Why Fredbear didn't cause the bite of '87 / My theory on who really caused it

[Boat Ducc™]

Most of you have seen the scene at the end of night five, in which those kids wearing the masks threw the birthday boy into fredbear, which then led to him malfunctioning and bit down on him. To me it's kind of dark, because one of the children was the child's brother! But anyway, many think that this was the bite of '87, but in reality, it's not. This was a separate event, and I have two reasons to prove this.

1. The animatronics in the scene were before 1987. These were the springlock suits used in the family diner. If this truly was the bite of '87, the animatronics onstage would be the toys, not the springlocks.
2. Fredbear has become a hallucination ever since Fredbear's Family Pizzeria(Is that even an official place in the timeline?). Fredbear became Golden Freddy when Freddy Fazbear was introduced. Since Golden Freddy is just a hallucination, he couldn't have bit off the frontal lobe of anybody.

Therefore, the bite of '87 is still a mystery. Hopefully, the DLC will show us the truth. The bite was probably caused by one of the toy animatronics, because they were noted to have gotten more aggressive, even at daytime. My guess is that it might have been Mangle, because she was torn up by the children. This could lead her to do this because of two reasons. First reason is that because of how damaged she was, she could have malfunctioned, and bit the child. The second reason is that she held a grudge, and couldn't take the pain anymore. I don't blame Mangle, though. If I got torn up by children, I would be mad too.

[yakoyo29]

Guys, i solved the mystery of the purple guy.
Scott Cawthon is the purple guy. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evqntloH7v0

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Originally posted by Sillypop:

Most of you have seen the scene at the end of night five, in which those kids wearing the masks threw the birthday boy into fredbear, which then led to him malfunctioning and bit down on him. Many think that this was the bite of '87, but in reality, it's not. This was a separate event, and I have two reasons to prove this.

1. The animatronics in the scene were before 1987. These were the springlock suits used in the family diner. If this truly was the bite of '87, the animatronics onstage would be the toys, not the springlocks.
2. Fredbear has become a hallucination ever since Fredbear's Family Pizzeria(Is that even an official place in the timeline?). Fredbear became Golden Freddy when Freddy Fazbear was introduced. Since Golden Freddy is just a hallucination, he couldn't have bit off the frontal lobe of anybody.

Therefore, the bite of '87 is still a mystery. The bite was probably caused by one of the toy animatronics, because they were noted to have gotten more aggressive, even at daytime. My guess is that it might have been Mangle, because she was torn up by the children. This could lead her to do this because of two reasons. First reason is that because of how damaged she was, she could have malfunctioned, and bit the child. The second reason is that she held a grudge, and couldn't take the pain anymore. I don't blame Mangle, though. If I got torn up by children, I would be mad too.

If he is an hallucination then why did he bite somebody's brain?

[Boat Ducc™]

Originally posted by Boneslayer:

Originally posted by Sillypop:

Most of you have seen the scene at the end of night five, in which those kids wearing the masks threw the birthday boy into fredbear, which then led to him malfunctioning and bit down on him. Many think that this was the bite of '87, but in reality, it's not. This was a separate event, and I have two reasons to prove this.

1. The animatronics in the scene were before 1987. These were the springlock suits used in the family diner. If this truly was the bite of '87, the animatronics onstage would be the toys, not the springlocks.
2. Fredbear has become a hallucination ever since Fredbear's Family Pizzeria(Is that even an official place in the timeline?). Fredbear became Golden Freddy when Freddy Fazbear was introduced. Since Golden Freddy is just a hallucination, he couldn't have bit off the frontal lobe of anybody.

Therefore, the bite of '87 is still a mystery. The bite was probably caused by one of the toy animatronics, because they were noted to have gotten more aggressive, even at daytime. My guess is that it might have been Mangle, because she was torn up by the children. This could lead her to do this because of two reasons. First reason is that because of how damaged she was, she could have malfunctioned, and bit the child. The second reason is that she held a grudge, and couldn't take the pain anymore. I don't blame Mangle, though. If I got torn up by children, I would be mad too.

