Something I noticed about Purple Guy that's eating at me...

[megaharv]

I posted this in another topic, but I made an observation about Purple Guy and I'd like to know what people think about it. I apologize for having more questions than answers but I don't recall this being brought up yet.

Pardon the shameless plug, but in case someone wants a point of reference towards what I'm referring to...here's me playing FNaF 4. The time in question is 8:34 just in case the link goofs up...

https://youtu.be/4yjIHAKXZ50?t=514

Anyway, what I'm drawing attention to is that Purple Guy is way taller than the Spring Bonnie suit. Why does that matter? Because Purple Guy runs into Spring Bonnie in FNaF 3, when in the link above, he's clearly too big to fit in the suit! So how the heck can this be? As far as I can tell, this confirms one of 2 things.

1. There is officially more than one Purple Guy.

2. There are more than 1 Spring Bonnie suit of varying sizes.

I've never liked the idea of their being more than one Purple Guy. The idea of their being more than one Spring Bonnie suit makes more sense, but how many Spring Bonnie suits were made? In this restaurant we see 2. One of them is on the stage, and if you compare the size of the suit on stage to the one that Purple Guy helps the guy into, they are the same size. So logically it seems like even if there is more than one suit, that they would all be built to be the same size.

So what gives? I suppose this could mean that confirms that the animatronics do attack the night guards because of which ever Purple Guy committed the crimes. They are animatronics possessed by children, and "what's seen in the dark is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child". All the main games take place at night, plus we do see plenty of Purple Guys of varying shapes, sizes, and colours.

I would prefer not to rely on the cop out answers of "You're taking the minigames too literally" because if that's the case, then why am I even looking to minigames for hints in the first place? I understand I can't take everything 100% literally, but I feel like this important enough to draw attention to.

Thoughts?

[Tighty-Whitey]

No thoughts.

[gavtel]

There is a third suit in the restaurant. Look in the Backstage (Night 4), you can see a different type of Spring Bonnie (or at least the head of it) at the top-right corner of the screen (though it's hidden by the text boxes sometimes). There might be a fourth one as well but it just didn't appear in FNaF4 (Stage 01 in FNaF3)...

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

Perhaps Purple Guy wasn't a murderer at all?
The kid just saw him help an employee into a suit, and he mistakenly thought he was stuffing a dead body into it. The "pink guy" was just a fake version of him that the Puppet implanted in the animatronics' programming in order to get them to attack adults the Puppet saw as a threat? The purple guy in FNaF3 that dies in Springtrap could also be this fake version, like "pink guy" he is missing his badge, which both the version of him in FNaF4 and the "you can't" easter egg have?

[Raviable]

So Purple Guy is trying to eat you, eh.

[Nullity]

Their is one purple guy who killed 4 children after his kid dies after the 4 kids made the bo87 and was sent to jail after for his diner to be closed for the first pizzaria to be opend where his failed models to be put to stage but he put new toy animatronics based on toys he made to be put on stage. after it closes and the other pizzaria opend he was free or escaped to the pizzaria to hide from the police where he had a tazer to taze the animatronics to only set the souls free to kill himself in the springbonnie suit to be found in freddys family fright to live the rest of his life in pain. also the souls didnt know the purple guy because the killer killed them after he put on a purple suit makeing them think he is someone else.

[Rydi]

The suits at Fredbear's aren't even remotely similar to the suits at Freddy's. The suits at Fredbear's are built so that the performer gets to see and breathe through the mouth of the animatronic; The suits at Freddy's are built so that the performers see through the animatronics eyes and breathe through the animatronic's mouth. So I don't see why you'd be expecting Purple man to fit into Fredbear's suits when he clearly uses Freddy's suits.

[Rydi]

Originally posted by texminecraft:

(...) freddys family fright (...)

I want to play at Freddy's Family Fright xDDDD

[FulvousFox]

Probably just an inconsistency? The entire game doesn't have to be perfect. Why in the world would Scott worry about Purple Man's height compared to the suit?

[megaharv]

Why would Scott expect us to care about a detail such as Toy Chica missing it's beak in the playground with the little girl? That's such a minute detail. We've had people who've noticed, and argue the fact that whomever scares the child in the house has a white complexion, where as the brother who shoves the boy's head into Fredbear is tan. That's significant and shouldn't be glossed over.

