Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 9:09am
Who is Shadow Bonnie SOLVED.
Shadow Bonnie appeared as a secret character in FNaF2. Many of us were confused as to who he was, until FNaF3 when he appeared in the minigames. I've put all the facts together and found out who Shadow Bonnie TRULY IS.

In the Shadow Bonnie minigame in FNaF3 we see him appear next to Fredbear and Spring Bonnie. This minigame takes place in Fredbear's Diner. So we know that Shadow Bonnie first appeared in the Diner, but how? In FNaF4 remember the scene with Purple Man, when he's helping an employee into a Spring Bonnie suit? The employee dies as soon as the red doors slam shut (to symbolize an explosion of blood). We also see in the Night 4 cutscene the hair of the dead employee hanging out of the suit. This dead employee is Shadow Bonnie. It just makes sense. Plus it would explain why Shadow Bonnie has a different appearence from the others. He's just a ghost. The ghost of an employee we died in the faulty Spring Bonnie suit. Plus it explains him being able to pass through walls. Shadow Bonnie even looks like Spring Bonnie in a way. I know he's designed to look like Toy Bonnie, but he's a Shadow with only white eyes and teeth. I'd even argue his teeth look more like the teeth on Springtrap than Toy Bonnie.
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Elder Qu Nov 4, 2015 @ 9:30am 
Interesting theory, i never thought about the door like that well done
SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Qucat:
Interesting theory, i never thought about the door like that well done
Yeah, I think Scott made the door red for this very reason. Scott said he didn't really put any random Easter Eggs in the game.
The minigame in Fnaf 3 (I assume you're talking about STAGE 01) isn't Fredbears. That's Freddy Fazbears Pizza, before they had "normal" animatronics.

"...which is why the classic suits are being retired to an appropriate location..."

Why else would he call them the "classic suits" unless they came first?

And as for your theory, while I don't agree on the red doors, I do believe that the dead springlock entertainer we see in the saferoom on that one minigame (I believe it's night 4?) became Shadow Bonnie :D
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SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:
The minigame in Fnaf 3 (I assume you're talking about STAGE 01) isn't Fredbears. That's Freddy Fazbears Pizza, before they had "normal" animatronics.

"...which is why the classic suits are being retired to an appropriate location..."

Why else would he call them the "classic suits" unless they came first?

And as for your theory, while I don't agree on the red doors, I do believe that the dead springlock entertainer we see in the saferoom on that one minigame (I believe it's night 4?) became Shadow Bonnie :D
I'm pretty sure the dead employee in the Night 4 cutscene is the same employee we see with Purple Man, and for one thing the dead employee has the same brown hair.

As for your point about the "Stage 01" minigame being in the first FFP location, I disagree. Here my evidence. The "Stage 01" minigame was Fredbear's Diner, this is why it's called Stage 01, it's the very first location. Secondly the yellow suits are on stage, just like the stage we see in FNaF4 after Night 5.

Also, unlike most people think, all the animatronics were in Fredbear's Diner. We see them on the TV, as well as the bullies wearing the Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy masks. Still not convinced? Go back to FNaF2, Phone Guy says "I think the original name of the place was Fredbear's Family Diner or something like that". Why would he contact the owners of Fredbear's if it was only the yellow suits that were there? He's trying to get in contact to ask about the other animatronics, Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy. They were in Fredbear's, trust me.
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:
The minigame in Fnaf 3 (I assume you're talking about STAGE 01) isn't Fredbears. That's Freddy Fazbears Pizza, before they had "normal" animatronics.

"...which is why the classic suits are being retired to an appropriate location..."

Why else would he call them the "classic suits" unless they came first?

And as for your theory, while I don't agree on the red doors, I do believe that the dead springlock entertainer we see in the saferoom on that one minigame (I believe it's night 4?) became Shadow Bonnie :D
I'm pretty sure the dead employee in the Night 4 cutscene is the same employee we see with Purple Man, and for one thing the dead employee has the same brown hair.

As for your point about the "Stage 01" minigame being in the first FFP location, I disagree. Here my evidence. The "Stage 01" minigame was Fredbear's Diner, this is why it's called Stage 01, it's the very first location. Secondly the yellow suits are on stage, just like the stage we see in FNaF4 after Night 5.

