The TRUTH about Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare

[SkyZombie5]

Ok, so i've made a few comments about this before, but I think its time for a discussion on who Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare REALLY are, and how they connect.

Okay, time to get ready for the real truth. Nightmare in some sense is the same as Nightmare Fredbear, but not completely. He is simply as his name implies, pure nightmare. Let me explain. On Nights 5-6 Nightmare Fredbear is presant. In the childs mind, Fredbear is this massive monster who bit his head. This is confusing for him, as the Fredbear plushie was an imaginary friend (he is not a seperate being, Fredbear talking to him is simply in his head). Because he was such a good friend with Fredbear, he looks on him as a "tratior" (kind off) when he bites his head. But in the cutscene at the end off the sixth Night, right before he dies, he sees Fredbear saying "we are still your friends, do you still believe that" and "I will put you back together". It is at this point the kid relizes that Fredbear is not a monster, and it was simply an accident that he bit his head. This is the point that the kid's spirit enters the Fredbear/Golden Freddy suit and is carried on inside it. Yep, the FNaF4 kid IS Golden Freddy. A quick point to make is that Fredbear and Golden Freddy are the same suit, trust me, look at the FNAF World teaser, Golden Freddy and Fredbear are almost exactly the same.

But where does Nightmare come in? Here's how. He is presant on Night 7-8. Night 7-8 are in the kids head once he posseses the Golden Fredbear. Since the kid IS Fredbear now, Nightmare Fredbear no longer exists. He has split into two, Fredbear and Nightmare. Remember this is after Fredbear has apologized. To the child Fredbear is a "good guy" now, and the child lives on inside him. Nightmare is "whats left" now that Fredbear is good. This is why Nightmare has a see-through suit. His Golden is gone, the Fredbear part of him is gone, he is now simply Nightmare. This explains his name. Nightmare Fredbear - Fredbear = Nightmare.

I hope this answered who Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare are. Trust me, this is correct.

[Elder Qu]

This is a good theory well done :)

[BreakinBenny]

..However, I find it that the child would've ended up in that suit against his own will. Plus if there's a can of pills, an IV drip, or even a vase of flowers next to the bed in the bedroom, wouldn't he somehow attempt to recover?

After all, he friggin' hates the pizzeria (or even the Diner).

[Mega Munchy]

Nice theory.

[R.S.V]

Great theory!

[SkyZombie5]

Originally posted by BreakinBenny:

..However, I find it that the child would've ended up in that suit against his own will. Plus if there's a can of pills, an IV drip, or even a vase of flowers next to the bed in the bedroom, wouldn't he somehow attempt to recover?

After all, he friggin' hates the pizzeria (or even the Diner).

Ok, since we as a community need to figure out this story, i'll try and adress any questions people may have about this theory. It's true that he did end up in the Fredbear/Golden Freddy suit in the Diner even though he hates it. I think its probably to do with the fact that he's been bullied all his life, and Fredbear was his only friend that he inhabbits the suit, even though he does hate the Diner as you say.

[SkyZombie5]

Originally posted by PomPom:

It's an amazing and thought out theory, but one thing, Golden Freddy is NOT the Fredbear we know, as seen here (not confirmed, so don't get down :)) http://i.imgur.com/TibosTG.png
If that picture was true, maybe the child mistook the suit for Fredbear, as the similarities came into effect :)

Thanks dude. Although to adress this, Fredbear is in fact Golden Freddy. In the "Stage 01" minigame this is Fredbear's Diner with Fredbear and Spring Bonnie, however we all know that Fredbear has the Purple Hat and Bow-tie, while Golden Freddy has the Black Hat and Bow-tie. However they are the same suit. In FNaF3 the "Stage 01" minigame Fredbear has the black hat and bow-tie, but this is before FNaF4, so Scott probably didn't think that far ahead to know to do change the colour of his hat and bow-tie in this minigame. Also, look at the FNAF World teaser. Golden Freddy and Fredbear look almost identical, cause they are the same suit. When Fredbear was turned into Golden Freddy, the company changed his purple hat and bow-tie to black, the same as Freddy, to literally make him Golden Freddy. The probably did this because of the accident where the kid was bitten, and they didn't want Fredbear to be associated with this, so they changed him to Golden Freddy ;)

[Rydi]

Originally posted by SkyZombie5:

The probably did this because of the accident where the kid was bitten, and they didn't want Fredbear to be associated with this, so they changed him to Golden Freddy ;)

That makes as much sense as people not recognizing Clark Kent as Superman just because he wore glasses.

