State of the game 2025

[Bot der Baumeister]

After almost 10 years of Scrap Mechanic, the obvious conclusion is that its a scam.
SteamDB shows that the playerbase is LOWER than on the innitial release in 2016 (with around 1000 daily players)
Developers, or PR or whoever idc dont talk straight facts, they hide behind fancy CGI renderings of things we will never ever see.
Idk if its a KSP2 type situation where the money-givers closed the whole thing down, but at this point whoever owns the IP scrap mechanic and still makes money with it on steam is commiting serious fraud. Objectively.
Really sad, because i used to spend countless hours in it, almost a decade ago.
But at this point, i've reached the really low limits of the engine way too often. Even after the new "Physics update".
Its too exhausting and unrewarding to keep playing, unless something majorly changes i will never touch it again.
(not even really gonna go into the borderline unplayably boring survival mode, that has no respect for the players time whatsoever. I still played 100% through what it has to "offer" up until now and regret every single secont i've spent in it very dearly.)

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

After almost 10 years of Scrap Mechanic, the obvious conclusion is that its a scam.
SteamDB shows that the playerbase is LOWER than on the innitial release in 2016 (with around 1000 daily players)
Developers, or PR or whoever idc dont talk straight facts, they hide behind fancy CGI renderings of things we will never ever see.
Idk if its a KSP2 type situation where the money-givers closed the whole thing down, but at this point whoever owns the IP scrap mechanic and still makes money with it on steam is commiting serious fraud. Objectively.
Really sad, because i used to spend countless hours in it, almost a decade ago.
But at this point, i've reached the really low limits of the engine way too often. Even after the new Physics update.
Its too exhausting to keep playing, unless something majorly changes i will never touch it again.

Please go read the Early Access Statements. You agree to those when you buy the game. No fraud here. Most games have lower player base after initial release. So that is nothing.

[Bot der Baumeister]

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

After almost 10 years of Scrap Mechanic, the obvious conclusion is that its a scam.
SteamDB shows that the playerbase is LOWER than on the innitial release in 2016 (with around 1000 daily players)
Developers, or PR or whoever idc dont talk straight facts, they hide behind fancy CGI renderings of things we will never ever see.
Idk if its a KSP2 type situation where the money-givers closed the whole thing down, but at this point whoever owns the IP scrap mechanic and still makes money with it on steam is commiting serious fraud. Objectively.
Really sad, because i used to spend countless hours in it, almost a decade ago.
But at this point, i've reached the really low limits of the engine way too often. Even after the new Physics update.
Its too exhausting to keep playing, unless something majorly changes i will never touch it again.

Please go read the Early Access Statements. You agree to those when you buy the game. No fraud here. Most games have lower player base after initial release. So that is nothing.

If you would have read the Early Access Statement, you might notice that it hasn't been updated in more than 5 years.
While indirectly lying, by saying that they "frequently" communicate with the community on social media. Which is actually a blatant lie.

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Please go read the Early Access Statements. You agree to those when you buy the game. No fraud here. Most games have lower player base after initial release. So that is nothing.

If you would have read the Early Access Statement, you might notice that it hasn't been updated in more than 5 years.
While indirectly lying, by saying that they "frequently" communicate with the community on social media. Which is actually a blatant lie.

You missed the point where if you are not interested in this game as is, do not buy. Also it states some devs may not finish the game.

[Bot der Baumeister]

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

If you would have read the Early Access Statement, you might notice that it hasn't been updated in more than 5 years.
While indirectly lying, by saying that they "frequently" communicate with the community on social media. Which is actually a blatant lie.

You missed the point where if you are not interested in this game as is, do not buy. Also it states some devs may not finish the game.

That disclaimer only got added after the devs abandoned the game.
They only released the Physics and Wedges update around the time when other devs started getting warnings by Steam. (And i dont mean the Early access disclaimer, i know this was there since launch. I'm talking about the disclaimer that the developer may abandone the game randomly at any stage)
At least someone in the chain has no interest in getting the game done, either the devs, the company or the publisher.
And i know that its not just about "getting the game done", i know its a complicated process. But they deliberately don't talk about anything, not because they got some crazy stuff in the pipeline, but because they know if the big uncertainty about this big update goes away, there is no incentive to stay.
After every update up until, and after the Survival update the Devs always said that the current version isn't quiet there yet and that "a biig update is gonna fix all this and add 200 terrabytes of content", when in reality nothing of substance ever really came.

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

You missed the point where if you are not interested in this game as is, do not buy. Also it states some devs may not finish the game.