If he is an hallucination then why did he bite somebody's brain?

First of all, i said the bite that happened in FNAF 4 was before 1987. Second, I said that he became a hallucination when Freddy Fazbear was introduced.

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Originally posted by Sillypop:

Originally posted by Boneslayer:

If he is an hallucination then why did he bite somebody's brain?

First of all, i said the bite that happened in FNAF 4 was before 1987. Second, I said that he became a hallucination when Freddy Fazbear was introduced.

Why did that happen?

[Boat Ducc™]

Originally posted by Boneslayer:

Originally posted by Sillypop:

First of all, i said the bite that happened in FNAF 4 was before 1987. Second, I said that he became a hallucination when Freddy Fazbear was introduced.

Why did that happen?

Because he malfunctioned. I literally said all of this in the beginning post.

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Originally posted by Sillypop:

Originally posted by Boneslayer:

Why did that happen?

Because he malfunctioned. I literally said all of this in the beginning post.

You never mentioned he malfunctioned. I just read it over four times. You just said he became an hallucination (for some reason) when Fazbear Entertainment took over the animatronics. If he did malfunction, then why did he?

[Foxbow]

i believe i believed all along... and another point to add to ur thing is that the bite of '87 was a frontal lobe chomp which is the front of the head. but in the game we see that his whole head was stuffed into his mouth meaning that was most likely a spine breaker or a skull crusher. not a brain biter. also it had to have been mangle cuz in '87 the animatronics were toys and in the location before fnaf 2 was where the old animatronics were so that couldn't have been the bite...and golden freddy was in the back at both those times which means........the only animatronic with a big enough mouth to bite off a person's frontal lobe is none other than the lovable bundle of parts....mangle (dun dun dunnnnn)

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Originally posted by shelleynbart:

i believe i believed all along... and another point to add to ur thing is that the bite of '87 was a frontal lobe chomp which is the front of the head. but in the game we see that his whole head was stuffed into his mouth meaning that was most likely a spine breaker or a skull crusher. not a brain biter. also it had to have been mangle cuz in '87 the animatronics were toys and in the location before fnaf 2 was where the old animatronics were so that couldn't have been the bite...and golden freddy was in the back at both those times which means........the only animatronic with a big enough mouth to bite off a person's frontal lobe is none other than the lovable bundle of parts....mangle (dun dun dunnnnn)

If the animatronic's teeth were metal and sharp they would be to dangerous, and would've been taken down. Ex. the old animatronics were dismantled and Mangle was ripped apart. So it would be unlikely that the animatronic's teeth could do any real damage. The endoskeleton, however, is metal and it has teeth. Since its not part of the actual animatronic they wouldn't care because 'why would the endoskeleton be exposed to children?' When they put him in Fredbear's mouth the animatronic's teeth should barely cut his neck but the endoskeleton's teeth were placed above the brain and crushed his skull, piercing the frontal lobe

[DJ Particle]

Originally posted by chickfilaman1:

So if this isn't the bite of 87, answer these questions to convince me:

Mangle, how is she there?

Prototype, or inspiration. Especially if the kid is the Purple Guy's kid.

Toys matching the toy animatronic sprites are found with a little girl

They were characters on the show before they were animatronics.

The biggest one of all: When Scott released the teasers of the nightmares asking "was it me", and also Fredbear asking, there were 87's in the source code, not 83's. Number 1: Why would Scott do that if it wasn't 87? And number 2: In what other situation would Fredbear himself ask if he bit the kid? We don't ever see the official Fredbear again,

Nightmare Foxy had an 87 in his eye in the teaser. He saw the bite (we know that) and it means he saw something from the year 87.

Just because the number 83 appears on a commercial, which could mean established since, doesn't mean there was another bite.

Probably because Scott meant for it to be the Bite, but changed his mind. Now, however, there *are* 83s in the source code.

