Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 7:39am
Proof FNaF 1 takes place in 1992. Not 1993!
GAH! I can't believe I didn't notice this until now! FNaF 1 can't take place in 1993 because the calendar doesn't match up!

The minimum wage for April 1991- October 1995 is $4.25 and Mike earned $4.00 per an hour not including tax since $120.00 for the 5 days of 6 hours he worked (120 divided by 30) is 4. But paychecks do not include the income tax that is taken out before the final check. And average income tax times would be like 30% averagely and stuff making the REAL hourly wage for Mike about $4.50 so. Lower than $4.75 in 1996 anyway.

So why not 1993? We know night shift workers start their week on Sunday since it's the first day of the week and this is proven by the fact that you start on Sunday in FNaF 2. (Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5, so Sunday is night 6.)

The paychecks for FNaF 1 has November 12 on night 5 (Thursday) and November 13 on night 6 (Friday) (Saturday or night 7 is custom night as usual.). BUT look at the 1993 calendar: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1993&country=1

Thursday is the 11th and Friday is the 12th in 1993 meaning CANNOT be the year.

The only year that fits the dates with Thursday on the 12th and Friday on the 13th from 1991 to 1995 is 1992: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1992&country=1

I went back to MatPat's video and MatPat only guessed 1993 because this is when his theory about the real life Chucky Cheese incident happened. He mentioned nothing of the real life calendars that are actually in 1993.
Last edited by Evo; Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:14am
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Rydi Oct 30, 2015 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by gavtel:
"Fake locations" - "MOST locations" (Nightmare, FNaF3), gets mentioned when the Safe Rooms are closed, meaning there ARE more locations than just two.

Yes, other locations existed, the ones you're making up -- however -- did not. The rest of locations aren't mentioned in the saga because nothing of relevance happened there. We're only told of events happening at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and Fredbear's Family Diner because they were key to the development of the story. If there were Freddy Fazbear's Steak House or Fredbear's Hooter's, it is of no relevance to the story. That's why we can rule out the possibility that Fredbear & Friends is a restaurant at all. Scott went out of his way to mention Fredbear's Family Diner because events of importance happened there, but we're never told of any other location therefore you can't just make them appear from nowhere just because your theory is flawed.

Originally posted by gavtel:
"Fake loans" - Says the person that I got the idea from (since you mentioned it in one of our earlier discussions)... Seriously?

Random hypothesis in random threads have nothing to do with my theory though. In my theory (which I'm going to post in an hour or so) you won't find a single loan. If people propose ideas, I contribute with other ideas, but it doesn't mean it's a part of my concept theory. I'm glad my own random ideas can inspire new thoughts in yours but honestly, that's not included in my theory.

Originally posted by gavtel:
"two weeks and a day" - "open for a few short weeks" (Night 6 Newspaper), a few short weeks suggests three OR four weeks not two. Short merely refers to how quickly time seems to have gone by.

The first guy finished his week but complained about "conditions" -- Week #1 Purple Man
You're only the second guard to work in that location -- Week #2 Jeremy as nightguard
We don't have a replacement for your shift yet but we're working on it - Extra shift (Fritz)

In fact, we might just be short of a day in those two weeks since Jeremy works 6 days as night guard, not 7. Before Jeremy takes the last day shift, the newspaper already claims the pizzeria is closing after being open for a few short weeks and the animatronics are being scrapped for possible malfunctions. Not the kind of press you'd want if you're going to remain open for two more weeks. Even Phone guy is telling Jeremy they have one more event the following day and how he'll take the night shift in the future.

FNAF 2 was only open for 2 weeks, and out of those two weeks they spent two days closed to the public due to the investigation, there's no way around that.


Originally posted by gavtel:
Third Paragraph - Easy, the location was bought out and the possessions of said location were scrapped completely (thrown away by the new owners of the location / re-used entirely by Freddy Fazbear's to make other animatronics). Why keep scraps of paper of a character that no longer is used at the location, the FNaF2 location might have not been bought out which would explain the Toys being there but Fredbear's was cheaper and was easy for smaller businesses to buy out than the FNaF2 location (a reason why it would get bought out instead).

If they left their original building after the first crimes to get a new and better one to leave their bad reputation behind, why would they EVER BUY a location with an already pre-existing bad reputation? Error 404 - Logic not found!

They had to return to the original pizzeria where the crimes were committed after FNAF 2 because they owned the place and had no money for anything else. So why would they BUY another location, smaller than the one in FNAF 2, with a pre-existing bad reputation? Makes no sense. They had building A in the original pizzeria, after the crimes they moved to building B to start anew (FNAF 2), but after even more crimes, they had no money and were forced to return to their old buildng A (FNAF 1) because they couldn't afford anything else.
Fredbear's Family Diner, building C, doesn't fit in that equation, the sooner you accept it, the better your theorizing will be.


