Fuel is gold - Solutions

[Bjorn Ironside]

Fuel is starting to be the most valuable item in the game because of some problems.

Is the fuel out of balance? My vehicle is consuming a lot of fuel, even with an extra tank with several slots of 20 gallons each. Would have a solution to add more fuel by creating extra tanks? I added 2 tanks, but only 1 works. The second tank is a reserve.

See the photo of my vehicle: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2093343841

How does an engine consume a lot of fuel? Is it the power or the weight of the vehicle? Or is it both?

[Bjorn Ironside]

I did some research and saw some players suggesting using a lighter vehicle. Then I will make a modification to my truck replacing the iron body with a wooden truck body, and calculate the time it takes to empty 1 gallon of fuel.

Who has other solutions, please post here.

[JohnDeW]

great idea, i wish we had more data on this

[Orbnotacus]

That thing is pretty huge man. I understand why you built the big truck with the trailer and everything, but survival will not reward you for your creativity.

I built a heavy duty mining car and we've put 14 bundles of crops on it, hanging off in every direction. Worked like a champ. But ATE through gas. Way too heavy, and it gets worse if you're going up hill.

Everything has weight. Everything has friction. Every piece you add increases one or both, making your engines less efficient and have less torque.

Start with building a skeleton frame. Make the bare minimum frame that will fit everything the car needs to function. Seats, engine, controller, shocks, etc.

Making the bottom most part if the frame heavy and the rest of it super light will help keep the car heavy enough to get good traction, but light enough to be fast and efficient.

4 wheel drive makes a huge difference. Also, making your wheels dual wheels like that... makes your car way slower than you would think. I did the same thing. Increased stability ten fold, but was so much slower.


Again I'll say, design your car for the job and the physics of this world. Not making pretty things.

[AllOutWar76]

Excellent design, truck looks great. Unfortunately, that is your problem. Like others said you want to make your vehicle light to conserve fuel. In addition, you should keep your engine on the lowest possible setting that still gives good speed.

Last, to haul items, you should make a hitch with a trailer on the back. When you aren't hauling, you detach the trailer saving on gas. All you need is the weld tool to reattach. Using a trailer makes driving with heavier loads easier to manage as the weight is being pulled rather than being on the vehicle.

[Bjorn Ironside]

Originally posted by Orbnotacus:

That thing is pretty huge man. I understand why you built the big truck with the trailer and everything, but survival will not reward you for your creativity.

I built a heavy duty mining car and we've put 14 bundles of crops on it, hanging off in every direction. Worked like a champ. But ATE through gas. Way too heavy, and it gets worse if you're going up hill.

Everything has weight. Everything has friction. Every piece you add increases one or both, making your engines less efficient and have less torque.

Start with building a skeleton frame. Make the bare minimum frame that will fit everything the car needs to function. Seats, engine, controller, shocks, etc.

Making the bottom most part if the frame heavy and the rest of it super light will help keep the car heavy enough to get good traction, but light enough to be fast and efficient.

4 wheel drive makes a huge difference. Also, making your wheels dual wheels like that... makes your car way slower than you would think. I did the same thing. Increased stability ten fold, but was so much slower.


Again I'll say, design your car for the job and the physics of this world. Not making pretty things.

But the fun of Scrap Mechanic is to create amazing things. I do not want going to create simple vehicle just to make survival easier, I want more challenging and realistic things.
I believe devs will add more options to help we creators of heavy machines. LOL

[Bjorn Ironside]

Originally posted by AllOutWar76:

Last, to haul items, you should make a hitch with a trailer on the back. When you aren't hauling, you detach the trailer saving on gas. All you need is the weld tool to reattach. Using a trailer makes driving with heavier loads easier to manage as the weight is being pulled rather than being on the vehicle.

I hadn't thought of that. I'll do the test.

[Zahkriin]

Well you can cheese it with piston engines.. just search for it on YT

Than basicly what the other suggested build your vehicels as small/light as you can.
I'm currently testing how diffrent settings behave... having all tires linked to a motor vs having some wich just drag etc.
basicly gas over distance with speed X

If you go for ressource farming and you have to go over greater distances i always suggest a trailer system.

[Zaelus]

Also a lot of people have been reporting that when you fully upgrade the engines they become much more efficient. None of you guys mentioned what level of engine your tests were with.

[Bjorn Ironside]

Originally posted by ID Zahkriin:

If you go for ressource farming and you have to go over greater distances i always suggest a trailer system.

Unfortunately towing for me will be just like this:
https://images.tcdn.com.br/img/img_prod/697730/lona_para_caminhao_carreta_3_eixos_14x4_metros_tipo_vinilona_1147483719_2_20191206154206.jpg

LOL

[Bjorn Ironside]

Originally posted by Zaelus:

Also a lot of people have been reporting that when you fully upgrade the engines they become much more efficient. None of you guys mentioned what level of engine your tests were with.

Everything up to date.

[Bjorn Ironside]

Piston Engine is it efficient? Does it support weight?

[Zahkriin]

Originally posted by Igor:

Piston Engine is it efficient? Does it support weight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWEKiqH5_tM
well it's as efficent as it can get.. but still really expensive to build.. and needs rather many ressources to get in a usable state

[Bjorn Ironside]

Originally posted by ID Zahkriin:

Originally posted by Igor:

Piston Engine is it efficient? Does it support weight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWEKiqH5_tM
well it's as efficent as it can get.. but still really expensive to build.. and needs rather many ressources to get in a usable state

I saw a comment saying that the piston does not support much weight. I will create an ordinary car with it, perhaps it will be efficient for simpler missions.

I hope my new car doesn't have the ending that this youtuber had when creating a boat:
https://youtu.be/T6Fk4ie7JYs?t=541

in 9:00 LOL

[Zahkriin]

Originally posted by Igor:

Originally posted by ID Zahkriin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWEKiqH5_tM
well it's as efficent as it can get.. but still really expensive to build.. and needs rather many ressources to get in a usable state

I saw a comment saying that the piston does not support much weight. I will create an ordinary car with it, perhaps it will be efficient for simpler missions.

I hope my new car doesn't have the ending that this youtuber had when creating a boat:
https://youtu.be/T6Fk4ie7JYs?t=541

in 9:00 LOL

well it solves the gas issue.. not sure how effecient a electric engine would be... havent build one yet.

another wierds thing you could try.. wich has it's limitations is a walker.

[Lavins]

Try multiple level 5 engines to reduce the load off of just the one. But as other have mentioned, downgrade your building blocks and just paint over it.

I can run two full resource collectors halfway across the map in just 2 gallons of fuel. Wooden frame, a single level 5 engine.