Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 3:39am
A NEW Perspective of the Dream theory and how FNAF 3 is real life!
I think the dream theory works only if Phone Guy is also a dreamer of the franchise.

Phone Guys dreams FNAF 1, 2 and 3 (That's how the layouts and Phone calls and also minimum wages and operation of security cameras of the three games are so specific and can only be known through an employee of Fredbear's Family Diner, because no child would recreate such a detailed blueprint. Even the Phone calls were his past recordings that were jumbled up in his mind)

Crying child dreams FNAF 4 (The inspiration from the design of their house + Phone Guy working in a place with double doors = A nightmare with a bedroom with two doors and Nightmarish versions of plushies haunting him.) (Also, the game style differs drastically compared with the first three games.)

True events: FNAF 4 minigames.

Phone Guy is Crying child's dad.

Crying child starts dreaming of FNAF 4 after the Bite of '8X

Phone Guy starts his dreams after FNAF 1 Night 4 Phone call (The moment where theorists originally expressed that Freddy killed him and was stuffed into Chica, but that's not the main point, the main point was he was knocked out and therefore he starts dreaming.) But it must happen at some point after the Bite, because FNAF 1 Night 1 Phone call mentions the Bite of '87.

The rest could be incorporated into these two characters using Mat Pat's theory. All the bright things in the video are by the crying child, while the darker elements of murder (FNAF 2 minigame), redemption (FNAF 3 minigame) are by Phone Guy after his lost of his son from the bite.

The FNAF 4 Night 6 ending may probably be what his family might be comforting towards the crying child before his death, and that the fading of each one represents that the crying child is slowly leaving the world.

BUUTTT!! If we could assume FNAF 3 is in 2017, 30 years after the Bite, that means Fazbear Fright is probably a true event as well and not part of Phone Guy's dream.

Well, then, who would be the security guard then?

.........DRUM ROLL....

PHONE GUY!

Assuming the facts that he could see those hallucinations and that means that our guard must be someone that had known these characters for 30 years. And assuming the rest of Dream Theory is correct and that no other security guards exists, we eliminate others and Phone Guy remains. (Source: FNAF 3 trailer: He will come back. He always does... We have a place for him...)

I am absolutely positive that Fazbear Fright is just a normal horror attraction, established by Phone Dude based on the events of the Bite of '8X, to scare people in an amusement park. There are no phantoms, no Springtrap, no errors, only props, Foxy Head and various items. But through the perspective of Phone Guy, things get tense pretty quickly.

He appears fine in the first shift back (Night 1), enjoying the nostalgic feel of being a night guard in a Fazbear establishment. But after Night 2 when Phone dude makes the mistake of recalling those ancient tapes, bad stuff happen. Phone Guy starts seeing things, gets jumped by phantoms, using the audio for a much darker purpose. Things he dreamt in the past starts appearing in his office: The paperplates. And what breaks him down even more is that when Golden Freddy/Fredbear appears slouched next to him (The crying child is bit by Fredbear/Golden Freddy).

And after Night 6, he just couldn't take it, the cacophony of horrendous malice driving him to excruciation as he burned down the enitre place. (I think that the Springtrap in the news clippings is actually representing Phone Guy surviving the fire).

But then he startes to regret, because he remembers about his son and was determined to resolve things. He realised he mustn't live in regret and through his dreams, he imagined himself as different animatronics, searching for the crying child and giving him cake (FNAF 3 minigames!!!) and until everyone, and the bullies/plushies/main-four-animatronics (FNAF 4 Pre-Night 1 minigame) comes to him, and the whole thing is over.

Happy ending.

So basically FNAF 1, 2 and 4 are dreams. FNAF 3 is a hallucination and FNAF 4 minigames is real life.
Last edited by alvinau2000; Dec 17, 2015 @ 12:01am
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Icarus Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:05pm 
Read my "I don't want to believe in the dream theory" thread.
alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:26pm 
Originally posted by Glitch:
Read my "I don't want to believe in the dream theory" thread.
Probable, but may be better if Springtrap could be explained.
I am also hesitant but believe in dream theory. But in my opinion, it only works if FNAF 3 is also in real life and acts as a hallucination instead of a dream.
Icarus Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by alvinau2000:
Originally posted by Glitch:
Read my "I don't want to believe in the dream theory" thread.
Probable, but may be better if Springtrap could be explained.
I am also hesitant but believe in dream theory. But in my opinion, it only works if FNAF 3 is also in real life and acts as a hallucination instead of a dream.

Spring trap? Well as I said in my thread, Spring Bonnie broke and killed him cause of what the kid with the toy said. Now, why was it purple guy? Because he is the one who knew about going inside the suits and worked with them, and because the other kids were dead, or had already possesses an animatronic.
alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:38pm 
How about the theme of redemption in the FNAF 3 minigames?
Why would they give cake to the Golden Freddy in the FNAF 3 minigames?
Kids hate accepting failure and won't even bother redemption, it could only come from someone more mature and regretting something...
Icarus Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:39pm 
Originally posted by alvinau2000:
How about the theme of redemption in the FNAF 3 minigames?
Why would they give cake to the Golden Freddy in the FNAF 3 minigames?
Kids hate accepting failure and won't even bother redemption, it could only come from someone more mature and regretting something...

Which one are you talking about? Golden Freddy was the one giving cake to them.
alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:44pm 
Originally posted by Glitch:

Which one are you talking about? Golden Freddy was the one giving cake to them.
Ok.
1. In FNAF 3, ballon boy gets a rainbow balloon.
2. Mangle collects a cake.
3. Press chica's cupcake around the horror attraction and give a cake to a kid.
4. A yellow bear jumps out of the frame and gives cake to a kid
5. A weird Purple rabbit thing moves around and gives cake to a kid.
6. The Puppet joins Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy to all give cake to a kid. Kid reveals to be Golden Freddy.