Let's just change the colours of the hat and bowtie, people won't realize he still has blood from the child in his teeth! :D

???

Profit

[SkyZombie5]

Originally posted by Rydi:

Originally posted by SkyZombie5:

The probably did this because of the accident where the kid was bitten, and they didn't want Fredbear to be associated with this, so they changed him to Golden Freddy ;)

That makes as much sense as people not recognizing Clark Kent as Superman just because he wore glasses.

Let's just change the colours of the hat and bowtie, people won't realize he still has blood from the child in his teeth! :D

???

Profit

Yeah, you'd be surprised how much people don't recognize you with a different hat. "OH LOOK, IT'S FREDBEAR.....oh, wait, he has a football cap on, never mind, it's Allan XD

[BreakinBenny]

Originally posted by SkyZombie5:

Originally posted by BreakinBenny:

..However, I find it that the child would've ended up in that suit against his own will. Plus if there's a can of pills, an IV drip, or even a vase of flowers next to the bed in the bedroom, wouldn't he somehow attempt to recover?

After all, he friggin' hates the pizzeria (or even the Diner).

Ok, since we as a community need to figure out this story, i'll try and adress any questions people may have about this theory. It's true that he did end up in the Fredbear/Golden Freddy suit in the Diner even though he hates it. I think its probably to do with the fact that he's been bullied all his life, and Fredbear was his only friend that he inhabbits the suit, even though he does hate the Diner as you say.

What a disservice, not even helping his situation rather than giving him a proper funeral in a grave or being cremated. Something also tells me that the idea of someone else saying they'll put [him] together (per the flatline, being plugged out) is just disgustingly inhumane.

[SkyZombie5]

Originally posted by BreakinBenny:

Originally posted by SkyZombie5:

Ok, since we as a community need to figure out this story, i'll try and adress any questions people may have about this theory. It's true that he did end up in the Fredbear/Golden Freddy suit in the Diner even though he hates it. I think its probably to do with the fact that he's been bullied all his life, and Fredbear was his only friend that he inhabbits the suit, even though he does hate the Diner as you say.

What a disservice, not even helping his situation rather than giving him a proper funeral in a grave or being cremated. Something also tells me that the idea of someone else saying they'll put [him] together (per the flatline, being plugged out) is just disgustingly inhumane.

FNaF is a pretty creepy story, so theres gonna be some dark stuff in it. But when the kids die they turn into ghosts, and posses animatronics. Honestly, when I saw the Purple Man's face crushed inside the Springtrap animatronic, I was like "THAT'S SO BRUTAL AND GORY, AND THAT ALSO HAPPENED TO THE KIDS?" but the kids were dead before they were stuffed. Purple Man deserves all he got XD. But I love FNaF because it's creepy and awsome. :)

[BreakinBenny]

Originally posted by SkyZombie5:

FNaF is a pretty creepy story, so theres gonna be some dark stuff in it. But when the kids die they turn into ghosts, and posses animatronics. Honestly, when I saw the Purple Man's face crushed inside the Springtrap animatronic, I was like "THAT'S SO BRUTAL AND GORY, AND THAT ALSO HAPPENED TO THE KIDS?" but the kids were dead before they were stuffed. Purple Man deserves all he got XD. But I love FNaF because it's creepy and awsome. :)

Scary stuff does not need gore, I can think of Luigi's Mansion as a prime example. You probably also like FNAF because the plot is a puzzle, deliberately made vague enough so Scott simply've not had one. It becomes essentially a clone of his previous game Sit N' Survive.… How do you define "awesome" anyway?

I won't be excited for the movie adaptation whatsoever, I'm not even familiar with Chuck E. Cheese on top of it not existing in Europe.… to my knowledge. However, I will leave my idea open to the mysterious box containing a note from Scott saying:

"Congratulations on opening this box! Now that you've probably been wondering a lot about FNAF's chronology, here you go… Before you exit this menu, I'd like to ask you if it was worth the effort to get this box open. I clearly said that not being able to figure out the plot of FNAF 4 was fitting for a conclusion, therefore it may well be forgotten and put away… forever."

..Really, if it's best left forgotten for eternity, then the plot was like an excuse plot.




Question is if Scott Cawthon imagined the gameplay of FNAF 4 from his sons' POV, constant fear of monsters coming to take 'em.

