What have you brought home?

[Doctor Raven]

What if only the minigames of FNaF 4 are set in the past, while the main game it's in the future?
"This time, the terror has followed you home."

The Nightmare animatronics are basically plushies, so could it be that the teasers of FNaF 4 were not talking about who did the bite, but basically what did the protagonist brought home?
"What have you brought home?" "Was it me?" "Was it me?" "Or me?" "Or maybe it was me.... Probably me" "Terrible things come in small packages".

The "It burns!" article said "The few items that were selvaged will be sold to the public auction" and in the photo (if brightned) there is the head of Springtrap with illuminated eyes.

Why Plushtrap it's not called "PlushBonnie" or "Nightmare SpringTrap"? Becuase it's not a common plushie and also not a Nightmare animatronic. He's teeth are not like the one of the nightmares, but actually are actually like little rectangles. Much of his positions are very similiar to the ones of Springtrap in both the teaser trailer and the game of FNaF 3.

When Fazbear's Fright burned the body of Golden Freddy, Puppet and Springtrap were destroyed, the two last children was freed but Purple Guy transfert his soul inside another object: Plushtrap.

Just like Springtrap created Phantom Freddy, Phantom Chica, Phantom BB and Phantom Foxy (I think the Puppet created Phantom Puppet and Mangle), Plushtrap creates the Nightmares.

So basically the main game and fun with BB it's all a dream, while Fun with Plushtrap it's the real life.

Evil doesn't die.

[Rydi]

I've been saying this for months now xD Glad some people are starting to see it the way I do!

[gavtel]

I agree that the main game takes place after the minigames but I still think the whole Springtrap creating the Phantoms thing is a bit silly, I mean if you're saying that, wouldn't the Puppet be possessing multiple animatronics in FNaF1 because of the eyes (black with white pupils (which applies to 3 of the 5 of them (Freddy, Bonnie and Golden Freddy), plus the Endoskeleton)). I know that the eyes are similar but seriously it seems kind of silly (the Puppet is ALSO present in Fazbear's Fright, despite having a Phantom form (perhaps because HE is an apparition, much like he was in FNaF2 when he's free from the box, meaning he might be creating these apparitions as well)). Plus there's clear differences in the eyes too, like the Phantoms have black scleras while Springtrap's ones are white.

[Rydi]

Originally posted by gavtel:

I agree that the main game takes place after the minigames but I still think the whole Springtrap creating the Phantoms thing is a bit silly, I mean if you're saying that, wouldn't the Puppet be possessing multiple animatronics in FNaF1 because of the eyes (black with white pupils (which applies to 3 of the 5 of them (Freddy, Bonnie and Golden Freddy), plus the Endoskeleton)). I know that the eyes are similar but seriously it seems kind of silly (the Puppet is ALSO present in Fazbear's Fright, despite having a Phantom form (perhaps because HE is an apparition, much like he was in FNaF2 when he's free from the box, meaning he might be creating these apparitions as well)). Plus there's clear differences in the eyes too, like the Phantoms have black scleras while Springtrap's ones are white.

Springtrap's scleras are white because he DOES have real eyes! (This proves the eyes you see are Purple man's, not springtrap's http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150409204053/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/f/f1/Secret_IOS_Springtrap_Image.jpeg ) Purple man's eyes are still there, what you're seeing are his real eyes, white sclera + black & white irises. The phantoms are EMPTY shells showing only Purple man's irises, that's why they don't show white scleras, because the animatronics don't have eyes of their own anymore.

The key point is that the phantoms don't appear until they bring in Springtrap, all the animatronics are already in the place and yet not a single phantom shows up, not even the Puppet. They all have Springtrap's eyes, even the fake phantom of the puppet. We know these are conjured by Springtrap and not by the Puppet because the puppet is alive, therefore these phantoms aren't real spirits, you can't have a spirit in and out of the suit at the same time, can you? These are hallucinations. The puppet could attack the guard with his physical form like he did in FNAF 2 rather than using a silly phantom form that only distracts the guard, but he doesn't because he's not attacking the guard. The only one attacking the guard is Springtrap through the phantoms.