Also, unlike most people think, all the animatronics were in Fredbear's Diner. We see them on the TV, as well as the bullies wearing the Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy masks. Still not convinced? Go back to FNaF2, Phone Guy says "I think the original name of the place was Fredbear's Family Diner or something like that". Why would he contact the owners of Fredbear's if it was only the yellow suits that were there? He's trying to get in contact to ask about the other animatronics, Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy. They were in Fredbear's, trust me.

I do mean that the springlock entertainer that died was the one we see with Purple Guy; I just don't agree that he dies right there on the spot.

As for STAGE 01, the suits we see on screen were Golden Freddy and Springtrap, before the Original Four were made into actual animatronics. This is the original Freddy Fazbears Pizza, looking just like Fredbears. However, they later got the Original Four. As for the masks and plushies, this is exactly what I mean. They existed at the same time, just in different locations. Phone Guy was contacting Fredbears to get information on Purple Guy, for he had murdered another 5 sets of children and so they were trying to get more information to get him in jail.
SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
I'm pretty sure the dead employee in the Night 4 cutscene is the same employee we see with Purple Man, and for one thing the dead employee has the same brown hair.

As for your point about the "Stage 01" minigame being in the first FFP location, I disagree. Here my evidence. The "Stage 01" minigame was Fredbear's Diner, this is why it's called Stage 01, it's the very first location. Secondly the yellow suits are on stage, just like the stage we see in FNaF4 after Night 5.

Also, unlike most people think, all the animatronics were in Fredbear's Diner. We see them on the TV, as well as the bullies wearing the Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy masks. Still not convinced? Go back to FNaF2, Phone Guy says "I think the original name of the place was Fredbear's Family Diner or something like that". Why would he contact the owners of Fredbear's if it was only the yellow suits that were there? He's trying to get in contact to ask about the other animatronics, Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy. They were in Fredbear's, trust me.

I do mean that the springlock entertainer that died was the one we see with Purple Guy; I just don't agree that he dies right there on the spot.

As for STAGE 01, the suits we see on screen were Golden Freddy and Springtrap, before the Original Four were made into actual animatronics. This is the original Freddy Fazbears Pizza, looking just like Fredbears. However, they later got the Original Four. As for the masks and plushies, this is exactly what I mean. They existed at the same time, just in different locations. Phone Guy was contacting Fredbears to get information on Purple Guy, for he had murdered another 5 sets of children and so they were trying to get more information to get him in jail.
Yeah, the employee died, I guess thats the point.

Although, all the animatronics were at Fredbear's. It's just that Fredbear and Spring Bonnie were the main attractions. Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy had to have been in Fredbear's. How else would the FNaF4 kid know what they look like. He has to know what they look like to have nightmares about them. Small details tell us he's seen the animatronics in real life. For example; he knows that Chica has two sets of teeth (costume teeth and endoskeleton teeth). So he has nightmares about Chica having multiple rows of teeth. All the notable features of the animatronics are made scary as can be in his nightmare. And he can't know what they look like just from the masks alone that the bullies wear.
Last edited by SkyZombie5; Nov 4, 2015 @ 4:02pm
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:

I do mean that the springlock entertainer that died was the one we see with Purple Guy; I just don't agree that he dies right there on the spot.

As for STAGE 01, the suits we see on screen were Golden Freddy and Springtrap, before the Original Four were made into actual animatronics. This is the original Freddy Fazbears Pizza, looking just like Fredbears. However, they later got the Original Four. As for the masks and plushies, this is exactly what I mean. They existed at the same time, just in different locations. Phone Guy was contacting Fredbears to get information on Purple Guy, for he had murdered another 5 sets of children and so they were trying to get more information to get him in jail.
Yeah, the employee died, I guess thats the point.

Although, all the animatronics were at Fredbear's, it's just that Fredbear and Spring Bonnie were the main attractions. Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy had to have been in Fredbear's. How else would the FNaF4 kid know what they look like. He has to know what they look like. Small details tell us he's seen the animatronics in real life. For example; he knows that Chica has two sets of teeth (costume teeth and endoskeleton teeth). So he has nightmares about Chica having multiple rows of teeth. All the notable features of the animatronics are made scary as can be in his nightmare. And he can't know what they look like just from the masks alone that the bullies wear.

