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As for the forlorn ruins though just go back to the chasm where Kuro was, head all the way to the bottom, go right until you find a lever, that level should open up a path down by the thorns and to the left which leads to the temple.
Good luck with the temple! It has a pretty awesome gimmick once you understand how it works.
Thanks man! i just saw the thorn part, what a tricky place, like i would have never thought of going back to the left, i hope there arent more of these tricky places in the game.