Springtrap is NOT possessing anyone and he's NOT controlling the real spirits! He's making up hallucinations to make easy prey of the guard! The puppet can't possess anyone either beyond its own suit, what we saw in FNAF 1 were just hints to the animatronics being haunted by the five missing children and being spooky in general. Not everything with white dots for eyes is the puppet or purple man but the similarities between Purple man's eyes and the phantom's eyes are uncanny.

[Doctor Raven]

I actually think Springtrap only creates the Phantom Freddy, Chica, Foxy and BB becuase he want to distract the guard, so he can kill him. While the Puppet creates Phantom Puppet and Mangle because he want the guard to leave the place (there is no point for him to kill him since the killer is dead) possibly becuase he doesn't want Springtrap to kill you, or because the ones who created the attraction are actually violating the "graveyard/sanctuary" of the spirits (that now are only Golden Freddy and Puppet).

[gavtel]

Rydi, what I meant was that the Puppet's physical body is there but it's already broken, as we see on the very same camera to the right (you can see his mask there to the right to prove me right). This means the Puppet we see at the end of the hall is fake, an apparition (or a Phantom) of the Puppet (just like he did in FNaF2 when he was loose from the box, which proved he can create multiple apparitions at once, as they're on multiple cameras). Since they have no further need to kill the guard, they instead pull pranks on him. Maybe they didn't come with Springtrap but with the tapes / they came with him because they were keeping an eye on him to make sure he didn't kill children (they don't care about adults so they're fine with them killing the FNaF3 guard).

The point is, just because an eye is similar to another character's it doesn't make them the exact same spirit (as I was using the Puppet as an example, you proved my point, the animatronics aren't haunted by the Puppet YET they still imitate the eyes that the Puppet does so this means they might not be created by Springtrap at all but by the kids spirits as they have nothing else to do in their afterlife than prank a guard, waiting until they can finally pass on (or they have some sort of grudge against this particular guard and want him to suffer so they don't kill him right away and when he does die they feel satisfied about it (no, it doesn't have to be another killer but even the brother of the kid / one of the bullies is a possibility, despite their apology at the end of FNaF4, the spirits are still angry at them and won't pass on until they have been killed off)). This means the guard HAS to be somebody of importance to the plot in FNaF3, as all spirits are outside of their physical bodies apart from Springtrap, of course (and ghosts have certain things they wanted to do in life but couldn't so they haunt the place until these are fufilled, in this case it would be revenge for a friend in their life).

Edit: The only animatronic we don't see broken is Golden Freddy, as he is nowhere to be seen in the attraction so if your theory is true about a ghost being trapped in a body it would be him rather than the Puppet.

[Rydi]

Sorry mate but you're wrong. Apparitions don't have reflections and the puppet at the end of the hall in FNAF 3 does. There is a mask on the wall but let Phone dude explain what it is "and a Foxy head! Which we think to be authentic... then again it might just be another crappy cosplay" They're not sure their own Foxy is legit let alone that puppet mask now that we see the real puppet on the hallway.

We don't know what happened to the golden freddy suit after FNAF 2, we know the police found out it was the murder weapon for the FNAF 2 crimes and beyond that point we NEVER see the physical body mentioned or shown in any way! Golden Freddy's physical body wasn't present in FNAF 1 anymore, only his ghost remained (and before you even bring it up, the cutscenes in FNAF 2 are labeled dreams in the gamefiles, keep that in mind). So we can assume someone took it and never returned it to the restaurant, it could be the police since it was evidence of the crime or it could have been purple man stealing it after the crimes somehow. The thing is that it wasn't in the pizzerias anymore therefore it's impossible for the guys at Fazbear's Fright to find what is not in a pizzeria, don't you agree? We do have his limping phantom though.

I strongly disagree with you and I find your evidence to support they're "pranking the guard" very weak. The happiest day minigame doesn't happen until THE PUPPET gets there. It doesn't matter if all of them are there, it's not until the Puppet arrives that they all get to depart. So it's obvious that the Puppet was still trapped in its body, the puppet didn't need comforting he needed to be released from its body to be able to depart to the happiest day party with the rest.