Originally posted by gavtel:
Fourth Paragraph - The way he just changes the subject, makes it seem like he's talking about something else rather than the lockdown that he was just talking about. ALSO previous employees does not necessarily refer to the Purple Guy, it may refer to a janitor, higher up in the company OR any other job position in the company. This could mean that Purple Guy deliberately got himself fired by tampering with Freddy, after disabling the cameras (to hide the evidence, he disabled them and hid a few out of camera view (Main Hall and Show Stage). After getting himself fired from that location, the police found somebody else who they suspected, which Purple Guy pinned the blame on. This allows him to get away with his crimes, work at the Fredbear-like location and eventually die inside of Springtrap (which occurred inbetween FNaF1 and 2 since the Safe Rooms were sealed when they found him). ALSO "Fredbear & Friends", 1983 (Phone Guy mentions that the animatronics have been used for 20 years, meaning that they had some sort of collaberation in 1983 OR a buyout after FFP went down).

"Hey, good job, night 5! Um, hey, um, keep a close eye on things tonight, ok? Um, from what I understand, the building is on lockdown, uh, no one is allowed in or out, y'know, especially concerning any...previous employees. Um, when we get it all sorted out, we may move you to the day shift, a position just became...available. Uh, we don't have a replacement for your shift yet, but we're working on it. Uh, we're going to try to contact the original restaurant owner. Uh, I think the name of the place was..."Fredbear's Family Diner" or something like that. It's been closed for years though, I doubt we'll be able to track anybody down."

Ok, read it all now and tell me if it's out of place. Cause the only thing out of place would be telling Jeremy they don't have a replacement for him yet, the rest of the conversation is focused in the same topic: the investigation, the day shift guy being the prime suspect and their quest to find info about him from the old location at which he used to work.

Telling Jeremy about a new restaurant they plan on opening with the owners of the restaurant where employees were maimed and children crunched would be out of place for real. The only thing we hear about a new location is that Phone guy would take the night shift and that the CEO in the newspaper hopes to reopen SOMEDAY = no plans to reopen anytime soon with Fredbear's.

All this thing you've made up about Purple man putting the blame on someone else and yada yada couldn't be more incorrect. But if you want to believe that, even though the game clearly tells us Purple man fled ONLY after the investigation pointed towards him being the culprit and that the building was on lockdown precisely to catch him if he returned... well, to each their own.

*facepalms at the saferoom comment* I don't even want to go that route again. Believe what you want.

Originally posted by gavtel:
Also my theory would mean that the Bite hadn't occurred yet, thus rebuying the old lovable mascot, from back when the Spring Suits didn't exist and turning him INTO one, would make a bit more sense. With those problems occuring after the conversion into a Spring Suit.

Didn't you just say they bought the place but scrapped everything else? And wrong, it's precisely in 1987 when the springlock suits no longer exist, the only remaining one is Golden Freddy and he's just "a spare in the back". The springlock suits were used in the original pizzeria and diner (the real sister locations mentioned in the training cassettes, you know), after their safety issues they were decommissioned, reason why Golden Freddy is not in use in FNAF 2 and why this location you guys keep inventing where the springlock suits are created or brought back to life, is not real. It doesn't fit AT ALL with the FNAF 3 training cassettes, make up as much of the story as you want but that won't do.

Also, if this happened at a totally different location with a STATIC springlock suit, why do the withered-then-fixed-non-springlock-based animatronics in a DIFFERENT/SISTER LOCATION pizzeria (FNAF 1) get stripped of their ability to roam around? How does that make any sense? Accept it, the bite was caused by an animatronic who was roaming through the restaurant, there's no reason to keep them in place if the bite happened with a static animatronic not moving from the stage!
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Rydi Oct 30, 2015 @ 1:34pm 
Congratulations! You've made up more story than Scott himself! You may want to create your own game because none of that is even remotely hinted at by the game.