Glad we can agree on something :D

Anyways, at first he knew about them only through the plushies and T.V. show. However, because of the incident that happened at Fredbears, he and his family (to avoid further trauma) were relocated to Freddy Fazbears Pizza, about a neighborhood away. This is were the kid saw the Original Four. Looking at what we can see in Fredbears, there are about three "rooms"; the stage and the sections leading up to it, the changing room we see Purple Guy and the springlock entertainer in, and the saferoom we see in the Night four minigame. So, there weren't really any other rooms where they could be in. Fredbears Family Diner also had no pictures of any one else, not even SpringBonnie. So, I think we can conclude that Freddy and the Gang were in a different pizzeria.

"As always, remember to smile; you are the face of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza
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SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Yeah, the employee died, I guess thats the point.

Although, all the animatronics were at Fredbear's, it's just that Fredbear and Spring Bonnie were the main attractions. Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy had to have been in Fredbear's. How else would the FNaF4 kid know what they look like. He has to know what they look like. Small details tell us he's seen the animatronics in real life. For example; he knows that Chica has two sets of teeth (costume teeth and endoskeleton teeth). So he has nightmares about Chica having multiple rows of teeth. All the notable features of the animatronics are made scary as can be in his nightmare. And he can't know what they look like just from the masks alone that the bullies wear.

Glad we can agree on something :D

Anyways, at first he knew about them only through the plushies and T.V. show. However, because of the incident that happened at Fredbears, he and his family (to avoid further trauma) were relocated to Freddy Fazbears Pizza, about a neighborhood away. This is were the kid saw the Original Four. Looking at what we can see in Fredbears, there are about three "rooms"; the stage and the sections leading up to it, the changing room we see Purple Guy and the springlock entertainer in, and the saferoom we see in the Night four minigame. So, there weren't really any other rooms where they could be in. Fredbears Family Diner also had no pictures of any one else, not even SpringBonnie. So, I think we can conclude that Freddy and the Gang were in a different pizzeria.

"As always, remember to smile; you are the face of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza
Everybody talks about there being a FFP location running at the same time as Fredbear's Diner. I disgree with this because on the TV we see "Fredbear and Friends 1983". This shows us that they were all the same company and weren't different companies running at the same time. Plus the Purple Man couldn't have been working at FFP because he killed the kids in a FFP location. I don't think they would let him work there again in FNaF2 ;)
MC Screwdriver Nov 4, 2015 @ 5:16pm 
You could've just said Shadow Bonnie was a ghost of an employee and not have to right an essay ._.
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:

Glad we can agree on something :D

Anyways, at first he knew about them only through the plushies and T.V. show. However, because of the incident that happened at Fredbears, he and his family (to avoid further trauma) were relocated to Freddy Fazbears Pizza, about a neighborhood away. This is were the kid saw the Original Four. Looking at what we can see in Fredbears, there are about three "rooms"; the stage and the sections leading up to it, the changing room we see Purple Guy and the springlock entertainer in, and the saferoom we see in the Night four minigame. So, there weren't really any other rooms where they could be in. Fredbears Family Diner also had no pictures of any one else, not even SpringBonnie. So, I think we can conclude that Freddy and the Gang were in a different pizzeria.

"As always, remember to smile; you are the face of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza
Everybody talks about there being a FFP location running at the same time as Fredbear's Diner. I disgree with this because on the TV we see "Fredbear and Friends 1983". This shows us that they were all the same company and weren't different companies running at the same time. Plus the Purple Man couldn't have been working at FFP because he killed the kids in a FFP location. I don't think they would let him work there again in FNaF2 ;)

That's just the thing. They were sister locations. No, Purple Guy did not work at FFP. He worked at Fredbears Family Diner. However, he had a crank and knowledge on how to work springlock suits. So, he went to Freddys and took the Springtrap costume, lured the kids into the saferoom, finding blind spots in the cameras along the way (he demonstrated this skill in Fnaf 3), and fled. FFP realized the suits had been used, and after finding a presumably bloody room, sealed the murder weapon in the saferoom and placed the blame on the springlock entertainer at the time.

