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But still that can work because they let them walk around until the bite of 87...
-The kid survived for some time. It's not confirmed if he died. If he did, it was in a hospital, so Phone Guy might not have heard that he died. Alternatively, him saying the victim lived may have simply been him being surprised that the kid didn't die immediately.
-I'm pretty sure if something that had the ability to to walk was discovered to be strong enough to damage somebody's head, possibly KILLing them, that they would strip it of its ability to walk to prevent it from getting close enough to hurt somebody. That, and the bullies could have lied and said it was all Fredbear's fault, since they seem to be the only people in the room at the time.
Just my 2 cents.
Customer: Omg, it can crush skulls!
Employee: Okay, I really don't think we should let it get near people.
It's like a nutcracker but dangerous!!!
In FNAF 1, what happens when you type in 1987 in the custom night?
Golden freddy jumpscares you.
Who is golden freddy?
FREDBEAR
BOOM. That seals it. Matpat never mentioned this crucial detail that proved that FNAF 4 is 1987.
That was done to simply disprove the whole hoax of something special happening when you input "1987" into custom night. If Scott was to show any of the toy animatronics, do you realize how many people would've been confused by it?
*ahem*
"Uh, they used to be allowed to walk around during the day too. But then there was The Bite of '87. Yeah. I-It's amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know?"
Okay, so this doesn't match up with what we saw in FNaF 4. If the Bite truly was caused by Fredbear, then shouldn't he have been walking around? No, he was on the stage. Not only that, but Phone Guy states that the human body can live without the frontal lobe. This seems to imply that the entire frontal lobe was lost. However, he would basically be a vegetable. He would do mindless tasks, so running around and checking on four different spots with a goal in mind wouldn't exactly add up from a scientific standpoint, at least from what I've gathered. Phone Guy also said that the victim lived, though we know that the victim died. Though this one could be weak as Phone Guy might of been impressed that he survived for a while, although he shouldn't sound as impressed, right?
That's not the only thing. The place in FNaF 4, Fredbear's Family Diner, was said to have been closed for years by Phone Guy.
"Uh, I think the name of the place was..."Fredbear's Family Diner" or something like that. It's been closed for years though..."
Even if the place wasn't Fredbear's Family Diner, and was Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, then it STILL couldn't be in 1987.
"Vintage pizzeria given new life!"
"Vintage" seems to imply that it had not been open for a while, years even. Not only that, but Phone Guy says that they can still walk around during the day in FNaF 2, so it couldn't of taken place before FNaF 2. What about after?
"We are confident that we will reopen someday, even if it is with a much smaller budget."
"Someday" seems to imply that they wouldn't be reopening for a while, not to mention that they think they will have a much smaller budget, so building four more animatronics and an entirely new building wouldn't exactly be within a small budget. "What if they used an older location like they did for FNaF 1?" Then how come Scott put in next to NONE indicators that this place was reused. FNaF 1 had cobwebs and trash in various places, signifying that this place was old. Plus, they said that they will use the old animatronics, and I don't see (animatronic) Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy in FNaF 4.
What about if it was a sister location to FNaF 2? Well, that seems to imply that the FNaF 3 training tapes come from Toy Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, however that's impossible because of drumroll the Saferoom. Why? Because of this:
"The Saferoom is reserved for equipment and/or other property not being currently used and is in fact a safety location for employees only."
Gee, that sounds a lot like GASP
But wait a minute, the Parts and Services HAS a camera while the Saferoom DOESN'T.
"Well, what if the training tapes came from an earlier location?"
Still, that doesn't make sense. Around six children had died at their locations (so far), so do you really think that they would take the chance of using something like the springlock suits again?
"What if it was a restaurant named Fredbear and Friends?" Again, the purple hat/bowtie teaser comes into play. Not only that, even if we count the unseen space on the FNaF 4 stage (from the entrance we can determine that there's more space to FNaF 4 than we see, which is why there can be more lights that cast the shadows), four more animatronics don't exactly look like they could fit on stage, especially if they're the same size as Fredbear. Even if there was more space than we saw, then how come Fredbear (and possibly Spring Bonnie) is pushed to the far right instead of being in the middle eh?