julthepanda3 Dec 27, 2017 @ 3:11pm 
If FNaF 1 did take place in 1992, how does the bite of 87' occur if they weren't open? It's been proven that the bite from FredBear's Diner and The bite of '87 were two different scenarios. So when WAS FNaF 1 really taken place in? I did some research of my own and found that in 1976 those dates match for November 11th (Thursday) and November 12th (Friday). That would mean the Bite of '87 could happen.
Explorer Mar 30, 2019 @ 2:30am 
I know this is pretty old, but I like how it helps with the timeline better.
Evo May 26, 2019 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by ShyExplorer:
I know this is pretty old, but I like how it helps with the timeline better.
Well, looking back at this theory, it still works but could likely not be correct. It really depends if FNaF 1 starts on a Monday or a Sunday. If Sunday, then 1992. If Monday, then 1993. The thing is FNaF 6 has a recording recorded by Henry called HRY-223 for the Insanity ending. Scott usually shortened words like this since SL such as BBY being shortened for Baby or AFN for Afton. HRY-223 is short for Henry 2023. Meaning Henry did the recording for the Insanity ending recording in 2023. FNaF 6 takes place some months after FNaF 3 (Since the narrator/Handunit suggests the animatronics have been trying to get in for months.) and could possibly be in the same year. FNaF 3 takes place 30 years after Freddys closed at the end of the year shortly after FNaF 1. 2023 minus 30 is 1993. That means that could be when FNaF 1 takes place. BUT if we take what the narrator said literally about it being months since the animatronics have been trying to get in, then it would make a lot more sense if FNaF 1 is in 1992 since FNaF 3 is 30 years after the FNaF 1 location closes and FNaF 1 is in November. Months after November would be in the next year which means FNaF 1 taking place in 1993 would mean the recording for the insanity ending would have to be in 2024, which it wasn't. Though this depends if you're being picky with it being at least 30 years and while the Insanity ending was recorded in 2023, FNaF 6 may not happen in the same year.

So I'm just going with the conclusion that FNaF 1 is in 1993 since I don't think Scott would want to make it that complicated. Thanks for checking out this old post!
Last edited by Evo; May 26, 2019 @ 5:10pm
Zoopy Jun 28, 2019 @ 12:11pm 
DID ANY1 ESLE SEE GOALDIN FREADY1!!?!
Khemically Jul 16, 2019 @ 11:21am 
The date on the paycheck in fnaf 2 is 1987 you dense cabbage
Alex Slater Jul 22, 2019 @ 5:47pm 
This is brilliant Evy!
CaptConrad Mar 3, 2020 @ 6:22pm 
So does this mean FNAF 3 takes place in 2022?
Originally posted by Evy:
GAH! I can't believe I didn't notice this until now! FNaF 1 can't take place in 1993 because the calendar doesn't match up!

The minimum wage for April 1991- October 1995 is $4.25 and Mike earned $4.00 per an hour not including tax since $120.00 for the 5 days of 6 hours he worked (120 divided by 30) is 4. But paychecks do not include the income tax that is taken out before the final check. And average income tax times would be like 30% averagely and stuff making the REAL hourly wage for Mike about $4.50 so. Lower than $4.75 in 1996 anyway.

So why not 1993? We know night shift workers start their week on Sunday since it's the first day of the week and this is proven by the fact that you start on Sunday in FNaF 2. (Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5, so Sunday is night 6.)

The paychecks for FNaF 1 has November 12 on night 5 (Thursday) and November 13 on night 6 (Friday) (Saturday or night 7 is custom night as usual.). BUT look at the 1993 calendar: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1993&country=1

Thursday is the 11th and Friday is the 12th in 1993 meaning CANNOT be the year.

The only year that fits the dates with Thursday on the 12th and Friday on the 13th from 1991 to 1995 is 1992: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1992&country=1

I went back to MatPat's video and MatPat only guessed 1993 because this is when his theory about the real life Chucky Cheese incident happened. He mentioned nothing of the real life calendars that are actually in 1993.



♥♥♥♥ OFF OK. HE DONE HARD WORK LOOK I THOUGHT IT WAS 1993 COS THE WAY OF THE CHECK LOOK CANT YOU LOT BE GLAD SOME ONE DONE HARD WORK AND GONE oh wow thanks man thanks for doing the hard work cos a brain like me cant find that out and hell at least this man thors are right not like mat pat oh i thought phone guy is puple man oh and mike was the bite so look thank sir for doing the work for me now my theros are ez
Originally posted by CaptConrad:
So does this mean FNAF 3 takes place in 2022?
yes
Originally posted by AiRwOlFe23:
The date on the paycheck in fnaf 2 is 1987 you dense cabbage
yeah but in fnaf 1 dumb ass
Robo7 Sep 24, 2020 @ 3:04pm 
well.. if we take a look at the year fnaf 3 takes place in.. it would be 2023

so then if it was 31 years after fnaf 1 and it was 1992 since then..

then you're correct.

BUT..

if it was 30 years then it would be 1993 in fnaf 1

*ace attorney desk slam*

Then you would be wrong.

but we'll see.
Last edited by Robo7; Sep 24, 2020 @ 3:05pm
FB Bezl Aug 8, 2023 @ 2:46pm 
1993 is my birthyear don´t say 1992 it must be 1993 all right
Robo7 Aug 8, 2023 @ 3:07pm 
true
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