[SkyZombie5]

Originally posted by BreakinBenny:

Originally posted by SkyZombie5:

FNaF is a pretty creepy story, so theres gonna be some dark stuff in it. But when the kids die they turn into ghosts, and posses animatronics. Honestly, when I saw the Purple Man's face crushed inside the Springtrap animatronic, I was like "THAT'S SO BRUTAL AND GORY, AND THAT ALSO HAPPENED TO THE KIDS?" but the kids were dead before they were stuffed. Purple Man deserves all he got XD. But I love FNaF because it's creepy and awsome. :)

Scary stuff does not need gore, I can think of Luigi's Mansion as a prime example. You probably also like FNAF because the plot is a puzzle, deliberately made vague enough so Scott simply've not had one. It becomes essentially a clone of his previous game Sit N' Survive.… How do you define "awesome" anyway?

I won't be excited for the movie adaptation whatsoever, I'm not even familiar with Chuck E. Cheese on top of it not existing in Europe.… to my knowledge. However, I will leave my idea open to the mysterious box containing a note from Scott saying:

"Congratulations on opening this box! Now that you've probably been wondering a lot about FNAF's chronology, here you go… Before you exit this menu, I'd like to ask you if it was worth the effort to get this box open. I clearly said that not being able to figure out the plot of FNAF 4 was fitting for a conclusion, therefore it may well be forgotten and put away… forever."

..Really, if it's best left forgotten for eternity, then the plot was like an excuse plot.




Question is if Scott Cawthon imagined the gameplay of FNAF 4 from his sons' POV, constant fear of monsters coming to take 'em.

Scary stuff doesn't need to be gory, but it doesn't have to be not gory either. I love FNaF because it's the first new idea in probably years. Every big game now is a shooter, it's nice to see something different getting hype. I think the story is brilliant, Scott leaves just enough for us to use to figure it out. Game Theory got it right in FNaF2. And FNaF3 wasn't as difficult to figure out story wise. But FNaF4 is the hardest to figure out yet. People love figuring out this kind of stuff, it's almost like reading a murder mystery book. It's disturping in some parts which just adds to the mystery, when you findout how horrific the story really is, you think "oh geez, thats so scary, theres dead kids in the suits, what!?!"

The reason that I say FNaF is awsome, is cause it has a charm to it. Even though in FNaF2 and FNaF3 you kinda knew when the jumpscares were coming, the overall atmospere and knowledge that everything thats happening has a reason in the story, makes it not a dull experience. In my opinion FNaF4 is really scary. Some people complain that FNaF has "trial and error" gameplay. But if the game held your hand the game wouldn't be as scary or as fun. FNaF isn't for some people, but if EVERYBODY liked the game, it would be the most popular game in the world, there will never be a game that does that.

Also the characters, even though they are scary, are lovable somehow. I don't know how Scott did this...but he did. You feel connected to the characters both in game and out of game. For example Springtrap is basically the true villian, and he natuarally looks really creepy, at ripped and decad. When you see him, you think "their you are you creepy mofo". But when you see BB, you think "you annoying little leech, get outaa here." I'd love to see these characters in the movie.

Btw Luigi's mansion isn't really scary, but it gives off a creepy atmosphere which makes you more frightened. Even though nothing scary really happens, and you now nothing scary will happen, you're still scared (I've played that game so much aswell, trust me, I know). FNaF does this atmosphere thing too...as well as scary things actually happening.

[BreakinBenny]

Amnesia is also an eerie, non-first person shooter, except there's a good amount of control. FNAF 4?… IDK, it's living on the edge putting one's head outside the door to hear a cue for enemies there.

[SkyZombie5]

Scott took a risk when he removed the camera systems. But although it's a a little more basic, it doesn't feel like it somehow, the "scary" more than makes up for it aswell. Plus he managed to do alot with only 4-5 zones. And i've never played Amnesia but it looks good tho.

[SkyZombie5]

Originally posted by BreakinBenny:

Amnesia is also an eerie, non-first person shooter, except there's a good amount of control. FNAF 4?… IDK, it's living on the edge putting one's head outside the door to hear a cue for enemies there.

Scott took a risk when he removed the camera systems. But although it's a a little more basic, it doesn't feel like it somehow, the "scary" more than makes up for it aswell. Plus he managed to do alot with only 4-5 zones. And i've never played Amnesia but it looks good tho.