Also, if Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy did originate from "Fredbear and Friends", then how come Phone Guy calls it "The NEW and IMPROVED Freddy Fazbear's Pizza" in FNaF 2, which seems to imply that there was a Freddy Fazbear's Pizza before Toy Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. Not to mention the newspaper clippings, which say the murders took place at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and not "Fredbear and Friends".
"Well, what if STAGE 01 is the Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and where the newspaper clippings originate?" The newspaper clippings imply that the children were stuffed inside the suits. FIVE children to be exact. Unless more that one child were distributed inside of Golden Freddy and Springtrap, then I don't think something adds up here. And before you say "There could be more," let me remind you that there were only TWO springlock suits at Freddy's.
Another thing aimed toward people that believe in Fredbear and Friends and say it wouldn't make sense for Scott to show us a Bite we've never heard of before, that's kind of hypocritical seeing as how HE'S NEVER MENTIONED A RESTAURANT NAMED FREDBEAR AND FRIENDS. Plus, he HAS shown us incidents that we've never heard of before; remember S A V E T H E M? Or what about Take Cake?
So there, why the Bite of 87 being shown in FNaF 4 doesn't make sense.
Another thing is that Scott said on MatPat's theory video that he missed a "crucial detail." I'm not sure about the validity of MatPat's theory, but a crucial detail would sound something like "It's not the Bite of 87." Not only that, but he deleted his comment which seems to imply that the comment would give people the wrong, or rather, RIGHT idea.
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Part 2 ~ Disproving Counterarguments
Mangle and the Toys~
Back in 1983, they were literally just that; toys. Small action figures. That's why they're called "Toys" and that's why Toy Chica can take her beak off; because the old action figure could. This is also why the Toy Cupcake looks so... tacky. Because it's based off the old action figure prop, which didn't have any endoskeleton unlike the Vintage/Classic Cupcake. This is also why the company went from fabric to plastic; the action figures were plastic. The Pseudo-Mangle is either an action figure or a Foxy-Plushtrap plush. Both had endoskeletons regardless of what it is. If it was a Foxy version of Plushtrap, then it could of suffered discoloration (like Theodore). If it was an action figure and Scott screwed up the proportions, then it could support my hypothesis that Toy Foxy was pink. It would also make sense from the company's viewpoint: the older kids would already love them!
1983 is when the FNaF 4 location opened~
This is just not true, as it doesn't have an "est." next to it. What does "est." mean? Established. Not to mention that Phone Guy said the animatronics had been singing for "20 years", which places the opening of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza around 1972 (Phone Guy could of been exaggerating, but how would 9 years go to 20?) and since the majority of the community believes that Fredbear's Family Diner precedes Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, then it wouldn't make sense for FNaF 4 to have originally opened in 1983.
Why would Scott include another Bite?/Phone Guy never mentioned a Second Bite~
Scott would include another bite to advance the story; what is one of the things never touched upon in FNaF? The origin of the Shadows. FNaF 4 would be the chance to touch upon this subject: the costume in the Saferoom has a dead employee, who is Shadow Bonnie, and Tom (the FNaF 4 kid) is Shadow Freddy. Tom needs to die to become a ghost. Cue Bullies and Fredbear, DEAD. Now he can become Shadow Freddy (or whoever he possesses). Phone Guy most definitely DID mention a second bite (or rather, what happened in FNaF 4). "After learning of an unfortunate incident at the sister location, involving multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures, the company have deemed the suits temporarily unsafe for employees." They knew of the dangers of springlock suits, so what would make the company deem them "temporarily" unsafe? If the suits were so dangerous that springlock failures could happen when they were in animatronic mode. Some may say that this wasn't a springlock failure. However, I say otherwise; Fredbear stopped moving. Completely. His arm was moving up and down slightly and so was his jaw. The Bullies placed Tom inside, which caused a small springlock failure near the arms. Then, Fredbear's jaw suffered a springlock after "tears and moisture" were inside of it. Why do I think it was a springlock failure here? Because Fredbear's jaw stopped moving completely. It didn't go back up. Something wrong had happened here. An error. A springlock error. Multiple and simultaneous springlock failures. Plus, as stated before, he HAS shown us incidents we've never heard of. We didn't know of S A V E T H E M in FNaF 1, along with Take Cake.
