Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 1:07am
Hypothesis: Toy Chica caused the Bite of 87
In FNAF 2, Chica's beak is broken. We have no idea why.

Supposition: Chica's beak got broken because she bit someone. Scott left it as a very vague clue that we just didn't pick up on.

The toy beak in 4 is broken to make us remember Toy Chica's beak and think back on that while we've still got Bite of 87 on the brain.

Since FNAF 4 happens before FNAF 2, this is not causal. It's a pure coincidence that this little girl has a toy Chica with a broken beak. It's just Scott's way of telling us, "You wanted to know who caused the bite? It was Toy Chica."
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Tighty-Whitey Oct 25, 2015 @ 1:13am 
Aftermative.
Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 1:26am 
If Scott Cawthon is reading this, feedback is not only welcome but openly appreciated.

So here's my evidence:

Toy Chica with beak: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/msuGBRC_llE/maxresdefault.jpg

Toy Chica jumpscare: http://orig13.deviantart.net/4032/f/2015/028/0/7/toy_chica_want_s_a_hug____gif__by_chicafazchicken-d8fr6rk.gif

Now, obviously she's coming forward to jump and grab you, but imagine what that'd be like with the beak. She'd impale you.

If this is right, Scott told us who actually caused the Bite of 87 way back in FNAF 2, just vague enough that we didn't pick up on it. So he put in the extra toy beak breaking in FNAF 4 in the hopes of pointing us to that direction. When that didn't work, he specifically pointed it out as one of the three hints.
Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 1:47am 
The thing is, if Chica's beak is ALREADY broken, then the Bite of 87 already happened by the time Jeremy Fitzgerald takes the shift.

This lends credence to the prerecorded tapes theory (because Phone Guy specifically says they're allowed to walk around), as well as explaining why the toy animatronics are cranky from Night 1.
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Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 1:59am 
So let's see if we can prove prerecorded tapes by looking at anything to see if it's far too specific:

They all begin with the, "Hello? Hello?" which makes sense for testing equipment to see if it's recording.

N1: "Uh... you're only the second guard to work at that location. Uh, the first guy finished his week, but complained about... conditions. "

That'd make Jeremy the third guard, all in all, and the first guard since opening back up again. Even so, we have a "Grand Reopening" thing that Jeremy responds to, so it'd be odd if he took over a week for that.

N5: Hello, hello? Hey, good job, night 5! Um, hey, um, keep a close eye on things tonight, ok? Um, from what I understand, the building is on lockdown, uh, no one is allowed in or out, y'know, especially concerning any...previous employees.

N5: "Uh, we're going to try to contact the original restaurant owner. Uh, I think the name of the place was..."Fredbear's Family Diner" or something like that. It's been closed for years though, I doubt we'll be able to track anybody down."

N6: "Hello? Hello...uh...what on earth are you doing there, uh didn’t you get the memo, uh, the place is closed down, uh, at least for a while."

So what if we've been thinking about this all wrong? Maybe the remade FNAF 2 location opens first in the summer, then gets closed down for the police investigation, then REOPENS in November, and then gets shut down because of the malfunctioning animatronics?
No animatronics caused the bite read my discussion
Lady Tiamat Oct 25, 2015 @ 3:49am 
Scott said that MatPat and his channel Game Theory got it right for the first 3 games.
If that is the case that would mean that Mangle would of been the anamatronic that bit the child in '87 which is why he is in the spare parts room in and not in his body suit in FNAF 2.
It also explains why hhis jumpscare is to go for your head and he is the only one that can open his mouth wide enough to bite someone on the head. Also look at Mangle's teath they are sharp and pointy the others are flat and blunt.
AirFreshener Oct 25, 2015 @ 4:27am 
Fear.
AirFreshener Oct 25, 2015 @ 4:28am 
Originally posted by Tiamat951:
Scott said that MatPat and his channel Game Theory got it right for the first 3 games.

Incorrect.

"MatPat did an incredible theory on FNaF 2 and got almost everything right."
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Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:11pm 
Regardless of the teeth, I think getting whacked in the face with the beak would do some real damage.
cap pin Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:11pm 
I still think Fredbear did the bite of '87.
Battleshadow Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:12pm 
Toy Chicas beak isnt big enough to bite anyone...
Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Thinking Caps™:
I still think Fredbear did the bite of '87.