The biggest argument for it *not* being the Bite of 87 is simply because Fredbear and Spring Bonnie are on the stage. The fact that those animatronics, as well as the animatronics that replaced them, were retired by 1987 is why.

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Originally posted by DJ Particle:

Originally posted by chickfilaman1:

So if this isn't the bite of 87, answer these questions to convince me:

Mangle, how is she there?

Prototype, or inspiration. Especially if the kid is the Purple Guy's kid.

Toys matching the toy animatronic sprites are found with a little girl

They were characters on the show before they were animatronics.

The biggest one of all: When Scott released the teasers of the nightmares asking "was it me", and also Fredbear asking, there were 87's in the source code, not 83's. Number 1: Why would Scott do that if it wasn't 87? And number 2: In what other situation would Fredbear himself ask if he bit the kid? We don't ever see the official Fredbear again,

Nightmare Foxy had an 87 in his eye in the teaser. He saw the bite (we know that) and it means he saw something from the year 87.

Just because the number 83 appears on a commercial, which could mean established since, doesn't mean there was another bite.

Probably because Scott meant for it to be the Bite, but changed his mind. Now, however, there *are* 83s in the source code.

The biggest argument for it *not* being the Bite of 87 is simply because Fredbear and Spring Bonnie are on the stage. The fact that those animatronics, as well as the animatronics that replaced them, were retired by 1987 is why.

There are 87's in the source code. Not 83's

[DJ Particle]

Or how about this then, going meta here... the *truly* largest argument against it being the Bite of 87 is that Scott himself, in a comment on MatPat's vid, said they were wrong about it being the Bite. The comment is still there (if you're willing to wade through thousands of comments to find it), and clicking on the poster's name does lead to Scott's actual YouTube at username 'animdude'.

Unless Scott's YT was hacked, I'd say that's rather definitive.

TV Tropes calls this "Word of God", and all the arguing in the world isn't going to change the fact that Scott himself said it's not the Bite.

[vesper11026]

Originally posted by chickfilaman1:

So if this isn't the bite of 87, answer these questions to convince me:

Mangle, how is she there?

Toys matching the toy animatronic sprites are found with a little girl

The biggest one of all: When Scott released the teasers of the nightmares asking "was it me", and also Fredbear asking, there were 87's in the source code, not 83's. Number 1: Why would Scott do that if it wasn't 87? And number 2: In what other situation would Fredbear himself ask if he bit the kid? We don't ever see the official Fredbear again,

Nightmare Foxy had an 87 in his eye in the teaser. He saw the bite (we know that) and it means he saw something from the year 87.

Just because the number 83 appears on a commercial, which could mean established since, doesn't mean there was another bite.

how about this answer?

1. Q: Mangle how is he/she there? (Don't hate there is a massive division over mangles gender)
A: This could be the kid's nightmare starting

2. Toys matching the toy animatronic sprites are found with a little girl
This could be a bit of merchandising for the TV series Freddy Fazbear and friends

3. This is a legitimate question and hasn't got any 1 answer, either:

1. Scott did this on Purpose to get the community discussing this game more
2. Maybe it was hinting to the DLC supposedly due on Halloween
3. with the animatronics 'supposedly' being sentient maybe the was it me was the animatronic in disbelief asking if they really did bite that kid

my response to this is simple, we need to play the games properly and pay attention to everything, there is a reason Scott put so much detail into these games

[DJ Particle]

Originally posted by vesper11026:

1. Q: Mangle how is he/she there? (Don't hate there is a massive division over mangles gender)

Just keep in mind that in the 1980s, kids' entertainment wasn't exactly in the habit of challenging gender norms. Mangle, a kids' character, wears lipstick. Therefore female.

[FenrirSlip]

I know that this is a theory, but Fredbear did cause the bite of 87.

[DJ Particle]

Originally posted by SFMBonnie87:

I know that this is a theory, but Fredbear did cause the bite of 87.

Fredbear was decommissioned by 1987.