In the first mini-game; we are given a room, told we're locked in, and pounding on the door does nothing. We are gamers, however, and without fail, every let's play I watched did the exact same thing. They explored the room before trying the door. The only interaction we have with the mini game is the pile of plushies, which Victim chimes up "These are my Friends".
That may not seem significant to you, but take a look from the developers perspective. Cawthon didn't allow us to miss this crucial bit of dialog. We've all played games before, and we know when we can't move forward, it means there is a task at hand to complete. I might have said this was inconsequential if Victim just curled up after the first time pounding on the door, but he gives us the chance to fail and try a new route. I believe it's four knocks, but it may only be three. The point is, we are meant to see that.
It colors the rest of the game, Animatronics = Kids. But that equality swings both ways; Kids = Animatronics. From this, we can tell that Mangle in the pink room, Identical to Victims, is meant to be family (As she's not a Friend, but the fifth plushie in the house.) and the poster on her wall is a flower, signifying a local symbol. Notice later that Friendbear becomes a flower, in a strange break from internal logic.
The TV shows Fredbear and friends, but misses Spring Bonnie, and gives a solid year. If animatronics are Kids, then it gives us the year the missing kids incident happened, 1983. It doesn't depict Spring Bonnie, as Spring Bonnie is the missing child killer.
If kids are animatronics, the kids on the walk home aren't actually alive. Notice how there are 5 kids (Plush Trap, Alive at Night, Laughing Teen, Toy Girl, Balloon Kid), but one of them is actually the teen from later. 4 kids, and Friendbear, for the second group of 5 kids. Each explicitly call out the former games, (FNAF3, FNAF1, FNAF4, FNAF2) and the fifth hammers in the importance of birthday parties. This gives us a timeline, but backwards, as Victim needs to return back to the store to continue the story.
Also keep in mind the importance of masks in the story line. In happiest day, in the good ending, the kids drop their masks and presumably move on to the afterlife. In FNAF1, there are posters of Freddy trying to take off his mask, The puppet is never shown stuffing the kids into the suits, just putting the heads on them, and you keep yourself safe in FNAF2 by wearing the masks. Finally, in FNAF3, we see puppet's box holding all the scrap parts of the animatronics, but mostly we see the heads of the animatronics.
I don't think the teens are actually teens. I think they are literally big kids. The souls of the first 5 in their suits. It would be an oddly sharp break for Cawthon to just drop the masks importance on the last game, and if the 4 core animatronics lifted Victim to the stage, it would give Freddy Fazbear Pizza more then enough reason to keep them from walking about during the day.
I am very confident that the game takes place shortly after FNAF2 (Hence phone guy looking for the original owners of Fredbear's), and the toy animatronics were scrapped due to Mangle killing a guard during working hours. But, you are free to believe as you wish. I can't play arbiter of FNAF lore any more then anyone else.
-The Fredy gang are not beside Fredbear, and SpringBonnie is not on the TV. Indicating that the withereds are in FNaF 2's place, and they brought SpringBonnie back to keep it fresh and entertaining, and even bring back an origin.
-Pointing out dfferences between The Bite of '87 does not directly give any proof that it's in 1983.
The best I've come to think, is that the child is exaggerating his own death out of terror. Hence, the call makes it sound more terrible than it actually was.
-The child did not die immediately after he got bit. He lived in a hospital for several days.
-The Bite of '83 is more of a disappointment than earlier versions of The Dream Theory. Scott led all this hype with the 8s and 7s, just to be thrown with some other bite? We never see The Btie of '87? What a cheat!
-It's been basically proven that the GOGOGO children have already been killed as of Five Nights 4, which means that it's possible that if it was 1983, then they wouldn't have been dead yet.