Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 7:39am
Proof FNaF 1 takes place in 1992. Not 1993!
GAH! I can't believe I didn't notice this until now! FNaF 1 can't take place in 1993 because the calendar doesn't match up!

The minimum wage for April 1991- October 1995 is $4.25 and Mike earned $4.00 per an hour not including tax since $120.00 for the 5 days of 6 hours he worked (120 divided by 30) is 4. But paychecks do not include the income tax that is taken out before the final check. And average income tax times would be like 30% averagely and stuff making the REAL hourly wage for Mike about $4.50 so. Lower than $4.75 in 1996 anyway.

So why not 1993? We know night shift workers start their week on Sunday since it's the first day of the week and this is proven by the fact that you start on Sunday in FNaF 2. (Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5, so Sunday is night 6.)

The paychecks for FNaF 1 has November 12 on night 5 (Thursday) and November 13 on night 6 (Friday) (Saturday or night 7 is custom night as usual.). BUT look at the 1993 calendar: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1993&country=1

Thursday is the 11th and Friday is the 12th in 1993 meaning CANNOT be the year.

The only year that fits the dates with Thursday on the 12th and Friday on the 13th from 1991 to 1995 is 1992: http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=1992&country=1

I went back to MatPat's video and MatPat only guessed 1993 because this is when his theory about the real life Chucky Cheese incident happened. He mentioned nothing of the real life calendars that are actually in 1993.
Last edited by Evo; Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:14am
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Tighty-Whitey Oct 30, 2015 @ 7:41am 
Ugh.... And ?
Rezalzalah Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Adventure Jessica HawlSera:
This literally doesn't change anything about the plot. You might as well have said "Chica's parents were Libertarians who wanted to end food stamps, ban fire codes and labor laws, and legealize all drugs, while Bonnie's parents were liberals who if they were alive today would have voted for Bernie Sanders but sadly died in a tragic train accident just three days after the missing children incident."

Doesn't really change anything about the plot regardless of whether or not its true. (And I imagine FNAF World will take this "Same Universe, Same Characters, New Details don't effect anything about FNAF 1-4")

One of the biggest problems I think theorists have is over thinking and obsessing on small details that.. although may be interesting.. ultimately change nothing about what we know of the story.
in my opinion, (don't hate me) that is very good thinking! good job evan!
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Lucky Boy:
Ugh.... And ?
Well... I wanted to correct something, so I did.
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by oculous (gibus to unusual):
Originally posted by Adventure Jessica HawlSera:
This literally doesn't change anything about the plot. You might as well have said "Chica's parents were Libertarians who wanted to end food stamps, ban fire codes and labor laws, and legealize all drugs, while Bonnie's parents were liberals who if they were alive today would have voted for Bernie Sanders but sadly died in a tragic train accident just three days after the missing children incident."

Doesn't really change anything about the plot regardless of whether or not its true. (And I imagine FNAF World will take this "Same Universe, Same Characters, New Details don't effect anything about FNAF 1-4")

One of the biggest problems I think theorists have is over thinking and obsessing on small details that.. although may be interesting.. ultimately change nothing about what we know of the story.
in my opinion, (don't hate me) that is very good thinking! good job evan!
Thank you VERY much! ;)
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by oculous (gibus to unusual):
Originally posted by Adventure Jessica HawlSera:
This literally doesn't change anything about the plot. You might as well have said "Chica's parents were Libertarians who wanted to end food stamps, ban fire codes and labor laws, and legealize all drugs, while Bonnie's parents were liberals who if they were alive today would have voted for Bernie Sanders but sadly died in a tragic train accident just three days after the missing children incident."

Doesn't really change anything about the plot regardless of whether or not its true. (And I imagine FNAF World will take this "Same Universe, Same Characters, New Details don't effect anything about FNAF 1-4")

One of the biggest problems I think theorists have is over thinking and obsessing on small details that.. although may be interesting.. ultimately change nothing about what we know of the story.
in my opinion, (don't hate me) that is very good thinking! good job evan!
Knowing the dates is STILL fundamental to the story. Such as when Phone Guy says the animatronics have been signing the same songs for 20 years prior to his recording. Which we assume is 20 years prior to FNaF 1 meaning Freddy Fazbear opened in 1972, not 1973.
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Adventure Jessica HawlSera:
Originally posted by Evan:
Knowing the dates is STILL fundamental to the story. Such as when Phone Guy says the animatronics have been signing the same songs for 20 years prior to his recording. Which we assume is 20 years prior to FNaF 1 meaning Freddy Fazbear opened in 1972, not 1973.