"Management has also been made aware that the spring Bonnie animatronic has been noticeably moved."
>Purple Guy used it to kill the children
"Nothing is being taken out beforehand, so if you've left anything inside, then it's your own fault. Management also requests that this room not be mentioned to family, friends or insurance representatives."
>They're sealing Springtrap up because, well, you can't get shut down if the murder weapon isn't found, right? They also don't want anyone to talk about this. Why? BECAUSE CHILDREN WERE MURDERED IN IT. So, Purple Guy had a clean slate. He found out they were reopening and was probably absolutely giddy!

"Go there, Oh hey look! Another springlock costume! God, it was Spring Freddy or something right? Oh well, l better go use this to murder kids!"
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SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Mr. FNaF Guy:
You could've just said Shadow Bonnie was a ghost of an employee and not have to right an essay ._.
Hey, Scott put all this stuff in for us to figure it out. It wouldn't be as appealing of a story if everyone said "Oh, the whole FNaF story is blah blah, kids killed, blah blah, possess animatronics, blah blah, killer dies, blah blah, kids at peace, blah blah". The story is really detailed.
SkyZombie5 Nov 4, 2015 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Gluten_Free_Galactic_Foxy:
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Everybody talks about there being a FFP location running at the same time as Fredbear's Diner. I disgree with this because on the TV we see "Fredbear and Friends 1983". This shows us that they were all the same company and weren't different companies running at the same time. Plus the Purple Man couldn't have been working at FFP because he killed the kids in a FFP location. I don't think they would let him work there again in FNaF2 ;)

That's just the thing. They were sister locations. No, Purple Guy did not work at FFP. He worked at Fredbears Family Diner. However, he had a crank and knowledge on how to work springlock suits. So, he went to Freddys and took the Springtrap costume, lured the kids into the saferoom, finding blind spots in the cameras along the way (he demonstrated this skill in Fnaf 3), and fled. FFP realized the suits had been used, and after finding a presumably bloody room, sealed the murder weapon in the saferoom and placed the blame on the springlock entertainer at the time.

"Management has also been made aware that the spring Bonnie animatronic has been noticeably moved."
>Purple Guy used it to kill the children
"Nothing is being taken out beforehand, so if you've left anything inside, then it's your own fault. Management also requests that this room not be mentioned to family, friends or insurance representatives."
>They're sealing Springtrap up because, well, you can't get shut down if the murder weapon isn't found, right? They also don't want anyone to talk about this. Why? BECAUSE CHILDREN WERE MURDERED IN IT. So, Purple Guy had a clean slate. He found out they were reopening and was probably absolutely giddy!

"Go there, Oh hey look! Another springlock costume! God, it was Spring Freddy or something right? Oh well, l better go use this to murder kids!"

I really wish everybody would stop assuming that Game Theory is 100% on everything that they say. They aren't. No offence to MatPat or any of the Game Theory crew, they do awsome theories, especially on FNaF, they got most stuff right about FNaF2, Scott confired this. However they can be wrong. They're called theories after all as MatPat says. But they introduced this idea of the Purple Man using the Spring Bonnie suit to kill the kids. He didn't, he always uses Golden Freddy, Phone Guy tells us in FNaF2. "We had a spare in the back, a yellow one.....someone used it." The training tapes were make in the FNaF1 location, NOT the first FFP. When the Phone Guy talks about the Spring Bonnie animatronic being moved, it was when the Purple Man died in it. The safe room was then boreded up with the dead Purple Man inside it, and then opened 30 years later by the Phone Dude, who found Springtrap and then took him to Fazbear's Fright. And before you say "Purple Man took down the fake wall and got into the safe room after it had been boreded up". The Phone Dude says "One of the guys who designed one of the buildings said there was an extra room that got boreded up. We're gonna take a peak and see what we can find". The safe room was boreded up with Purple Man inside. THIS is what the Phone Guy was referring to when he said the Spring Bonnie animatronic has been moved and the safe room was being boreded up.
Last edited by SkyZombie5; Nov 4, 2015 @ 7:09pm
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Originally posted by SkyZombie5:
Everybody talks about there being a FFP location running at the same time as Fredbear's Diner. I disgree with this because on the TV we see "Fredbear and Friends 1983". This shows us that they were all the same company and weren't different companies running at the same time. Plus the Purple Man couldn't have been working at FFP because he killed the kids in a FFP location. I don't think they would let him work there again in FNaF2 ;)

