Dedicated Survival servers?

[Johnny Wolf]

I really hope we can have dedicated servers. I'm not a huge fan of session based multiplayer as we can only play that save file when that person wants to.

[Askey]

You mean the host, choose someone who is active to do it. I doubt that we will get dedicated servers though.

[Johnny Wolf]

I have never played a survival crafting game without dedicated servers. It doesn't make sense to not have them. It's something that is a requirement for a game like this imo. I'm not saying I want pvp. I just want to be able to hop in and out of a persistent world whenever I want to so all my friends can play even if we aren't all online. Minecraft has dedicated servers for a reason. I don't want to be forced to play my own game session just because someone else isn't online. It would be fine in a game that wasn't a base building and crafting game. I just have no desire to play multiple save files just because work shifts or days off differ.

[Arkay]

I agree with your comments on a game like this needing servers. But there has never been anything said by Axolot with regards to having them. Their silence is... telling.

[BroHawk]

Originally posted by Johnny Wolf:

I have never played a survival crafting game without dedicated servers. It doesn't make sense to not have them. It's something that is a requirement for a game like this imo. I'm not saying I want pvp. I just want to be able to hop in and out of a persistent world whenever I want to so all my friends can play even if we aren't all online. Minecraft has dedicated servers for a reason. I don't want to be forced to play my own game session just because someone else isn't online. It would be fine in a game that wasn't a base building and crafting game. I just have no desire to play multiple save files just because work shifts or days off differ.

The issue with dedicated servers is they require maintanance. Minecraft has dedicated servers yes but you have to pay a monthly charge to keep it running. Ark has the official servers but thats the ones THEY have running, and why do ya think they are doing season passes and adding more and more paid DLC to a $60 game? Point is, Dedicated servers probably require a lot more than what ya may think

[EPHiiOS]

I mean you can just run your own server. I used to run a dedicated MC server off one of the rackbox in my house, it doesnt need a huge amount of resources if its just for some friends. the only solution at the moment would be the following:

1: Get a office pc from a liquidator or recycler or online (there are a large amount now due to the windows 7 EOL that companies waited until last minute to complete. My site got rid of close to 800 pcs, out of which at least 100 or so were i7 machines with 8gb of ram and upgradable)

2: get a second copy of SM. have your friends chip in. its only 20 bucks. 100 bucks for the pc (iv found em for as low as 50). got 3 friends? 40 bucks each, 6? thats only 20. if you can find a machine for free( yes its possible, i have even found servers grade boxes and switches for free if you look hard enough) that means you would only be splitting the 20 for the game

3: setup new pc, install some remote management software on it, setup world backup( can be done through a simple batch file or freeware), install steam with a seperate account and install SM

4: run it and set the gfx settings as low as possible. like 640x480 potato settings. get the character somewhere real out of the way (like the crash site can work or the pods) sleep in the bed so u keep spawning there, and let that character die infinitely. make yourself friends with that account and set it to friends only. join and profit with your very janky dediserver.

iv had to do this before for other games that dont have a dedicated option. at least this way you wont have to do port fowarding or a dns reroute or anything. and since its set to friends only you should be good on the troll side of things, unless your friends are trolls which is why you have world backup.

[Atomizer]

ephiios pretty much covered it, giving us dedicated servers just lets us host it from our own PC, or we can run it on a separate computer, or pay for hosting.

It is just all around more flexible to meet everyones needs.

[EVERYTHING2067]

There is no dedicated server for Scrap Mechanic cuz people who downloaded cracked versions could join. You can only join a friend on Steam if you have bought it and cracked versions cannot join friends on Steam.

[Atomizer]

Originally posted by Everything2067:

There is no dedicated server for Scrap Mechanic cuz people who downloaded cracked versions could join. You can only join a friend on Steam if you have bought it and cracked versions cannot join friends on Steam.

There is actually tools within Steamworks to verify accounts, all they would need to do is verify an account for anyone connecting to the server, and if it isn't valid, boot them, no amount of cracking the client can prevent the server from booting you.

[【Mr. Felföldi】]

If my friend wants to play on my save file when i don't have time, i usually send him my save file on discord

[EPHiiOS]

if you set up an auto upload system using something like mega or gdrive, you can have both your clients on the same save. just download the latest updated save on the cloud drive (or your own personal SFTP service) and slap it into the save file (set a shortcut on your desktop or task bar to the save folder to make it easier). Iv been doing that with a couple friends since we all play at different times. the few times we coop at the same time, we all make sure to download the latest save and get online.

[Tiny Desk Engineer]

Dedicated servers would be a nice feature but we most likely won't get anything like that soon.

[🗿 zaginiony 🗿]

Originally posted by Everything2067:

There is no dedicated server for Scrap Mechanic cuz people who downloaded cracked versions could join. You can only join a friend on Steam if you have bought it and cracked versions cannot join friends on Steam.

Steam authentication for dedicated servers. Even Rust Dedicated Servers use it.

[DjArcas]

Originally posted by Everything2067:

There is no dedicated server for Scrap Mechanic cuz people who downloaded cracked versions could join. You can only join a friend on Steam if you have bought it and cracked versions cannot join friends on Steam.

That's just not true.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/api/ISteamUser#GetAuthSessionTicket

[AlexTECPlayz]

Originally posted by DjArcas:

Originally posted by Everything2067:

There is no dedicated server for Scrap Mechanic cuz people who downloaded cracked versions could join. You can only join a friend on Steam if you have bought it and cracked versions cannot join friends on Steam.

That's just not true.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/api/ISteamUser#GetAuthSessionTicket

What's this for? SteamUserGetAuthSessionTicket still checks for a steamid and an appid to verify the ownership of the software. It's not related to what Everything2067 said.

[Yetisteven]

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The issue with dedicated servers is they require maintanance. Minecraft has dedicated servers yes but you have to pay a monthly charge to keep it running. Ark has the official servers but thats the ones THEY have running, and why do ya think they are doing season passes and adding more and more paid DLC to a $60 game? Point is, Dedicated servers probably require a lot more than what ya may think [/quote]

Wrong. Dedicated servers only require a monthly charge to keep it running if you are incompetent or incapable of running your own servers. I have an extra PC here capable of running the Dedicated server for free. I do it with Ark, don't Starve, 7 Days to die, Valheim, etc. At No cost. $0.