Seeing with my own eyes Purple Guy being nearly a full head taller than the employee in the Spring Bonnie suit, the very same style springlock suit that Purple Guy runs and hides in during FNaF 3's minigame which leads to his demise, is a significant detail that shouldn't be glossed over. There is no way he would fit in that suit. Whether it's to hide from ghosts or to kill children in. He's simply too tall.

Originally posted by Rydi:

The suits at Fredbear's aren't even remotely similar to the suits at Freddy's.

Why do you say that? Both Fredbear's and Freddy's had Spring Bonnie Springlock Suits. Phone Guy in FNaF 3 mentions "Spring Bonnie being noticeably moved" which I thought meant in the Freddy Fazbear location, where in FNaF 4 we see the Spring Bonnie suits with our own eyes at the Fredbear location. Judging by the 2 complete suits I see in FNaF 4 being the same height, I presumed that all of the Springlock suits would be manufactured identically.

Originally posted by Rydi:

The suits at Fredbear's are built so that the performer gets to see and breathe through the mouth of the animatronic;

I disagree. Watching the aforementioned FNaF 4 Minigame again, that is most certainly the case with Fredbear, there's no debating that. I can see his eyes through the mouth of the suit. However when Purple Guy puts that Spring Bonnie head on the employee, you don't see any eyes period. None poking through the mouth, none poking through the eyeholes either. There isn't even a space for an employee to look through Spring Bonnie's mouth. Which leads me to believe once the employee shimmies around in the suit, he would look through the eyeholes, much like in a Fazbear location.

[Rydi]

You can think that, megaharv, but the reality stands beyond your thoughts. Purple man fit into the sping bonnie suit just fine. Why would the Fredbear suit be built so that the performer can look into and breathe through the mouth of the animatronic but the same location's spring bonnie be built so that you can see through the eyes of the animatronic and breathe through its mouth? It'd make sense if those differences accounted for being from two different locations, but not different suits in the same location, they would have upgraded Fredbear if that were the case.

If we have to base ourselves in the purple man easter egg, we can conclude that the performer can't see or breathe through the suit at all, the eyes aren't see-through and have no real holes letting us see the performer's eyes and there's no room for the performer to breathe at all.

[megaharv]

Now that I've had a day to step back and think about it some more, I think my issue is with the FNaF 3 minigame rather than FNaF 4. I've said before that the safe room that Purple Guy dies in never sat right with me. I'll go through it again though, because why else are we here? :p

First thing that bugs me is how the Spring Bonnie suit is sitting in a puddle. If breathing can set off the springlocks, then a puddle should have snapped them shut long before Purple Guy got a chance to hop in. He should still have had to crank the suit open and jump in before it slammed shut again. Not only that, we don't see Purple Guy with a crank in FNaF 3. So...I don't get how he got into the suit without a crank.

Then there is the whole Shadow Freddy thing. I'm under the impression that the way Purple Guy is leading the animatronics to the back room and dismantling them is supposed to symbolize how he murdered the children. I get that and I'm fine with that.

What I don't get is where the Shadow Freddy suit went to? When we finally see the saferoom there is no Freddy suit to be seen. No Shadow Freddy, no Golden Freddy, no Spring Freddy, nothing. Just Spring Bonnie. So what happened to the suit? I'm supposed to believe that Purple Guy led 4 animatronics to the back room with a Freddy suit of some sort, dismantled them, hid the Freddy suit and then got murdered by the spirits? That's sort of...odd don't you think? I don't think I'm mistaking the Spring Bonnie suit with a Golden Freddy suit in the dark, so what gives?

Letting go of that for now, I was reminded of this by gavtel (but glossed over it, my apologies) where in FNaF4 Night 4, we see a Spring Bonnie head on a shelf, and it's mouth is most certainly open, so maybe that's how it's supposed to look straight on?

[Rydi]

Like I said in another of my threads, there are some things (mainly game inconsistencies) that aren't meant to be questioned. I'm not sure if debating the whole Fredbear's vs Freddy's springlock suits' differences will take us anywhere. It hasn't been very productive so far xD

- Yes, there was a puddle (or maybe it's just rotten/rusty floor) but as long as moisture isn't in the springlocks it should be fine. What killed Purple man, more than any other factor involved, is the fact that he laughed on the springlocks. A laugh is basically strong breathing, so it went kaput.

- I think the cranks are included and kept somewhere in the suits themselves but I'm not sure of it, so Purple man wouldn't need to bring a crank from home but use the one the suits have. Whatever the case, he managed to wear the suit, so yeah.

