This game shouldn't rely on mods to be good

[Rudi]

I've now spent almost 1200 Hours building exclusively with vanilla parts and now just looking at all the new and old mods it's even more apparent how empty the game is and how little options it gives it's players.

This can be seen with something as little as wheels and engines.
We have 2! Wheels. 1x3 and 3x5 (if you want to count them we also have the barrels and the giant pipe bracer, but all of them work objectively worse.)
With Engines it's the same we have the gas Engine wich just has 0 Torque and the Electric Engine wich has the Torque of 2 dying stars but low speed (wich is fine).

Let's say you want to build a big truck.
You can do that now but it will:
1. look absolutely hideous because of the low variety of Tire Sizes.
2. have no useable power output because it has to either use the gas engine and only moves if it's set to a ridiculously fast speed or the Electric wich will work but make it undriveable in Offroad scenarios as it has either an on or off status giving you no "neutral" or engine braking as gas engines have.

MODS FIX ALL OF THIS.

How can the devs not take their time and just make 3 or 4 new Wheels (3x7, 3x9 maybe 2x4 wich exists in some mods) or a new gas engine that's maybe 6x3x2 blocks big, uses more fuel but has more torque than the gas engine.

I have used mods before when they first came out but i want to be sure my creations will still work after any update to the mods or game.

I will not start using mods because of multiplayer compatability issues and unreliable mod support with future updates but it's jaw dropping how limitng the core game really is.

[Phoenix Cat]

I build all my vehicles with BDA's (Bearing Driven Axles) No fuel needed. The are silent and go as fast or fast than the others and can pull more torque. 10 bearings 5 on each side is almost to much to handle if you don't balance correctly. You can place multiple tires as this helps with grip and from the axle flexing. Can even add shocks. Might try it. I only use engines for the drills themselves and saws. Can even use the bearings in some cases. I get what you say though. There are limited choices in drives and tires.

[David 001]

The electric engine is totally fast, what are you saying!? At max speed it's faster then a gas engine (in most of my tests). That thing can reach 300km/h EASILY!
The gas engine has a fixed speed and a variable POWER. Read the description, it explains this.

So with a gas engine, it will always try to go to max speed, but usually weight prevents it. So you would then bump up the POWER to compensate.
With an electric engine it will (almost) always have enough power to move whatever you build, but it will move it at whatever speed you set it to. The electric engine is so powerful that I've had gantry cranes with maxed out elec engines moving as fast as gas engine sports cars.

[Voriki]

Originally posted by Rudi:

How can the devs not take their time and just make 3 or 4 new Wheels (3x7, 3x9 maybe 2x4 wich exists in some mods)

This definitely, as this should be the easiest thing to do. They did add a handful of new parts in the last update, they could have added that easily without needing to change any code.

[David 001]

Originally posted by Voriki:

Originally posted by Rudi:

How can the devs not take their time and just make 3 or 4 new Wheels (3x7, 3x9 maybe 2x4 wich exists in some mods)

This definitely, as this should be the easiest thing to do. They did add a handful of new parts in the last update, they could have added that easily without needing to change any code.

I remember them saying that they were on the table to be added 'soon'. Sure is a long 'soon', but what else is new?

[Durf]

Originally posted by Voriki:

Originally posted by Rudi:

How can the devs not take their time and just make 3 or 4 new Wheels (3x7, 3x9 maybe 2x4 wich exists in some mods)

This definitely, as this should be the easiest thing to do. They did add a handful of new parts in the last update, they could have added that easily without needing to change any code.

actually I would instead argue for the community

a lot of bs goes on in this community, and genuine talented mod makers are pushed AWAY from the game

if the toxicity of the community towards mod makers was changed, then more mod makers would be playing this game

Literally, there is another timeline where this game has thousands of wheels of all different types and styles and sizes
and that can be done very easily, even if each mod maker only does 2 wheels, it just means you need thousands of mod makers

but part of what kills this game is the negative feedback loop:
toxic community
mod makers make less
community gets angrier
mod makers leave
community gets angier
mod are reuploaded and stolen
mod makers say no to SM forever


in all seriousness
axolot's best option right now is to ban the existing community and try again from zero
or become actual game developers and develop their game

[David 001]

Durf, you deleted all your mods and haven't improved them or fixed them for 4 years, so you are worse than axolot, who might not add anything new but at least doesn't brick all of our games.
For someone who hates this community, you spend too much time fighting it.

[Durf]

Originally posted by David 001:

Durf, you deleted all your mods and haven't improved them or fixed them for 4 years, so you are worse than axolot, who might not add anything new but at least doesn't brick all of our games.
For someone who hates this community, you spend too much time fighting it.

you're such a hater
this is what I was talking about

[David 001]

Originally posted by Durf:

Originally posted by David 001:

Durf, you deleted all your mods and haven't improved them or fixed them for 4 years, so you are worse than axolot, who might not add anything new but at least doesn't brick all of our games.
For someone who hates this community, you spend too much time fighting it.

you're such a hater
this is what I was talking about

Durf, you are the hater here. You constantly harass and attack people and spam nonsense in threads.
You need to stop commenting on every discussion in existence and go back to doing something productive, as opposed to just screaming on the internet.