This is what I'm talking about.
Icarus Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by alvinau2000:
Originally posted by Glitch:

Which one are you talking about? Golden Freddy was the one giving cake to them.
Ok.
1. In FNAF 3, ballon boy gets a rainbow balloon.
2. Mangle collects a cake.
3. Press chica's cupcake around the horror attraction and give a cake to a kid.
4. A yellow bear jumps out of the frame and gives cake to a kid
5. A weird Purple rabbit thing moves around and gives cake to a kid.
6. The Puppet joins Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy to all give cake to a kid. Kid reveals to be Golden Freddy.

This is what I'm talking about.

It's because they were giving it to the crying kid, or if the crying child was the puppet, they were giving it to someone else. Either way, Scott said we got FNAF 3 correct.
Doctor Script Dec 15, 2015 @ 9:52pm 
Thank you for showing me this in my rebuttal thread, this is Exactly what I was looking for.

This makes some degrees of sense, but I wonder what the purpose of this story is. Naturally, stories can just be entertainment, and I quickly point out that the game's auxiliary game is to figure out the lore, so it may be just that it was intended to be difficult to figure out.

I find it a bit odd that Phone Guy would be listening to himself in dreams, that seems strangely meta for the story. Kind of a Russian Nesting Doll scenario, and definitely makes him a bit more insane then we personally see. I would also like to point out that if he took over the night shift, he Could be listening to his own tapes while working.

I do agree that Victim is Phone Guy's Son, but I like the fact that seemingly everyone in Phone Guy's family has passed due to the store. It adds the morbid opposite of Fazbear's being a place for Family and Friends.
alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 11:24pm 
Originally posted by Glitch:

It's because they were giving it to the crying kid, or if the crying child was the puppet, they were giving it to someone else. Either way, Scott said we got FNAF 3 correct.
But there was no way we're giving to the puppet, because one of those spirits giving to the crying child IS the puppet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewrbDx7V8FQ
(Pause right there at 0:24)
Last edited by alvinau2000; Dec 15, 2015 @ 11:24pm
alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by Doctor Script:
this is Exactly what I was looking for.
And thank you too!
I think that the community should be told: that even though dream theory is the most probable and most realistic theory, a story COULD exist. And in my story FNAF 3 is a real event as well as FNAF 4 minigames.
alvinau2000 Dec 15, 2015 @ 11:35pm 
Update: Edited it to make a bit more sense. (Added more evidence to Phone Guy being the mysterious security guard in FNAF 3 and more proofs)
OUTLAWWZSCOPE Dec 16, 2015 @ 12:29am 
Interesting idea. We never see Phone Guy actually die. In fact, we never see Phone Guy at all as far as we know. What if he didn't die? He could be the FNaF3 guard. I don't really believe this, but it's a possibility.

Whether Phone Guy survived or not, I do think there is more to FNaF3's guard than meets the eye. For the sake of your idea, let's say he did survive, but was injured. Or let's say he tried to burn one of the establishments down BEFORE Fazbear's Fright (I suggested this in another thread). He could be on some sort of life support. Maybe he has trouble breathing after being attacked, or because of the smoke from the fire.

Where am I going with this? Well, have you ever listened to the sounds in your office in FNaF3? The alarm noise that goes off sounds strangely familiar to a hospital ventilator. And when the puppet attacks you, that noise sounds like a heart monitor.

Perhaps the FNaF3 night guard is the one who is dreaming? Maybe he's in a hospital bed just like the crying child was, and he's dreaming up FNaF3.
alvinau2000 Dec 16, 2015 @ 12:43am 
Originally posted by REBELLEON:
Interesting idea. We never see Phone Guy actually die. In fact, we never see Phone Guy at all as far as we know. What if he didn't die? He could be the FNaF3 guard. I don't really believe this, but it's a possibility.

Whether Phone Guy survived or not, I do think there is more to FNaF3's guard than meets the eye. For the sake of your idea, let's say he did survive, but was injured. Or let's say he tried to burn one of the establishments down BEFORE Fazbear's Fright (I suggested this in another thread). He could be on some sort of life support. Maybe he has trouble breathing after being attacked, or because of the smoke from the fire.

Where am I going with this? Well, have you ever listened to the sounds in your office in FNaF3? The alarm noise that goes off sounds strangely familiar to a hospital ventilator. And when the puppet attacks you, that noise sounds like a heart monitor.

Perhaps the FNaF3 night guard is the one who is dreaming? Maybe he's in a hospital bed just like the crying child was, and he's dreaming up FNaF3.

Oh, wow! It never crossed my mind! This could more back up my theory of FNAF 3 be real and acts as a hallucination and not a dream.
alvinau2000 Dec 16, 2015 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by REBELLEON:
Where am I going with this? Well, have you ever listened to the sounds in your office in FNaF3? The alarm noise that goes off sounds strangely familiar to a hospital ventilator. And when the puppet attacks you, that noise sounds like a heart monitor.

Perhaps the FNaF3 night guard is the one who is dreaming? Maybe he's in a hospital bed just like the crying child was, and he's dreaming up FNaF3.

Well, if that's what you said. FNAF 3 is also a dream.
It could go either way: a [real world with hallucinations] or [a dream].

But as you said, you hate dream theory so you'll probably opt for real world with hallucinations.
OUTLAWWZSCOPE Dec 16, 2015 @ 12:47am 
Originally posted by alvinau2000:
Oh, wow! It never crossed my mind! This could more back up my theory of FNAF 3 be real and acts as a hallucination and not a dream.

After all, FNaF3 was supposed to be "all in your mind." I haven't figured out what this means, but this is a start.
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