- Shadow Freddy, ugh, that one's a tough nut to crack. I consider Shadow Freddy to be the representation of the Golden Freddy suit while worn by Purple man but we only get to see it through hallucinations. Golden Freddy obviously never turns Purple for real, but it's the way Scott has to tell us Purple man is inside of Golden Freddy when he looks Purple and has those eerie white eyes. I don't know if Shadow Freddy eventually became an entity of its own or it's just a hallucination that both the guards and the children's spirits can see. I don't think it's a real animatronic or that the real Golden Freddy suit was still present in FNAF 1 considering he never makes a physical appearance during the game and there are no spare parts for him in the backstage. I think Golden Freddy never returned to the pizzeria after the events of FNAF 2. So what is this Shadow Freddy thing?
---> It either is a ghost, but whom? Nobody died inside of Golden Freddy and the child that was meant to become Golden Freddy never really received the suit (hence his ghostly appearance)... So if it was the golden freddy child's spirit he should show as golden not as purple.

---> It's a hallucination that both guards and child spirits can see

---> It's indeed Purple man wearing Golden Freddy... But where did the suit come from? Where did it go afterwards?

---> It can't be a real animatronic possessed because those can't enter the saferoom at all.

So, go and think this through because it's quite a difficult mystery to solve!

[gavtel]

I actually think I have proof that Shadow Freddy might be a real character used in the restaurant... Even though it isn't Shadow Freddy that's represented by it. Remember the Paper Plates? The Bonnie one's purple, not blue. This means that a Purple Bonnie (Shadow Bonnie?) existed at some point and by extension that a Purple Freddy (Shadow Freddy) may have existed as well.

These may have been part of a sister location of Fredbear's since we know there were at least three locations because of "MOST Safe Rooms being sealed". Either that or these were the replacement suits that were mentioned in the tapes.

Maybe it's an apparition created of a character that once existed but no longer does...

[Rydi]

Originally posted by gavtel:

I actually think I have proof that Shadow Freddy might be a real character used in the restaurant... Even though it isn't Shadow Freddy that's represented by it. Remember the Paper Plates? The Bonnie one's purple, not blue. This means that a Purple Bonnie existed at some point and by extension that a Purple Freddy (Shadow Freddy) may have existed as well.

What makes you think Paper Plates represent real animatronics though? For all we know, they could be a representation of Purple man in all his stages:

- The colourful paper plate doll that we used to aliken to BB would be Purple man as his security guard/normal self. Notice those out of orbit eyes and that creepy smile? Just like Purple man's. This paperplate represents Purple man's past.

- The Black/Purple Freddy Paper Plate doll represents Purple man wearing Golden Freddy to kill the children in FNAF 2. Since these plates are seen for the first time in FNAF 2, this paperplate doll portray's Purple man's present. Notice his white eyes and smug smirk, he still thinks he can kill children and get away with it.

- The last paper plate doll features a Bonnie animatronic with a wonky face and tear stains (blood?) coming out of his eyes, one of his eyeballs is missing as well. This paperplate pal represents Purple man dying inside the Spring Bonnie suit, hence the wonky and creeped out expression in his face. This paper plate doll represents Purple man's future, dead inside the suit he first used to kill children over 10 years earlier.

[gavtel]

Even though it could symbolise Purple Man, it wouldn't make sense to have those be there without any physical version of them existing (to be drawn by the kids), unless it's all in the guard's imagination, which it can't be because both Jeremy AND Fritz see them, as well as the FNaF3 guard.

Maybe the Paper Pal was actually another Puppet, since we have the sad one, why not have a happy one to accompany it? This would also tie into the theatre masks for Comedy and Tragedy (since they were likely used for a different purpose in the past).

The Freddy doll is brown, with a brown hat and bowtie, not Purple / Black. This doesn't seem to be the Fredbear we see in FNaF4 (it's not yellow) or the Freddy from Take Cake to the Children (as it has a grey / black hat), meaning it's another version entirely (from an unimportant location, perhaps?). Something else to note is that this doesn't have the red stripe on the hat, meaning it can't be based on Toy Freddy, meaning it might have been re-used from an older location. I know that Golden Freddy from Stage 01 ALSO had a brown hat but his bowtie was black in that minigame meaning it isn't him either.

The Bonnie one is different though, Purple Guy still has both of his eyes, even by the time of FNaF3. Also the ear is still intact on this Paper Plate, meaning it isn't the same one from either FNaF3 or the end of night minigames (since in both, we can see that the ear is missing the upper half).