That disclaimer only got added after the devs abandoned the game.
They only released the Physics and Wedges update around the time when other devs started getting warnings by Steam. (And i dont mean the Early access disclaimer, i know this was there since launch. I'm talking about the disclaimer that the developer may abandone the game randomly at any stage)
At least someone in the chain has no interest in getting the game done, either the devs, the company or the publisher.

This is a standard part of the Early Access TOS. LOL. You are trying to make a case of nothing. Also the only thing that matters is what you agreed to at the POS.

[Bot der Baumeister]

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

That disclaimer only got added after the devs abandoned the game.
They only released the Physics and Wedges update around the time when other devs started getting warnings by Steam. (And i dont mean the Early access disclaimer, i know this was there since launch. I'm talking about the disclaimer that the developer may abandone the game randomly at any stage)
At least someone in the chain has no interest in getting the game done, either the devs, the company or the publisher.

This is a standard part of the Early Access TOS. LOL. You are trying to make a case of nothing.

So intentionally releasing empty updates to circumnavigate getting a warning by steam is standard business practice of an early access developer?
Nah, whoever does this does it intentionally. Either abandone the IP, officially state that development is on hold until someone else takes it upon them or continue.
They are Ghosting the whole community. Objective fraud. Maybe not on a legal level, but at a moral level quiet certainly.

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

This is a standard part of the Early Access TOS. LOL. You are trying to make a case of nothing.

So intentionally releasing empty updates to circumnavigate getting a warning by steam is standard business practice of an early access developer?
Nah, whoever does this does it intentionally. Either abandone the IP, officially state that development is on hold until someone else takes it upon them or continue.
They are Ghosting the whole community. Objective fraud. Maybe not on a legal level, but at a moral level quiet certainly.

In business there are no morals. Only laws. Laws are not open to interpretation. Like feelings are. Sorry. What are these warnings you are talking about?? Any proof of any of that??

[Bot der Baumeister]

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

So intentionally releasing empty updates to circumnavigate getting a warning by steam is standard business practice of an early access developer?
Nah, whoever does this does it intentionally. Either abandone the IP, officially state that development is on hold until someone else takes it upon them or continue.
They are Ghosting the whole community. Objective fraud. Maybe not on a legal level, but at a moral level quiet certainly.

In business there are no morals. Only laws. Laws are not open to interpretation. Like feelings are. Sorry.

Couldn't care less. I can still recognize that they are breaking those rules, even if not of legal severity and acknowledge that someone in that group of responsibles has no interest in continuing the development of the game. Don't need to be a Judge or part of a Jury for that.

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

In business there are no morals. Only laws. Laws are not open to interpretation. Like feelings are. Sorry.

Couldn't care less. I can still recognize that they are breaking those rules, even if not of legal severity and acknowledge that someone in that group of responsibles has no interest in continuing the development of the game. Don't need to be a Judge or part of a Jury for that.

Cheers, have a good evening.

[Bardakani55]

Guys shut your mouths, its either gonna come this year or probably 1, 2, 3, or 4 years later

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by Bardakani55:

Guys shut your mouths, its either gonna come this year or probably 1, 2, 3, or 4 years later

It is called a discussion. You can join in if you are not going to be rude.

[Bot der Baumeister]

Originally posted by Bardakani55:

Guys shut your mouths, its either gonna come this year or probably 1, 2, 3, or 4 years later

people said that 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 years ago

[David 001]

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Originally posted by Bardakani55:

Guys shut your mouths, its either gonna come this year or probably 1, 2, 3, or 4 years later

It is called a discussion. You can join in if you are not going to be rude.

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

Originally posted by Bardakani55:

Guys shut your mouths, its either gonna come this year or probably 1, 2, 3, or 4 years later

people said that 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 years ago

I believe that the original comment is what is know as 'sarcasm'.

Read here for more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

[Phoenix Cat]

Originally posted by David 001:

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

It is called a discussion. You can join in if you are not going to be rude.

Originally posted by Bot der Baumeister:

people said that 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 years ago

I believe that the original comment is what is know as 'sarcasm'.

Read here for more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

Sarcasm or not, it breaks Steam Discussion TOS. Everyone needs to go memorize them.

[David 001]

Originally posted by Phoenix Cat:

Originally posted by David 001:

I believe that the original comment is what is know as 'sarcasm'.

Read here for more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

Sarcasm or not, it breaks Steam Discussion TOS. Everyone needs to go memorize them.

My post or the one I referenced?
Nevermind I realize.