There's a huge difference from having white dots for eyes and having huge detailed and patterned eyes like Purple man. If you want to disregard that obvious clue Scott included for us you might as well just go back to thinking Purple man is not a killer.

[gavtel]

Rydi, here's the proof that some of the apparitions have reflections: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/e/ea/Shadow_freddy_bright.png/revision/latest?cb=20141113185724

Look closely at the area underneath Shadow Freddy. Going by your logic that means that he's really there. The same applies to the other apparitions of FNaF3, might want to look at this:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/a/a9/9bQrxAI.png/revision/latest?cb=20150308102103
And this:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/d/d9/Cam04CupcakeB.png/revision/latest?cb=20150308011021 (kind of harder to see but it's still the cupcake that's reflected)

Once again, apparitions have reflections (with the exception of Shadow Bonnie and other Office hallucinations (this is because Scott felt like adding each character without editing the background of the main floor area of the Office, so no reflections of the characters in the middle of the room)), unless Springtrap has a bunch of drawings in him that he sticks up (where would he hide them anyway? Up his butt?)...

Crappy cosplay or not, he might still be an apparition. Also Happiest Day doesn't happen until they're ALL there not just the Puppet. Also notice how he didn't bring back the white dotted eyes in any animatronics in the main games for FNaF3 / 4, maybe those eyes are just updated versions of the glowing eyes to a higher graphical quality (before you bring up Fredbear Plush in the minigames, Purple Guy also had only 1 white dot rather than the fancy design inside of Springtrap in the minigames so that argument is irrelevant). I never believed in that theory about Purple Guy not being the killer anyway (especially after 5 kids vanish after his death).

[Rydi]

Ok, I have to step back. Congrats, this is not something you see everyday xD Well, in light of this new evidence I may concede that the argument that apparitions don't have reflections is not a valid argument, but I stand by my belief that the Puppet is well and alive. The truth remains the same, to release the spirits you need to destroy the bodies:

- Toy animatronics were released after the robots were scrapped due to malfunctions in FNAF 2
- Freddy and company were released after Purple man dismantled them

The puppet wasn't an "animatronic" per se, he looks more like a toy/plush/thing that's not a robot, and he wasn't from the FNAF 2 cast, he wasn't scrapped along with the toys, therefore it remained in one piece all along.

Scott confirmed the Puppet was going to be in FNAF 1 but had to cut him out due to budget issues, so the Puppet is still perfectly well in FNAF 1 as well, probably locked in a box with other unused items. Box that would have been found by the guys at Fazbear's Fright in one of their scavenging trips to the restaurants. So without anyone destroying his body how could the Puppet's spirit be released?

The happiest day minigame doesn't happen until you comfort all the spirits and you take the puppet there, the puppet is the one to comfort Golden Freddy, without the Puppet nobody can leave. But the puppet is bound to the same limitations as the rest of the spirits, he needs to be freed from his body.

If they all remained on earth to prevent Purple man from killing anyone why didn't they remain after the fire as well? Clearly Purple man survived, rendering their 30-year-efforts useless. They had no choice but to remain there until the Puppet was released from his body and could finally attend the party. Fazbear's fright burning down released the Puppet's spirit and it went on to the happiest day party whereas Purple man's spirit was released after Springtrap being destroyed by the fire and he found his way into plushtrap, ready to continue with his evil quest.

[minn]

I brought home a fanny pack and 2 boxes of s'mores

[gavtel]

Rydi, what about the transfer from the Plush Fredbear to the Puppet (assuming your theory is correct about that)? There is no evidence of the plush being destroyed, it just fades away (perhaps even teleporting somewhere else). Though it might suggest it was destroyed, it may have been put away somewhere instead.