And what difference to the plot does one year make?
If FNaF 2 didn't happen 1987 then we wouldn't know the Bite of 87 would be around the time of FNaF 2.

Even if this doesn't affect the plot, I still feel like it's the right thing to do to correct people and help us understand the lore.
Jorjimodels Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:26am 
Originally posted by Evan:
Originally posted by Adventure Jessica HawlSera:

And what difference to the plot does one year make?
If FNaF 2 didn't happen 1987 then we wouldn't know the Bite of 87 would be around the time of FNaF 2.

Even if this doesn't affect the plot, I still feel like it's the right thing to do to correct people and help us understand the lore.
Then how do you explain the "87" date paycheck in FNaF 2?
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 8:27am 
The second sentence was about FNaF 1 btw. (Not trying to confuse you.)
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Zephkiel Oct 30, 2015 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Evan:
this is proven by the fact that you start on Sunday in FNaF 2. (Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5, so Sunday is night 6.)

Explain this part to me (there's a typo btw). How do we know Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5? I don't know how paychecks work, but I always assumed the billing cycle was Mon-Fri (the 5 days) with a cheque at the end, then individual overtime cheques for Saturday and Sunday.
Rydi Oct 30, 2015 @ 9:25am 
Yep. I've been saying it took place in 1992 for a while now. Mainly because 1992 is also the only year where November has a Friday the 13th.
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by Rydi:
Yep. I've been saying it took place in 1992 for a while now. Mainly because 1992 is also the only year where November has a Friday the 13th.
Cool! :)
Evo Oct 30, 2015 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Zephkiel:
Originally posted by Evan:
this is proven by the fact that you start on Sunday in FNaF 2. (Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5, so Sunday is night 6.)

Explain this part to me (there's a typo btw). How do we know Friday is night 6 and Thursday is night 5? I don't know how paychecks work, but I always assumed the billing cycle was Mon-Fri (the 5 days) with a cheque at the end, then individual overtime cheques for Saturday and Sunday.

If you look at an acutal calendar of 1987, the 12th is on Thursday and the 13th is on Friday. Checks can start on Sunday too!
gavtel Oct 30, 2015 @ 10:52am 
Maybe he was payed late, making the dates incorrect. The guard might have worked in the Summer, the place closed and it took Fazbear Entertainment a while to get enough money to pay him with (they might have taken out a loan), meaning they opened another location not long after the FNaF2 location's closure. This location could have been the FNaF1 location (unlikely because of the end of night minigames in FNaF3) or a sister location (Spring Suits perhaps) and another location (where Stage 01 took place / tapes?). Keep in mind that Phone Guy only said "Freddy Fazbear's Pizza", he didn't say which one or the year (it could have been ANY of the Freddy Fazbear's Pizza locations (the "previous location", FNaF1's (though it's still unlikely) or another location at another time). They could have gotten the rights to Fredbear at any point in the timeline, especially AFTER FNaF2's Night 5 phone call (since they were contacting the original restaurant's owner (why would they contact them about the Purple Guy if he DIDN'T kill any kids there (notice how "Fredbear" is brown? That's Freddy, either from a sister location or from the main location, though the body was most likely found by the police, which was why it wasn't mentioned in the missing children incident newspapers))).

If this is the case, then the job started on the Monday and ended on the Friday with Night 6 taking place on a later week. Maybe they didn't find the replacement until the week after, resulting in Jeremy taking both shifts, getting overtime for the Night Shifts (inbetween shifts there would be a few hours for sleep, after closure of the building but before 12AM). This would allow for FNaF4's minigames to take place sometime after Night 6's phone call (where a Spring Lock Failure occurred, causing the child from FNaF4 to see the event and was scared of the Spring Animatronics ,"You know what will happen if he catches you."... He'll die from pressing up against the Spring Locks, meaning the body we see in the 4th night minigame in the Backstage is possibly the dead body of that same entertainer).