That's just the thing. They were sister locations. No, Purple Guy did not work at FFP. He worked at Fredbears Family Diner. However, he had a crank and knowledge on how to work springlock suits. So, he went to Freddys and took the Springtrap costume, lured the kids into the saferoom, finding blind spots in the cameras along the way (he demonstrated this skill in Fnaf 3), and fled. FFP realized the suits had been used, and after finding a presumably bloody room, sealed the murder weapon in the saferoom and placed the blame on the springlock entertainer at the time.

"Management has also been made aware that the spring Bonnie animatronic has been noticeably moved."
>Purple Guy used it to kill the children
"Nothing is being taken out beforehand, so if you've left anything inside, then it's your own fault. Management also requests that this room not be mentioned to family, friends or insurance representatives."
>They're sealing Springtrap up because, well, you can't get shut down if the murder weapon isn't found, right? They also don't want anyone to talk about this. Why? BECAUSE CHILDREN WERE MURDERED IN IT. So, Purple Guy had a clean slate. He found out they were reopening and was probably absolutely giddy!

"Go there, Oh hey look! Another springlock costume! God, it was Spring Freddy or something right? Oh well, l better go use this to murder kids!"
I really wish everybody would stop assuming that Game Theory is 100% on everything that they say. They aren't. No offence to MatPat or any of the Game Theory crew, they do awsome theories, especially on FNaF, they got most stuff right about FNaF2 Scott says. However they can be wrong. They're called theories after all as MatPat says. But they introduced this idea of the Purple Man using the Spring Bonnie suit to kill the kids. He didn't, he always uses Golden Freddy, Phone Guy tells us in FNaF2. "We had a spare in the back, a yellow one.....someone used it." The training tapes were make in the FNaF1 location, NOT the first FFP. When the Phone Guy talks about the Spring Bonnie animatronic being moved, it was when the Purple Man died in it. The safe room was then boreded up with the dead Purple Man inside it, and then opened 30 years later by the Phone Dude, who found Springtrap and then took him to Fazbear's Fright. And before you say "Purple Man took down the fake wall and got into the safe room after it had been boreded up, the Phone Dude says "One of the guys who designed one of the buildings said there was an extra room that got boreded up. We're gonna take a peak and see what we can find". The safe room was boreded up with Purple Man inside. THIS is what the Phone Guy was referring to when he said the Spring Bonnie animatronic has been moved and the safe room was being boreded up. [/quote]


He used Golden Freddy for Fnaf 2 murders, but the first set was Springtrap. Trust me, I'm not a big fan of Game Theory. But the suit used was definitely Springtrap (for the first set). What makes you think the training tapes were at Fnaf 1? Because it seems to me like the stuff I'm about to list will disprove it. If it was in the Fnaf 1 location, then how come we don't see any drawings of said springlock suits? Fnaf 1 didn't have any sister locations, as it opened WITH A SMALLER BUDGET. So what is Phone Guy talking about? How come the building looks abandoned if it's supposed to be used, eh?

The guys at Fazbears Fright hadn't been to it yet. The building designer only remembered what had happened to it the last time he was there.

"One of the guys who designed one of the buildings said there was an extra room that got boarded up. We're gonna take a peak and see what we can find."

They hadn't been there yet. The quote YOU provided illustrates this perfectly. And unless the building designer checked in on the place everyday, he wouldn't know that Big Purple had torn it down.
Mythicore Nov 4, 2015 @ 7:28pm 
remember the live stream with matpat what is seen in the shadows is often misunderstood in the eyes of... i dont remember the rest but that is probably important
SkyZombie5 Nov 5, 2015 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Zaynarai:
remember the live stream with matpat what is seen in the shadows is often misunderstood in the eyes of... i dont remember the rest but that is probably important
Yeah, I think this is telling us that he's afraid of the shadows on the wall. This probably fuels his nightmare. Look at Nightmare, he's basically just a shadow of Nightmare Fredbear.
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