentions that you can't go back because of what you've seen and that purple guy is going to hurt you. You also see other animatronic suits in the background like bonnie, etc.
Aren't the ones on the background just Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy again.
I'm not sure but I don't think that they appear in a restaurant full of people^^
Wey Forwerd Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by Desasterchief:
Originally posted by Zink:
Aren't the ones on the background just Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy again.
I'm not sure but I don't think that they appear in a restaurant full of people^^
Well they don't since no one but you are there, and the other guys on the other room I think.
Wey Forwerd Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by Player 1:
Originally posted by Zink:
No problem brah, I was just typing my thought, I'm too lazy to condense it. I'm just posting it out there in case something similar pops off and I can compare it to my theory.
You should make a 4 sentence summary (tldr).
I did a tldr, but not 4 sentences, that's probably impossible.
Desasterchief Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by Zink:
Originally posted by Desasterchief:
I'm not sure but I don't think that they appear in a restaurant full of people^^
Well they don't since no one but you are there, and the other guys on the other room I think.

I think you're in a room full of people which are just in the background, but I'm not 100% sure
Aetherius Jul 28, 2015 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by Zink:
Originally posted by Player 1:
You should make a 4 sentence summary (tldr).
I did a tldr, but not 4 sentences, that's probably impossible.
That's a lot easier, looks pretty solid to me.
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