While I accept that it's possible that we see the Bite of 87 in FNAF 4, the evidence doesn't seem to point that way to me.

By 1987, Fredbear's Family Diner had already been closed for years, and when it first opened up, it had Freddy, Bonnie and Chica on stage.

Hard as I've tried, I haven't been able to refute that evidence.



Originally posted by Battleshadow:
Toy Chicas beak isnt big enough to bite anyone...

The actual event would probably have been much more like getting speared than an actual bite as we think of it. As she jumps at the victim, the beak would have a similar effect to a ram plate on a vehicle.

If you have any other suggestion on why the beak is broken, though, I'm happy to hear it.
gavtel Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:38pm 
Going off of what we know in FNaF1, 2 and 4, it seems a bit more likely that Fredbear or a Golden Freddy version did the bite:
-Golden Freddy jumpscares you, when you enter "1987"
-"It's Me" is displayed with images of Bonnie and Freddy, the same two animatronics with Spring Lock counterparts (Fredbear / Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie / Springtrap)
-Golden Freddy has a chance of jumpscaring you on the death screen, which may suggest that the bite victim died at some point
-Golden Freddy launches his head at you, with the mouth hanging loosely (possibly from biting the frontal lobe out / to bite it out)
-Fredbear is shown biting a kid in the head

Although Toy Chica DOES have metal parts in her, her outer body seems to be made of a plastic, which would make it less dangerous to get bitten by (even the endoskeleton teeth are a bit far back into the head making it unlikely that they would be bitten by them). With or without the beak, she would probably not be able to bite someone without ripping her entire mask off. The beak wouldn't be able to spear someone if it's made of plastic.

As for other characters and why it might not be them:
-Withered Freddy (although it's possible the bite was done by him, any and all people seeing him leave the Parts / Service would probably be scared / disgusted by him and try to get away)
-Withered Bonnie (he can't bite since he only has his lower endoskeleton jaw)
-Withered Chica (she can't move her jaw at all to bite someone)
-Withered Foxy (again Parts / Service and the guard would most likely have a flashlight in case of power outages)
-Toy Freddy (endoskeleton is far inside of the head)
-Toy Bonnie (endoskeleton is far inside of the head, as well)
-Mangle (a bit hard to disprove but it's possible that it would have been played with by the kids, thus it would be hard for it to move if it's in pieces or still being assembled)
-BB (the endoskeleton is completely covered)
-Puppet (endoskeleton, if any, is completely covered)
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Jinx ★★★ Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:42pm 
Toy Chica's mouth seems a bit too small to fit someone's head inside. Even if she uses her beak, it wouldn't really affect much due to her beak overlapping her teeth.
Andy Z Oct 25, 2015 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by gavtel:
Although Toy Chica DOES have metal parts in her, her outer body seems to be made of a plastic, which would make it less dangerous to get bitten by (even the endoskeleton teeth are a bit far back into the head making it unlikely that they would be bitten by them). With or without the beak, she would probably not be able to bite someone without ripping her entire mask off.

Or getting her face seriously damaged, such that her eyes and beak fall off whenever she wanders around at night.

As for other characters and why it might not be them:
-Withered Freddy (although it's possible the bite was done by him, any and all people seeing him leave the Parts / Service would probably be scared / disgusted by him and try to get away)
-Withered Bonnie (he can't bite since he only has his lower endoskeleton jaw)
-Withered Chica (she can't move her jaw at all to bite someone)
-Withered Foxy (again Parts / Service and the guard would most likely have a flashlight in case of power outages)
-Toy Freddy (endoskeleton is far inside of the head)
-Toy Bonnie (endoskeleton is far inside of the head, as well)
-Mangle (a bit hard to disprove but it's possible that it would have been played with by the kids, thus it would be hard for it to move if it's in pieces or still being assembled)
-BB (the endoskeleton is completely covered)
-Puppet (endoskeleton, if any, is completely covered)

I'd imagine it could only be one of the ones active during the day, though that may be wrong.

Our candidates there are the toy three plus Mangle.

While I understand the hypothesis for Mangle, why else is Toy Chica messed up? I doubt Scott just threw it in for no reason.
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