Either make a copyright claim at Paradox or ask for a GameDev Job there

[Kaesemuffin]

Hi solzerogame,

I don't know if u r checking forums now and then, but seriously Paradox made a copy cat out of your game. Actual gameplay from Gamescom 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjXA8QMxRlI

Yes I read about your struggle with your game lately - and I am not posting to argue with that.

But what I don't like is that the Indie Dev Scene is getting more and more abused due to mainstream reasons. And you should make some move. I loved your idea and discovered your game over at itch.io way before you released it on steam.

I don't want to start a "GNU" or any other licencing discussion either - I just want to rattle your little comfort-zone-cage :)
At least ask them to hire you as an "Mars Survival Advisor" or Community Manager :p

What do you think?
Regards,

Kaesemuffin

[Some1xx]

You're suggesting one person to take on a major company? it's just not gonna happen, too expensive and it'll never get anywhere.
There's nothing wrong that's been done, they've got similar concepts but that's about it, there's plenty of game play/mechanic differences. Not to mention that pretty much everything has been done before across other games. Most games are inspired one way or another from others, it's how games evolve.
Surviving Mars isn't a copy cat of Sol 0..

[Kaesemuffin]

Hez Some1xx,

please take my comment it with a grain of salt >D
I am not suggesting a lawsuit... have u read the rest of my comment?

On the other hand :D show me one game that uses the same ideas as Sol[0].
And don't come up with "every note has been played" music is all done there is nothing new ... :D

I love that arguement :)

Some1xx I rly wanted him to wake up and get something out of it - maybe there is a oppurtunity for him to get a job there. That's it. Nothing more - no harm done.

Cya :)

[Saxon]

Where is the abuse? Which copyright was violated? Sol 0 and Surviving Mars happen to follow the same theme. Nothing more. Neither game is the first of it's kind and no one can claim ownership over the general concept of a space colony simulator.

[Kaesemuffin]

Hi Jurjen :)

what did u mistunderstood :D
it's just an idea for solzero to join that team and get a cool job :)
Maybe together they can make Surviving Mars a better game that it already is.

[Saxon]

That's not what you said in your post.

Originally posted by Kaesemuffin:

'make a copyright claim at Paradox'

Originally posted by Kaesemuffin:

'Paradox made a copy cat out of your game.

Originally posted by Kaesemuffin:

the Indie Dev Scene is getting more and more abused

THIS is what you said. What is there to misunderstand?

[Kaesemuffin]

Hi Jurjen,

maybe I should put on irony tags on next time. Please learn to phrase in full context and not just pick up phrases that you feel right to support your claims. Of that we already have enough from in fake news :)

What is your goal? "THIS" is clearly not what I said. Please also read my last passage in my original post.

Don't ge me wrong - I just wanted to rattle solzero's cage.
Put on his shoes! What would you do in his place?

Also whats up with u two why so aggro, did I hurt ur feelings about the new game? I don't get it :D And what the hell happened to the netiquette in posting. It's like you both are rly exited about my post that you forget that my intentions were meant only good for the developer of Sol0 ;)

Regs,

Kaese

[Some1xx]

He's not just picking out parts of what you said.. You directly said they should make a copywrite claim several times including putting it in the title.
He's quoted you because you claimed you didn't suggest it and that he's missunderstanding you when there's no misunderstanding.

I'm not aggro/hurt, it's just a really stupid idea to think they should make a copywrite claim over litterally nothing. There's no copying of any kind, simple as that.

[Saxon]

Some1xx hit the nail on the head. I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that anyone but yourself is emotional in this conversation. We simply called you out on your own words while you try to draw attention away from them. Until you retract them they will remain here, in the title no less.

This copyright claim would get laughed of the court. But I think the dev of this game is smart enough to know that. I know you are going to come back and remind me that you said other things as well. Great! I'm sure the dev will appreciate your well wishes more so than your legal advice. But that still doesn't excuse your harsh and unfounded accusations of a studio that didn't do anything wrong.

[Kaesemuffin]

Allright let's necroing some more.
What do you think - what should he do?
I ask both of you.

[Some1xx]

Necroing.... so you're now trying to imply we're bringing up old posts?
We're replying to you on the posts that you've made yesterday and today.. the original post isn't even a month old either.

WTF is wrong with you?
You suggested something really stupid, we pointed that out so you start telling us we misunderstand.
We quoted exactly what you said and you accuse us of picking out to back ourselves up
Soon as we explain that you go on to "necroing" which is laughable, even if old posts were being brought up it has nothing to do with anything that's been said.


I don't think anything about it, why should the dev do anything?
There is NOTHING wrong with Surviving Mars therefore there's NOTHING that he can or should do about it.
As for working for them...
"Mars Survival Advisor" - What in heck even is that? what Marse survival knowledge is he going to advise them with?
"Community Manager" - He's a flipping developer, he does programming, designing and such, just because he's got a Mars themed game that doesn't give him any skills for managing a community, by the sounds of it he's not even got the time to deal with his own games community.

[Saxon]

*facepalm* Yes we are such thread necromancers for continuing a discussion with you a day later.

Once again Some1xx laid out the facts and I have very little to add. I'm sure your advice to work for Paradox comes from a good place even if I don't think it makes sense. But that isn't what I had an issue with when reading your post.

[danny2q]

Surviving mars has been in development for months now, they have simply taken light inspiration from sol 0 but even saying that is a stretch. Look at a game like Planetbase, are you going o say copyright them because they are a space building game or even Osiris New dawn. Your a hipacrite as that and sol 0 have about as many similarities and sol 0 and survivin mars and you own osiris new dawn. Even iif he had a whole team of the best lawyers there is simply no way that he can claim the idea of a mars or for that mater any planet space building/ survival tycoon game. In the game stated above Planetbase came out a year before Sol 0 and the similarities between them are clear and even they couldnt sue if they tried. Stop wasteing people time with your petty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attitude and educate yourself on how the real world works, no one hear or anywhere wants to hear your complaing, people who pull the "sue them" card need to at least learn how law works. Accept that the sol 0 community is dieing and Surviving mars may very well replace it. Move on.

[shadow]

Sol 0 And surviving mars are basicaly the same concept.
*I mean they are the same game*
*I mean Paradox has copyed the game*
*I mean It would be funny if someone would sew them*