I know I'm rambling on at this point but is there really a need for the "Bite of 83" when the evidence was IN FNaF1 (why don't the 83' theorists try this easter egg out: Freddy - 1, Bonnie - 9, Chica - 8, Foxy - 7 (Custom Night), notice how you don't see the hat or bowtie? Fredbear did the bite of 87).
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Rydi Oct 30, 2015 @ 11:19am 
Why can't people stick to the game without making up fake locations, fake closures, fake loans... etc?

FNAF 2 was open for two weeks and a day, in November. Period.

Fazbear's Fright doesn't even have a drawing of Fredbear, why? Because Freddy Fazbear's Pizza never owned Fredbear or its locations. Accept it already, the buyout of Fredbear's is yet another invention you guys have come up with and in all honesty, it doesn't make any sense for Freddy's to buy out Fredbear's with the awful reputation and hardships to stay in business both were going through. But, it doesn't really matter because there's no evidence for that.

Why would they call Fredbear's Family Diner in FNAF 2 in the middle of the investigation in which five children were brutally murdered? Oh, I don't know, maybe because Purple man worked at Fredbear's Family Diner and they would be able to provide further information on him to incriminate him? Would make more sense than them contacting Fredbear's owners to talk about animatronics or about creating a restaurant together, because you know, reopening a new restaurant is exactly what people think about when five children have been slaughtered in their restaurant! They're unethical but that would reach new levels of nope. Why would they even want to be associated with a restaurant where children get their heads crunched by Fredbear or buy the rights to Fredbear the child eater? Some common sense, guys.

The 1987 easter egg in FNAF 1, what could it represent? What event is confirmed to happen in 1987 with Golden Freddy? Oh yeah, THE MURDER OF THE SECOND ROUND OF FIVE CHILDREN! xD FNAF 4 isn't even confirmed to happen in 1987 but the murders of the children with Purple man using the Golden Freddy suit are irrefutable. That easter egg has nothing to do with the bite of '87 but the murders of '87.
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gavtel Oct 30, 2015 @ 12:05pm 
"Fake locations" - "MOST locations" (Nightmare, FNaF3), gets mentioned when the Safe Rooms are closed, meaning there ARE more locations than just two.

"Fake loans" - Says the person that I got the idea from (since you mentioned it in one of our earlier discussions)... Seriously?

"two weeks and a day" - "open for a few short weeks" (Night 6 Newspaper), a few short weeks suggests three OR four weeks not two. Short merely refers to how quickly time seems to have gone by.

Third Paragraph - Easy, the location was bought out and the possessions of said location were scrapped completely (thrown away by the new owners of the location / re-used entirely by Freddy Fazbear's to make other animatronics). Why keep scraps of paper of a character that no longer is used at the location, the FNaF2 location might have not been bought out which would explain the Toys being there but Fredbear's was cheaper and was easy for smaller businesses to buy out than the FNaF2 location (a reason why it would get bought out instead).

Fourth Paragraph - The way he just changes the subject, makes it seem like he's talking about something else rather than the lockdown that he was just talking about. ALSO previous employees does not necessarily refer to the Purple Guy, it may refer to a janitor, higher up in the company OR any other job position in the company. This could mean that Purple Guy deliberately got himself fired by tampering with Freddy, after disabling the cameras (to hide the evidence, he disabled them and hid a few out of camera view (Main Hall and Show Stage). After getting himself fired from that location, the police found somebody else who they suspected, which Purple Guy pinned the blame on. This allows him to get away with his crimes, work at the Fredbear-like location and eventually die inside of Springtrap (which occurred inbetween FNaF1 and 2 since the Safe Rooms were sealed when they found him). ALSO "Fredbear & Friends", 1983 (Phone Guy mentions that the animatronics have been used for 20 years, meaning that they had some sort of collaberation in 1983 OR a buyout after FFP went down).

Also my theory would mean that the Bite hadn't occurred yet, thus rebuying the old lovable mascot, from back when the Spring Suits didn't exist and turning him INTO one, would make a bit more sense. With those problems occuring after the conversion into a Spring Suit.

Fifth Paragraph - True it might be associated with that but why have the "It's Me" (complete with Freddy and Bonnie flashing, like Fredbear / Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie / Springtrap were related somehow to the message of "It's Me") AND "Was it me?", if they weren't related? Wouldn't it make sense if those messages and the Bite were related?
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