Also if the spirits still need to be gathered / appeased then the Puppet clearly isn't the only spirit that's still around that has still to attend the party. Plus if you just go to the party without every other spirit (yes you CAN play Happiest Day on any night in FNaF3, even Night 1), the kid isn't appeased. This shows that the Puppet isn't the only child spirit that's still around while Happiest Day is happening, plus they had to have gone somewhere, they couldn't have just vanished into thin air before Happiest Day (they had to have still been around during FNaF3, all 6 of them).

What I meant was that they were keeping an eye on him until they could finally pass on because nothing else was happening in the restaurant (assuming your theory about Purple Guy dying after FNaF1's restaurant closed is true). The reason why they are still around is debatable, though I think they still had some unfinished business from their life that they needed to do and that Happiest Day is merely a metaphor for them achieving it, as there wouldn't have actually been a party of ghosts, of course. Instead I believe it may be linked with FNaF4 in some way, perhaps with one of the bullies (maybe the guard is one of them, like the brother for example) and they wanted revenge for their friend's death, even though they had passed on already. If the guard is somebody of importance, then it is likely that they are somehow involved with this unfinished business, whether they're a bully or not though is unknown as there is very little in the way of evidence pointing towards this (though IF they are involved in their unfinished business, then the canonical ending (assuming the "Good Ending" is the canon one) would involve the death or apology of this person).

As for Plushtrap, while it could be Purple Guy's spirit, who would haunt Nightmare BB (as he's canon and in the same location)? Phone Guy's spirit? If so, why is he attacking a child? Seems suspicious, doesn't it? Does this mean Plushtrap is a part of the dreams, rather than it being in real life (also he doesn't kill you, so it seems unlikely that this is real but just a part of the dream too).

[Rydi]

You're not meant to go to happiest day until you've gathered all the spirits so it would be like playing BB minigame the second time without completing Mangle's quest first, you need to do things in the order they were meant to. So you can go to the party at any given moment that you trigger the minigame but canonically speaking you're only meant to trigger it once all the spirits have been comforted. The spirits remained on earth after killing Purple man, I never said otherwise. They have fulfilled their quest for revenge but as always, revenge isn't the answer, they need to come to terms with the events that took their lives in order to move on and that's what they do in the meantime between being freed from the animatronics and going to the happiest day party. Each spirit is waiting somewhere, trying to make peace with everything. They are NOT trying to kill or prank a guard, the minigames show this quite clearly, they're crying -- not the mood for a prank imo.

The bad ending is not canon but it shows what happens if the children don't come to terms with their deaths, they're unable to depart. The lighted heads don't represent that they're still haunting beheaded animatronics, they simply show how they haven't departed and still linger on earth. Golden Freddy's head is the most symbolic, he only shows us the "shadow" silhouette of the animatronic head because that child never received a physical body or, if he did, he was taken out from the suit years ago (most likely early FNAF 2) so when his spirit departs, nothing of Golden Freddy remains, no suit, no spirit, nothing.

The brother apologized, what else do you want from him? He's spent a lifetime of regret, I don't think he needs further punishment from animatronics that have nothing to do with what happened to that child. Their only finished business is accepting their death and putting their tragedy behind them.

Scott said that nightmare BB fitted into the story and could be considered canon, and he fits into the story, he's just another of Plushtrap's hallucinations. Notice how all the animatronics are Nightmare Bonnie, Nightmare Freddy, Nightmare Chica, Nightmare Fredbear, but Plushtrap is just NightmarePlushtrap? BB is also Nightmare BB, therefore he plays no bigger role than Nightmare Bonnie or Nightmare Chica. Notice how BB also has five fingers and sharp teeth like the rest of nightmares.

Plushtrap is the real one, the guilty party, the rest are his creations to scare the child to death, literally.

Yes, I do believe Fredbear plush was destroyed. He might have been taken to hospital while the child was in a coma to accompany him and the father beheaded it in one of his rage fits like he did with Foxy earlier in the game? I do not approve of spirits going back and forth from their bodies whenever they want, that would allow for silly theories to start spreading, like "it was the puppet possessing all the animatronics to force them to do what he wanted" or stuff like that. I ain't buying that. Scott estabilished rules for his story and he's sticking to them, even if we can't yet understand how everything works.